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To say no to 16year olds flying alone

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Dreamholidaynot · 13/08/2024 07:27

To America!

I have a set of twins that turned 16 last week. Their dad is American but lived in the UK most of his life, returned home to New York about 6 years ago when we divorced.

His birthday is at the end of the month so he would like to give them a fabulous holiday in New York for about 8 days starting next week. He has an amazing itinerary with every day packed which is awesome.

The problem is, he wants them to travel on their own from London to JFK. They've travelled to the US and other places with me, never on their own and I think it's too much for them to do! The whole airport palaver, 13hr flight, immigration, etc They have an visa waiver from when we traveled there last year but it was still a stressful journey. What if something happens in the way? Cancellations, turbulence, 'baddies'? I'm terrified but I don't want to ruin their lives because of my own anxiety.

I know 16year olds can travel on their own. My son's best friend just returned from France with another friend and I hear this is the age they do this on their own. I just can't imagine it. My ex feels they are more than capable and I'm 'restricting their growth'. He traveled a lot from a young age with the army. He also travels at very short notice due to his work but I usually need more time to prepare for things like this.

Am I being unreasonable to say no to this journey. Would you let your own 16yr old travel without a parent or guardian that far away?

Please be kind, I've posted here because I'm desperate for some real opinions but already feeling fragile because my son is already sulking at me and I the ex pressing me. Time is of the essence if they are going.

Thank you

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dottiehens · 13/08/2024 08:28

In two years they may just go without asking you. Better to prepare them and they are twins. Some people that young go by themselves. For their own sake and yours do not stop this amazing trip. You can be at the airport until the plane leaves and them getting there it is not as bad if someone is waiting for them.

Jeregrettetous · 13/08/2024 08:28

Well done OP. Another one joining the unanimous voice - they’ll be absolutely fine. And they really can’t get lost if their Dad is meeting them at the other end. They just need to follow the crowd!

They’ll have an absolute ball - what an amazing way to celebrate their results!

willowtolive · 13/08/2024 08:27

Greytulips · 13/08/2024 08:04

Airport staff will be aware they are young and flying without an adult.

They will look out for them.

Ensure they have battery packs for their phones, money on cards and keep their passports safe.

They can do this if they really want to.

Think how they’ll feel when they’ve achieved this?

I'm not sure if airport staff would bat an eyelid at two 16 year olds travelling. They will obviously help them if necessary though

Createausername1970 · 13/08/2024 08:26

If they want to go and are happy to go together, then yes, let them.

You could take them to the airport and do the initial check-in and bag drop with them and see them to the security gate. If they have flown before they will be familiar with the routine after that.

There will be plenty of people to ask in the airport, and you will be at the end of a phone if they need to check something.

Tell them to go to the gate as soon as one is allocated and wait there, rather than in the main departure area, then they should be fine and not get distracted.

PointsSouth · 13/08/2024 08:25

They've flown before. They know what to do.

The whole system is designed to make it impossible to get wrong as long as you stay conscious. And actually, even that's not too much of a problem.

Let them go.

Dreamholidaynot · 13/08/2024 08:25

PollyPut · 13/08/2024 08:18

@Dreamholidaynot if they're flying from UK then it's more like 8 hour flight. Not 13.

But they'd be getting their GCSE results results Thursday if they were 16 last week. Does your ex know this? Where will they be? in US? Is there any chance they'll miss whatever entry qualifications they need for sixth form/college?

Yes they all know this. Luckily, the 6th form is their usual school and they have an online system. It will be very unlikely that they don't meet the grades required but it will be sorted online.

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perfectstorm · 13/08/2024 08:24

Sorry, but to my mind this is bonkers. One parent takes them to the airport, the other collects the other end. Airports are the most controlled and secure environments most civilians will ever encounter, and there are two of them!

I was flown to Australia as an unaccompanied minor at 11. You got VIP treatment and the air hostesses made an incredible fuss of you, but you were still flying alone. I was fine. At sixteen, I flew to Kenya and Australia alone and it was fine! Lots of kids in boarding schools fly alone, met at the other end, too.

They aren't even going to be alone. There are two of them. Two sixteen year olds - how are they ever going to manage at 18 if they go to university and live completely independently, if they can't even manage to sit on a plane together as a duo at 16? Turbulance - just warn them to keep seatbelts on in the plane unless they need the loo, as the only thing that helps if turbulence is bad is being restrained in the first place, but really severe turbulence is incredibly rare. Immigration is hardly taxing, either!

Not seeing any issue at all with this.

QuitMoaning · 13/08/2024 08:23

My daughter flew alone to Australia when she was 15.
I had flown many times with her before in Europe so she knew all about keeping an eye on the gate, what documents are needed when and everything. Airlines and Airports are very used to it.

You need to let them go or they will not forgive you.

