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To be annoyed DH won't do more to avoid COVID to ensure IVF goes smoothly

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PhillipaN · 12/08/2024 22:00

Just about to start our second round of IVF after taking a break for the summer and I'm terrified that I'm hearing about more and more cases of COVID: sister in law, friend, husband's friend, colleague etc. There's research to say it impacts sperm for 3-6mo and I just can't face delaying IVF and having to wait longer.
Sadly DH loves his social life too much, says it's silly to shield and plans to go to a concert and a football match in the next couple of months.

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Moreofthesamenothanks · 13/08/2024 08:24

You remind him to eat more veg! You sound like his mum. Is this a joke?

Youthinkyoureuniqueyourejustastatistic · 13/08/2024 08:23

PhillipaN · 12/08/2024 22:27

@Whatatodo79 very good point about brushing past... makes me feel kinda better about the large events as he's not exactly interacting for hours with each and every attendee

This is bollocks OP. Respiratory viruses linger in the air inside venues. Not only caught by droplets close by. Worse at music venues or places where people are singing or shouting. It’s spread like smoke - imagine 1 person in the club smoking. You’d smell it soon enough.

Moreofthesamenothanks · 13/08/2024 08:23

PhillipaN · 13/08/2024 08:10

@EricHebbornInItaly it's not like he's against giving things up. He's quit smoking and hasn't had a drink in 5mo. But whereas I do it quietly (I also gave up alcohol) ie I just order the non alcoholic drink without making a song and dance, he will make it out to be this BIG sacrifice he's doing. Or the other day ordered a salami pizza because he fancied it, why not just completely give up cold cuts?? Or he has to be reminded to eat more veg, sighs at it but in the end does eat it...

Give up cold cuts?

How does that affect his sperm?

You sound totally obsessed with getting pregnant. It's very controlling behaviour. Don't ruin a relationship in the process or would a baby be better than a relationship?

Youthinkyoureuniqueyourejustastatistic · 13/08/2024 08:21

LoneHydrangea · 12/08/2024 22:15

Is anyone shielding from Covid? I think you’re being massively unreasonable. If you’re going to get it, you’ll get it.

Unfortunately yes. Lots of
people are still shielding from covid. Because they are still as vulnerable as they were in 2020 - because they still don’t have an immune system. And unlike 2020/21 no one else is taking any precautions to not spread it. It’s horrific for them - because they can’t even go to medical appointments safely anymore.

HowIrresponsible · 13/08/2024 08:18

PhillipaN · 13/08/2024 08:11

@HavingABitOfAMare no the consultant didn't. It's based on known effects of Covid and the fact that more people seem to be getting it

What know effects? Here's an article from the Lancet which is a reputable source which says that the effects are largely unknown and that most return to baseline after infection.

You do sound extremely controlling OP. You can't just ask your husband to shield because you've decided it will affect his sperm.

The Lancet

Mitsky · 13/08/2024 08:18

You sound a little over the top (interrogating his pizza topping choices) but my husband is at gigs as his job and has been at over 100 this year already and hasn’t caught Covid if that helps!

The whole time we were going through fertility issues I was very keen that we didn’t miss out on the other things in life that brought us joy as it was stressful and upsetting enough.

spiegelis · 13/08/2024 08:16

You cannot avoid covid unless you shield. I live a pretty limited live - don't go out, WFH with only the occasional day in a small office... don't have many friends, don't socialise. and I just had it or the 5th time.

And salami pizza, the bastard!

I know from friends that going through IVF is very hard but I think you are taking it too far.

Edingril · 13/08/2024 08:15

PhillipaN · 13/08/2024 08:10

@EricHebbornInItaly it's not like he's against giving things up. He's quit smoking and hasn't had a drink in 5mo. But whereas I do it quietly (I also gave up alcohol) ie I just order the non alcoholic drink without making a song and dance, he will make it out to be this BIG sacrifice he's doing. Or the other day ordered a salami pizza because he fancied it, why not just completely give up cold cuts?? Or he has to be reminded to eat more veg, sighs at it but in the end does eat it...

What on earth has pizza got to do with it?

This all sounds insane I would no way put up with someone trying to control me like that it sounds terrible

Boopbeepbeepboop · 13/08/2024 08:14

You're beginning to sound controlling, give up alcohol, don't go out, don't eat cold cuts (wtf is this about?!) eat more veg...
We're not in 2020 now, COVID is a fact of life, and I say that as someone whose husband was classed as clinically extremely vulnerable and was in ICU during the pandemic.
Rein in your anxiety and demands and just relax it all a bit.

cappycap · 13/08/2024 08:14

Why can't he eat cured meats?

Sirzy · 13/08/2024 08:14

PhillipaN · 13/08/2024 08:10

@EricHebbornInItaly it's not like he's against giving things up. He's quit smoking and hasn't had a drink in 5mo. But whereas I do it quietly (I also gave up alcohol) ie I just order the non alcoholic drink without making a song and dance, he will make it out to be this BIG sacrifice he's doing. Or the other day ordered a salami pizza because he fancied it, why not just completely give up cold cuts?? Or he has to be reminded to eat more veg, sighs at it but in the end does eat it...

Getting annoyed at him for eating a pizza?

You need to be careful here because you risk damaging your relationship by being so controlling. I get your desire to have a child but do you want that to permanently damage your relationship? You need to find a sensible balance.

