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Who is the CF, me or the beauty salon?

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superdelooper · 13/08/2024 07:41

Last week my DM was talking about getting powder ombre brows done. My friend had them done, and they are lovely, so asked friend for the salon details so I could contact them for DM.
I reached out to the salon via WhatsApp on Friday (there is no online booking or website) and someone responded immediately with details and an appointment time for this week (Thursday).
All good, fairly reasonable pricing and DM was happy to go ahead and get me to book. There was a £50 booking fee, which I paid, with the balance to be paid at the appointment.
Within an hour of making the booking DM realised she had forgotten about the blood thinners she takes and after a bit of google searching, we realised she needed at least a week off the thinners before she could safely have her eyebrows done. I reached out to the salon again and they assured me she would be fine to continue with the booking, even while still taking the thinners. DM is in her 70's and we didn't want to risk it and requested to cancel the booking. Salon again said it would be fine (these messages have since been deleted by salon) but I insisted we cancelled and apologised. Fine, booking cancelled. I then asked for the booking fee to be refunded. Salon refused stating this booking fee was 'non refundable'.
When we made the initial booking she sent a message with bank details and a note about things to do/not do prior to the appointment. It also stated there was a £50 'booking fee', no mention of this being non refundable.
Who is in the wrong here? We tried asking politely for the fee to be refunded as it seems like a lot to be charged for an appointment we booked and cancelled within an hour, DM would have been happy to pay a small admin fee but £50 is a quarter of what the eyebrows would have cost to have done.

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Rosscameasdoody · 13/08/2024 15:09

dbeuowlxb173939 · 13/08/2024 10:45

Yeah but the salon could argue she should have researched before booking and that they're willing to reschedule rather than cancel

Doesn’t absolve them of their responsibility to do a pre treatment consultation to check there are no health issues which would preclude the client. And the fact that they deleted the WhatsApp messages is concerning. Seems to suggest they know they’re in the wrong, so I’d just threaten them with small claims court.

Sorenlorrenson · 13/08/2024 14:16

Sorenlorrenson · 13/08/2024 14:11

No it doesn't 😂

Oh sorry , you probably work in middle management somewhere in 2015...so yeah it does mean that.

Sorenlorrenson · 13/08/2024 14:11

Greenbananasoup · 13/08/2024 12:55

Reaching out just means contacting though

No it doesn't 😂

BettyBardMacDonald · 13/08/2024 13:30

NeedSomeAnswersPlease · 13/08/2024 08:09

@MrsGlennBulb because it's an utterly pointless exercise and I'd expect someone with the life experience of a 70 year old to realise that? It's the same as my dad being told he had to come off his blood thinners for varicose vein surgery for looks and he decided not to as it's not worth the risk for a vanity project

Who are you to define "pointless" for others.

Women in their 70s haven't all given up on their appearance.

Ivehearditbothways · 13/08/2024 13:27

Greenbananasoup · 13/08/2024 12:55

Reaching out just means contacting though

No, it doesn’t. The implication of “reaching out” is something more; like after an argument, offering an olive branch, asking for something big etc.

Then corporate speak took over and instead of saying “contact X” people started saying “reach out to X.” It’s ridiculous. You “reach out” over something serious or after a fight. You don’t “reach out” when you’re making an appointment.

She contacted them.

willowtolive · 13/08/2024 13:26

Why are people clutching pearls about £200 on brows ? If that's why she wants to do then so bloody what .

Greenbananasoup · 13/08/2024 12:55

Sorenlorrenson · 13/08/2024 11:38

Because it sounds so over dramatic, she didn't "reach out", she contacted the salon, you know, like any normal person does, not everything is "reaching out " ....its just normal contact. So over the top.

Reaching out just means contacting though

whynotwhatknot · 13/08/2024 12:48

tthey should be asking for medcial history an do a test first-tell them you screen shot their message an will be taking it further

skyfalldown · 13/08/2024 12:39

Some people are being very rude about OP's mother wanted ombre brows. As someone with alopecia and no eyebrow hair to speak of, they're the difference between whether I can set foot outside or not. I wouldn't be giving this place my money though, they sound dodgy - there's no way a tattoo parlour would ever recommend someone on thinners to get a tat

Bollihobs · 13/08/2024 12:37

You lost me at "reached out" and I think you've lost your money as well.

MooonDreamerz · 13/08/2024 12:37

Could you have major moved the appointment to a week later?

I don't think they should have to refund you. That's the point of a deposit. There was another thread recently where a woman cancelled a party and complained the deposit had not been said to be non-refundable but that's what a deposit is?!

I think it would be U to refuse to move it to a later date and keep the deposit but not U to refuse to refund.

diddl · 13/08/2024 12:32

I agree with others that this should have been made clear before the booking fee was taken.

No website with the info, nothing said when Op booked.

That's terrible.

after a bit of google searching, we realised she needed at least a week off the thinners before she could safely have her eyebrows done.

Surely that's only with the Dr's approval though?

RareLemur · 13/08/2024 12:30

I would assume that any deposit is non refundable. Yes it would be nice of them to refund as there was only a short time between you booking and cancelling, but it was your/your DM's mistake.

viques · 13/08/2024 12:27

Please don’t tell her doctor that she is willing to come off her blood thinners for a week to have her eyebrows done. Presumably she is on them because she has issues with her heart, it really isn’t worth risking having a stroke just to have ombré eyebrows, whatever they are.