JLM1981 · 13/08/2024 08:18

I would have the same worries as you as a parent now but I went on my first holiday to Spain at 17 for 10 days with a group of friends (no parents) and I wasn't as well travelled as your children. All was great with no drama. Can you help check them in and stay at the airport so you know they boarded and are happy? I would let them go. Sounds great but I understand your reluctance. Good luck OP x

PollyPut · 13/08/2024 08:18

@Dreamholidaynot if they're flying from UK then it's more like 8 hour flight. Not 13.

But they'd be getting their GCSE results results Thursday if they were 16 last week. Does your ex know this? Where will they be? in US? Is there any chance they'll miss whatever entry qualifications they need for sixth form/college?

MaggieFS · 13/08/2024 08:18

Yes, sorry, to use your own words 'you are the one with the problem'.

They will be fine. They are 16 and there are two of them. They have a parent meeting them at either end.

I think the short notice thing is a red herring, and actually I think it's probably better for you that it is short notice rather you having had months to stew over it. I don't think having more time would change your anxiety. And if it wasn't short notice, you'd be finding something else to fixate on. Let them go, and enjoy the break.

MimiSunshine · 13/08/2024 08:18

It seems a bit late to be worrying about this and saying you don’t want them to go if it’s next week. Has it only my just been arranged?

anyway, yes I do think you should let them go. As a PP said get them body / bum bags and instruct them not to take them off even when on board. Put their money and passport in it and then (very worse case scenario) they have to disembark quickly then they have everything they need on them.

walk them through the process and you can always write down the basic steps if you think they’ll forget and technology allows you to pretty much track their every step these days.

yes you have to let them go.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 13/08/2024 08:18

Definitely let them go, they will be fine and it will be great for giving them a bit of independence in a controlled environment.

they could go off travelling completely on their own in 2 years so this would be good preparation

BridgetJonesBigPants · 13/08/2024 08:17

Sounds like you are going to agree, which is the right thing. Your children sound great, they sound like capable, mature teenagers so well done you for bringing them up like that. Everyone gets nervous the first time their most precious people go off into the world but they'll flourish and it will be good for all of you. Enjoy the time they're away, organise nice treats for yourself and try to be proud of your kids and yourself.

leopardski · 13/08/2024 08:17

Absolutely let them go! They’ll have each other and at 16 are plenty old enough to ask for help if they need it at the airport. It’ll be a wonderful experience for them and great to gain that independence and confidence.

Onemorepenny · 13/08/2024 08:17

Yup travelled unaccompanied younger than that (13 & 11) to family abroad by plane!

I would totally let mine go at 16.

Marseillaise · 13/08/2024 08:16

I travelled on my own by plane at 16. It was very straightforward, and if I'd had a sibling there for moral support it would have been even easier. If anything, your twins are even better prepared because they've had the experience of travelling with you when you were stressed, so I suspect they're used to looking out for you as well.

Have you ever sought out counselling for your worries around travel?

Perfect28 · 13/08/2024 08:15

Definitely old enough and Added bonus they have each other. Sounds like a great trip, let them go OP.

Hazeby · 13/08/2024 08:15

For those saying I'm letting my anxiety rule them: I live with anxiety and hate the airport bit of traveling and have a fear of flying but I was determined from their early age to override this for them so we travel frequently, long and short trips. In airplanes, by train, by coach and by sea

Good for you and you know what, now you’re reaping the rewards. Because you have two teenagers who are raring to go and totally unafraid of a trip like this. They don’t have any of your anxieties. Which is what you wanted for them, right?

ViscountDreams · 13/08/2024 08:15

I would hate the thought of one of the dc doing it alone (16 and 14). But I'd let them together as long as familiar with the airports.

My only condition would be stay together at all times. One of you needs to pee? You BOTH pee 😂 And I'd drum in the stay together rule many times!

FinalInstructionstotheAudience · 13/08/2024 08:15

I flew to NZ alone at 12, 14 and 17. Let them go!

Somerandomerontheinternet · 13/08/2024 08:14

To reassure you I grew up in the rurally and caught a plane by myself a similar distance age 12 (before I had caught a bus by myself).

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 13/08/2024 08:14

They are going to have such a wonderful time! They sound like mature sensible girls, this won't be an issue.
When I was 16 my German exchange was cancelled due to low numbers, my friend and I were given permission to take a week off either side of the Easter holidays and travel to Berlin to stay in a youth hostel for a month. We had a cracking time and my German definitely improved. That was in the early 2000s so not a completely different time, but we didn't even have smart phones

YourChicShark · 13/08/2024 08:14

I travelled to the US alone just after I turned 16 to visit family (many years ago). I navigated immigration, customs etc alone and transferred to an onward flight. They'll be fine.

Make sure they have all the contact details for their father (address, phone number etc), a printed copy of their ESTA waiver, and a document showing their return tickets. Prepare them to show it all at the border.

ZiriForGood · 13/08/2024 08:13

Great update!

It's ok to need a moment to get used to an idea like this.

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