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To say no to 16year olds flying alone

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Dreamholidaynot · 13/08/2024 07:27

To America!

I have a set of twins that turned 16 last week. Their dad is American but lived in the UK most of his life, returned home to New York about 6 years ago when we divorced.

His birthday is at the end of the month so he would like to give them a fabulous holiday in New York for about 8 days starting next week. He has an amazing itinerary with every day packed which is awesome.

The problem is, he wants them to travel on their own from London to JFK. They've travelled to the US and other places with me, never on their own and I think it's too much for them to do! The whole airport palaver, 13hr flight, immigration, etc They have an visa waiver from when we traveled there last year but it was still a stressful journey. What if something happens in the way? Cancellations, turbulence, 'baddies'? I'm terrified but I don't want to ruin their lives because of my own anxiety.

I know 16year olds can travel on their own. My son's best friend just returned from France with another friend and I hear this is the age they do this on their own. I just can't imagine it. My ex feels they are more than capable and I'm 'restricting their growth'. He traveled a lot from a young age with the army. He also travels at very short notice due to his work but I usually need more time to prepare for things like this.

Am I being unreasonable to say no to this journey. Would you let your own 16yr old travel without a parent or guardian that far away?

Please be kind, I've posted here because I'm desperate for some real opinions but already feeling fragile because my son is already sulking at me and I the ex pressing me. Time is of the essence if they are going.

Thank you

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TizerorFizz · 24/08/2024 12:02

Absolutely. Read the policy. Ours comes with the bank account and I thinks it’s pretty good. Definitely not basic. The policy might actually say who is covered and when. Ours is different, as you can see, and would have covered the DC visiting a parent.

Vettrianofan · 24/08/2024 11:12

TizerorFizz · 24/08/2024 10:36

Our insurance covers everything. It’s standard cover. I’m somewhat surprised they take the flight element out. It’s holiday cover - it includes a flight. DDs are in 20s now so not on our policy these days, I guess it depends on the policy but not including insurance for the flight sounds odd to me, How are dc meant to travel on the policy then? That really says only with parents if flights are excluded.

That's what I was told over the phone. Which seems utterly daft after consideration...so he now has his own single trip policy. This is why it's so important for people not to assume anything with insurance!

TizerorFizz · 24/08/2024 10:36

Our insurance covers everything. It’s standard cover. I’m somewhat surprised they take the flight element out. It’s holiday cover - it includes a flight. DDs are in 20s now so not on our policy these days, I guess it depends on the policy but not including insurance for the flight sounds odd to me, How are dc meant to travel on the policy then? That really says only with parents if flights are excluded.

Vettrianofan · 24/08/2024 10:18

TizerorFizz · 23/08/2024 12:26

Or add into family annual policy as I said earlier.

We were going to do this but decided against it as he isn't insurance for the duration of the flight, only once he is met at his destination. If I had accompanied him though, he would have been fine.

Vettrianofan · 24/08/2024 10:17

Gogogo12345 · 23/08/2024 12:28

Not all family policies cover minors traveling without main policy holder Mine doesnt

We ended up taking out a single trip policy for DS travelling unaccompanied because if he isn't insured on the plane travelling unaccompanied, then neither would his luggage if something went wrong🤦‍♀️ so decided he'd better have his own policy. Its not expensive so he just paid for it himself.

I had to be named as the policy holder as under 18s cannot do this for obvious reasons.

Gogogo12345 · 23/08/2024 12:28

TizerorFizz · 23/08/2024 12:26

Or add into family annual policy as I said earlier.

Not all family policies cover minors traveling without main policy holder Mine doesnt

TizerorFizz · 23/08/2024 12:26

Or add into family annual policy as I said earlier.

Gogogo12345 · 23/08/2024 12:24

Staysure also. Most do in fact but u need to phone instead of doing online

Vettrianofan · 23/08/2024 12:05

I was looking at MSE site and there was no option for under 18s on that tool 🙈

Doesn't matter anyway, he's now insured on our family policy after querying the cover just to be sure. As you say, very costly if anyone gets unwell in the US!

TizerorFizz · 23/08/2024 11:43

Allianz definitely. Loads do.

Gogogo12345 · 23/08/2024 11:33

Vettrianofan · 23/08/2024 10:14

Are there companies who offer insurance to under 18s?

Yes my son had it Many insurance providers will insure under 18 travelling alone. Would imagine OPs kids would need for medical cover anyway travelling to the US

boredwithfoodprob · 23/08/2024 10:23

I have an almost 16 year old and I would definitely allow this and he would be on his own - no twin! The airport palaver isn't that bad if they are reasonably familiar with it and if it's a direct flight so that's fine too. There's not a lot that could go wrong and it's worth it for an amazing holiday.

BlackeyedSusan · 23/08/2024 10:16

Bloody hell, I'd hate it too. But
Staff are really well trained .
There are two of them.
You take them to the airport and check them in.
Dad collects.
Check list of what to do if....
It's probably more controlled than taking a train in the UK.