SunshineAndFizz · 13/08/2024 12:24

That's what booking fees are for - I can't think of an example I've seen where you can get this back when you cancel (whatever the reason).

Sorry but I think it's one of those life lessons.

PS completely understand why she wants them done - I love mine. Age doesn't matter, why would it.

BrownBirdWelcomesWhiteWave · 13/08/2024 12:22

DoIWantTo · 13/08/2024 10:01

@BrownBirdWelcomesWhiteWave I’ve got tattoos yes, one that’s larger than both my eyebrows together cost £90 and still looks clear as day 4 years later. If you want to spend that kind of money on a few ink dots to fill in your eyebrows that’s your choice. It’s still a rip off.

you said "£200 for eyebrows?!? That costs twice as much as getting the same done to my hair"

Do you get your hair tattooed?
Its like saying well I only pay £2.50 for chips, why does it cost £10 for fish?

Madamechoco · 13/08/2024 12:19

ChateauMargaux · 13/08/2024 08:09

When you paid the booking fee, were you advised of the contraindications for the treatment and the fact that the booking fee was non refundable? The cancellation terms should be made clear at the time of making the payment. If you did this over whatsapp and remote payment, without seeing and agreeing the terms, I think you have grounds for a full refund.

Spot on

MumblesParty · 13/08/2024 12:13

Superhansrantowindsor · 13/08/2024 07:57

First post spot on.
But I’m going to be that poster who expresses bemusement that someone would stop pretty vital sounding medicine for a beauty treatment that sounds hideously expensive and pointless.

I agree.
Blood thinning medication isn't given for fun. Whatever she takes it for may well recur if she stops it for a week. This is done for essential things like dental extractions, but it seems excessively risky for a cosmetic procedure.

AutumnLeaves1990 · 13/08/2024 12:07

You're not able to get a refund. That's the whole point. Just move the appointment to a week later when your mum has been off the blood thinners.

Bringbackspring · 13/08/2024 12:03

That's a hefty booking fee! I paid a £5 booking fee to a salon yesterday, and I usually pay £1.50 to my hair salon for a £120 colour and cut. Unfortunately I don't think you'll ever get that back so will just have to chalk it up to experience and not use book with them again.

I really don't want to judge (and I know this will sound judgy) but there's no way I'd come off blood thinners just to get my eyebrows done when there are so many other ways to get them done that don't involve risking your life.

LouH5 · 13/08/2024 12:02

Unfortunately I think you’re in the wrong here, and I definitely don’t think the salon are being CF. It’s annoying for you that the booking fee was so expensive and you’ve now lost it… but surely you realise the whole purpose of a booking fee is exactly this? Why would they refund it? It’s the same as a deposit. Why did you think you were paying it in the first place? It’s like how some restaurants charge a £10pp booking fee/deposit when you book, it’s so that if you cancel last minute or are a no show, then they haven’t lost out, as someone else could’ve had that table. Just like how someone else could’ve had your appointment slot at the salon etc. The reason they take a booking fee/deposit is so they don’t get let down by time wasters. And I know you haven’t just been a no show, you’ve cancelled in advance, but it still stands that that’s the reason these things exist.

Pixie2015 · 13/08/2024 11:55

Superhansrantowindsor · 13/08/2024 07:57

First post spot on.
But I’m going to be that poster who expresses bemusement that someone would stop pretty vital sounding medicine for a beauty treatment that sounds hideously expensive and pointless.

Exactly this!

SloaneStreetVandal · 13/08/2024 11:54

mrpenny · 13/08/2024 11:44

Exctly..what’s that got to do with it? Mumsnet ageism at its finest

My MIL is 72 and is considering it! I'm on my third top up (I've gone every 2 years for a top up, though they've never been in desperate need of topping up tbh).
The place I go to has lots of before and afters of older women - the difference is incredible, some of them look as though they've had a face lift!

Abigaillovesholidays · 13/08/2024 11:51

In terms of cost it is a lot of money but I had a half hour consultation where she went through medical history, did a patch test, talked about what I wanted.
Then when I had them done, I was there for 2 hours as she drew the shape, we looked at shades and then she did the brows -constantly stopping to check.
Then there is the top up appointment- and can go as many times as needed til the shape and colour are correct.
This is a lot of time for a professional to be spending on 1 client, plus insurance costs and equipment etc.
It's lasts for at least a year so personally don't think the cost is extravagant! Plus they look amazing and save me so much time instead of drawing them on every day!

Wexone · 13/08/2024 11:51

planAplanB · 13/08/2024 08:00

The £50 is to stop people messing them around. Surely you can just rebook a different date?

Also, are you seriously paying £200 for eyebrows?!?!???

people have a choice to pay what they want for stuff, My mother in law pays 300e every 6 months for her eyebrows, she has none, she hates that she has to pencil in her eyebrows every day. Until you have none you dont realise how much a difference they do make to your face aswell as her confidence. She is 82 by the way and not one bit high maintenance, but loves the boost getting her eyebrows done after so long of not having any