PhillipaN · 13/08/2024 08:11

@Whatatodo79 a little confused what doesn't make sense - we had a baby a few years ago, during the pandemic. Trying to get pregnant again. Yes, having a baby would be limiting, mainly for me the mum, but him too

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PhillipaN · 13/08/2024 08:11

@HavingABitOfAMare no the consultant didn't. It's based on known effects of Covid and the fact that more people seem to be getting it

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PhillipaN · 13/08/2024 08:10

@EricHebbornInItaly it's not like he's against giving things up. He's quit smoking and hasn't had a drink in 5mo. But whereas I do it quietly (I also gave up alcohol) ie I just order the non alcoholic drink without making a song and dance, he will make it out to be this BIG sacrifice he's doing. Or the other day ordered a salami pizza because he fancied it, why not just completely give up cold cuts?? Or he has to be reminded to eat more veg, sighs at it but in the end does eat it...

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HavingABitOfAMare · 12/08/2024 22:32

PhillipaN · 12/08/2024 22:24

@Apolloneuro thing is, even if an IVF consultant said it, he wouldn't do it. To him that social life isn't worth giving up (I was pregnant in the middle of the pandemic so had to shield and he HATED it, so never doing again)

So the consultant didn't say it?

EricHebbornInItaly · 12/08/2024 22:32

Twinklefloss · 12/08/2024 22:30

I think the most pragmatic thing to do here would be for him (and you) to pay to get Covid boosters privately - after checking with consultant what gap is needed before ivf.

it is not practicable to shield from Covid selectively if he’s going in to the office. I caught it last week from my teen DS who had met up with just one (sick) friend in person and had otherwise been at home socialising online.

I think you would be better focusing on more controllable aspects eg alcohol consumption: we went to specialist male fertility consultant who got DH down to having just two drinks a week while ttc after secondary fertility. Alcohol has massive impact on quality of male sperm.

Agree about the alcohol too. TBH if he doesn’t want to give anything up for IVF, does he actually want another child?

Apolloneuro · 12/08/2024 22:31

Oh dear @PhillipaN he doesn’t sound like a peach.

Good idea from @Twinklefloss

EricHebbornInItaly · 12/08/2024 22:31

My clinic cancelled rounds if we caught covid, (this was after lockdowns) and we shielded to a point leading up to and during rounds. We were paying privately so couldn’t afford to waste the tens of thousands of pounds we spent.

Twinklefloss · 12/08/2024 22:30

I think the most pragmatic thing to do here would be for him (and you) to pay to get Covid boosters privately - after checking with consultant what gap is needed before ivf.

it is not practicable to shield from Covid selectively if he’s going in to the office. I caught it last week from my teen DS who had met up with just one (sick) friend in person and had otherwise been at home socialising online.

I think you would be better focusing on more controllable aspects eg alcohol consumption: we went to specialist male fertility consultant who got DH down to having just two drinks a week while ttc after secondary fertility. Alcohol has massive impact on quality of male sperm.

jigglypuff7722 · 12/08/2024 22:27

In the nicest possible way do you think you're projecting alot of worry onto this in particular just incase you have another failure? I say this as this reminds me of myself. We did 4 gos and by the end I was going out of my mind, convinced that my husband having 1 cigarette (he was super stressed too) or a night out would mean somehow it was all going to go wrong again

I would speak to your clinic as I know mine offered free counselling
Not to say your worries aren't founded in anything, IVF takes absolutely all the control out of your life you thought you'd have and this could be a way of feeling like you're back in control a bit.
Hope this didn't offend, speaking from experience and best of luck xxx

Whatatodo79 · 12/08/2024 22:27

PhillipaN · 12/08/2024 22:24

@Apolloneuro thing is, even if an IVF consultant said it, he wouldn't do it. To him that social life isn't worth giving up (I was pregnant in the middle of the pandemic so had to shield and he HATED it, so never doing again)

Isn't having a newborn quite limiting on one's social life? What's really going on here?

PhillipaN · 12/08/2024 22:27

@Whatatodo79 very good point about brushing past... makes me feel kinda better about the large events as he's not exactly interacting for hours with each and every attendee

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Whatatodo79 · 12/08/2024 22:26

PhillipaN · 12/08/2024 22:21

@HemelHan

and surely you are just as likely to catch Covid from Jill at the office as a rando at a concert?

I suppose my logic there is that say there's 100 people in the office in his proximity / on his floor / people who will come close to him. Let's say (numbers used just for explanations' sake, unlikely to be actual accurate probabilities) that 5% of people have Covid. That's 5 people with COVID around him who could in theory infect him.

Going to a concert with 5,000 people. 5% x 5,000 = 250. 250 people to infect him. And ok, they're not all going to come up to him but they're in the same building as him, queueing at the same bars etc. Seems a higher probability of catching it here.

You need to factor in time spent together as well? Brushing past someone in a pub vs sitting next to them for an hour in a meeting etc. I don't think you have got this right

PhillipaN · 12/08/2024 22:24

@Apolloneuro thing is, even if an IVF consultant said it, he wouldn't do it. To him that social life isn't worth giving up (I was pregnant in the middle of the pandemic so had to shield and he HATED it, so never doing again)

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GoldieFurEverywhere · 12/08/2024 22:24

PhillipaN · 12/08/2024 22:21

@HemelHan

and surely you are just as likely to catch Covid from Jill at the office as a rando at a concert?

I suppose my logic there is that say there's 100 people in the office in his proximity / on his floor / people who will come close to him. Let's say (numbers used just for explanations' sake, unlikely to be actual accurate probabilities) that 5% of people have Covid. That's 5 people with COVID around him who could in theory infect him.

Going to a concert with 5,000 people. 5% x 5,000 = 250. 250 people to infect him. And ok, they're not all going to come up to him but they're in the same building as him, queueing at the same bars etc. Seems a higher probability of catching it here.

Talk about missing the bigger picture...

You're obsessed. I can understand why to a certain degree, but it's not at all healthy.

I'm sorry but you're going to end up pushing your DH away. He has a life of his own, he's not existing just to give you a baby.

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