Vettrianofan · 23/08/2024 10:14

Gogogo12345 · 23/08/2024 08:54

Irrelevant if they have their own travel insurance rather than being a dependent on adults. My son is a " dependent" on my insurance if he travels with me If travelling along he has his own insurance anyway

Are there companies who offer insurance to under 18s?

Vettrianofan · 23/08/2024 10:12

DS is under 18 (17) and can't get his own travel insurance. He's on our annual travel insurance policy. We did look but it's virtually impossible for over 16s to get their own policy unless others know of companies who do this?

Vettrianofan · 23/08/2024 10:10

My DS had his ESTA visa authorised and ready to travel but accepts he may have to get an interview as he is travelling unaccompanied. We have a signed letter for him to present to BC staff as per advice on the ESTA website.

TizerorFizz · 23/08/2024 09:02

The point is to check if you need separate insurance! Our policy says what I posted. Others may not have annual insurance or insurance that includes dc on certain trips. I could usually get DDs added on our insurance when travelling alone, for extra cost, other than for beyond 30 days. So it’s reasonable advice to check.

As for immigration - if on a uk passport, surely they need an Esta. Visa waiver?

Gogogo12345 · 23/08/2024 08:54

TizerorFizz · 22/08/2024 00:05

Our insurance says this.

Irrelevant if they have their own travel insurance rather than being a dependent on adults. My son is a " dependent" on my insurance if he travels with me If travelling along he has his own insurance anyway

Vettrianofan · 22/08/2024 06:11

TizerorFizz · 22/08/2024 00:05

Our insurance says this.

It does seem to vary from insurance company to insurance company if children 12 to 17 travel unaccompanied on a flight.

TizerorFizz · 22/08/2024 00:05

Our insurance says this.

To say no to 16year olds flying alone
Vettrianofan · 21/08/2024 14:02

notimagain · 21/08/2024 13:03

Just something to bear in mind though, that if they are travelling unaccompanied they won't be insured whilst on the plane without an adult.

?? Never heard of that before but I guess it’s worth checking with the insurance provider.

I only know this because I had to check recently otherwise I wouldn't have even known it was an issue and assumed full cover.
Definitely good idea to check with insurance company OP.

notimagain · 21/08/2024 13:03

Just something to bear in mind though, that if they are travelling unaccompanied they won't be insured whilst on the plane without an adult.

?? Never heard of that before but I guess it’s worth checking with the insurance provider.

Vettrianofan · 21/08/2024 10:40

Just something to bear in mind though, that if they are travelling unaccompanied they won't be insured whilst on the plane without an adult.

I phoned up our insurance company about this recently as my 17yo is flying out to a destination unaccompanied. He is insured once he touches down and meets his partner at his destination though, and for the duration of his stay. On the return leg, he won't be insured whilst returning home on the flight.

Nfb · 20/08/2024 19:45

I flew to the USA at age 13 alone to stay with a family friend. I had travelled to the US many times with my family but I was really shy & quiet as a teen. It massively improved my confidence though & such an experience!
You will drop them this end & him pick up the other. Plus can track their phones either end. It will be fine.

Lm2 · 20/08/2024 16:00

Dreamholidaynot · 13/08/2024 07:27

To America!

I have a set of twins that turned 16 last week. Their dad is American but lived in the UK most of his life, returned home to New York about 6 years ago when we divorced.

His birthday is at the end of the month so he would like to give them a fabulous holiday in New York for about 8 days starting next week. He has an amazing itinerary with every day packed which is awesome.

The problem is, he wants them to travel on their own from London to JFK. They've travelled to the US and other places with me, never on their own and I think it's too much for them to do! The whole airport palaver, 13hr flight, immigration, etc They have an visa waiver from when we traveled there last year but it was still a stressful journey. What if something happens in the way? Cancellations, turbulence, 'baddies'? I'm terrified but I don't want to ruin their lives because of my own anxiety.

I know 16year olds can travel on their own. My son's best friend just returned from France with another friend and I hear this is the age they do this on their own. I just can't imagine it. My ex feels they are more than capable and I'm 'restricting their growth'. He traveled a lot from a young age with the army. He also travels at very short notice due to his work but I usually need more time to prepare for things like this.

Am I being unreasonable to say no to this journey. Would you let your own 16yr old travel without a parent or guardian that far away?

Please be kind, I've posted here because I'm desperate for some real opinions but already feeling fragile because my son is already sulking at me and I the ex pressing me. Time is of the essence if they are going.

Thank you

Have you asked them if they are happy to do the journey alone ? What iv learnt is sometimes they are more capable than we think and if they arnt worried maybe a bit of faith in them doing it alone may not be so bad ? If Tbey don’t feel confident then u know not to . They will be dropped off and collected at the other end so it’s only the flight that they would need to navigate .

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