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Neighbours Autistic daughter

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Ashellwithin · 12/08/2024 21:05

Good evening all,

I was recommended to seek advice on this forum by a friend. If anyone could advise, I would be very much appreciative.

I have been living in my flat for the past 12 years. During the first few years, we have had to deal with my neighbour's daughter horrific meltdowns (e.g., jumping on the floor, crying). She was 4 or 5 years old at the time and although I did complain to our Local Housing officer about this, I didn't take this any further as she was quite young and did not think it would be taken seriously. Plus, the meltdowns seemed to had settled during the years.

However, now that my neighbour's daughter is a teen, the meltdowns have started all over again and they are much worse. She will curse, shout, bang, throw things, slams doors, runs up and down. She is very loud! On those days where it has gotten too much, I have regrettably shouted to "Keep the noise down!", on a few occasions. But the noise was really grating me.

The neighbour (mum) struggles to calm down her daughter and often takes her out of the house for long periods of duration or I will see them both wandering in the streets (around midnight!). I have also seen quite a few professionals (I'm assuming as they have lanyards) come in and out of her flat which I take is to support the neighbour's daughter. So I do think the neighbour is trying to support her daughter the best way she can. However, the noise is unbearable and I can no longer take it. I have made a formal complaint to the council about the noise and have recorded the daughter's meltdowns as evidence.

Since then, a mediation meeting between the neighbour and I to resolve the matter. The meeting has not taken place yet as the neighbour always has something going on Hmm (so wondering if she is avoiding this). But I'm hoping to move to a new property or secretly wishing that they will kick out the neighbours and move them elsewhere.

Other than that, what else can I do? This is taken a toll on my mental health.

OP posts:
TruthorDie · 12/08/2024 21:28

MuddlingMackem · 12/08/2024 21:15

I agree with @ChiCharlie, it's not appropriate housing for the girl's disability. Maybe the mother would rather be somewhere better suited, and rather than having a go at them OP you could provide supporting evidence for them to be housed somewhere suitable. She may appreciate your support on this rather than your frustration.

This. Even if the OP moves, then the next person will have the same issues she does. Housing doesn’t sound that suitable for the neighbours daughter. At present that one person is dominating the OP’s life and right to a quiet life which long term l know l couldn’t tolerate

@ChiCharlie this posts are often like this. It’s a pile on for the OP telling them they are selfish and what about the poor parents etc etc. Never mind it’s shredding the Op mental health and she has to pay to live their

Flowery57 · 12/08/2024 21:28

I feel for you as I would find that situation very difficult.

Have you seen your GP at all because if he is prepared to write a letter stating that your living conditions are impacting your mental health, that will help your case. Good luck OP.

gamerchick · 12/08/2024 21:28

ChiCharlie · 12/08/2024 21:25

I'd be delighted being moved to a house because it was more suitable for me and my daughter yes absolutely. I would also be extremely aware of how my DDs meltdowns and actions are having such a big impact on others. Wouldn't you?

That's not what being evicted means. You would be responsible for housing yourself.

Good job it doesn't happen like that though.

It does suck. My friend walks the streets at all hours or her adult kid sits on the edge of her bed not letting her sleep. I'm fairly fortunate I don't get that.

Ashellwithin · 12/08/2024 21:28

What I am taking from these comments is that nothing can be done? Even though I have endured this for a number of years now? How likely will they move me or the neighbour?

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TinyYellow · 12/08/2024 21:28

It’s understandable that the mum doesn’t want to go to a meeting with someone who shouts though the walls at her daughter when she’s already exhausted and has no control over the problem. If you do have the meeting and see her, please be kind and acknowledge that this isn’t her fault.

Mossstitch · 12/08/2024 21:27

TomatoSandwiches · 12/08/2024 21:22

I would go the mediation in the mindset of helping to prove the mother and daughter need more suitable housing since it sounds as if she is already doing everything within her power yo help reduce the impact of noise.

I feel sorry for everyone in this scenario.

This completely......poor woman needs a detached bungalow!!

ChiCharlie · 12/08/2024 21:25

gamerchick · 12/08/2024 21:23

So you would be happy to be evicted then?

I'd be delighted being moved to a house because it was more suitable for me and my daughter yes absolutely. I would also be extremely aware of how my DDs meltdowns and actions are having such a big impact on others. Wouldn't you?

AppleKatie · 12/08/2024 21:25

This feels like bad luck rather than a ’complaint’ situation. The girl can’t help it, the mum is trying her best. 🤷‍♀️

I get that it’s also horrendous for you but it is what it is. Earplugs/headphones and/or move.

roseymoira · 12/08/2024 21:25

I would go to the GP about your own mental health so that it is documented, and you can push to be moved yourself on that basis, presuming you are a council tenant.

Not sure how you'd get on, as there is a shortage of council housing obviously.

If it is really so unbearable then save up and move to a new flat?

LoinChop · 12/08/2024 21:24

I feel for you, op but being that mum whose dd has meltdowns like this and who I've been known to pound the streets with at all hours I can tell you her mother is on her knees with stress. I'd rather be the person on your side of the wall, believe me.

That being said, it's impeding on your own wellbeing and so I think you should use the situation to see if you can be moved.

SapphOhNo · 12/08/2024 21:24

YANBU to find it exhausting but I don't see a world in which they'll move the family.

gamerchick · 12/08/2024 21:23

ChiCharlie · 12/08/2024 21:22

So do I, which is why I fully understand the OPs situation!!

So you would be happy to be evicted then?

TomatoSandwiches · 12/08/2024 21:22

I would go the mediation in the mindset of helping to prove the mother and daughter need more suitable housing since it sounds as if she is already doing everything within her power yo help reduce the impact of noise.

I feel sorry for everyone in this scenario.

ChiCharlie · 12/08/2024 21:22

gamerchick · 12/08/2024 21:20

Because we have autistic kids and live it?

So do I, which is why I fully understand the OPs situation!!

CosmicDaisyChain · 12/08/2024 21:21

Ashellwithin · 12/08/2024 21:18

What I want to know is how far will my complaint go? Will they rehouse me or find the neighbour some where else to leave?

Incredibly unlikely. They usually suggest mutual exchange which essentially put solving the issue back on to you.

gamerchick · 12/08/2024 21:20

ChiCharlie · 12/08/2024 21:18

Not one of the people on here commenting that YABU will be living in a similar situation dealing with such disruption. Its tiring reading the comments.

Because we have autistic kids and live it?

TheYearOfSmallThings · 12/08/2024 21:19

If they are social tenants they will not be evicted - it sounds as if they are handling it as well as anyone could.

I have a lot of sympathy because the noise must be unsettling.

ChiCharlie · 12/08/2024 21:18

Not one of the people on here commenting that YABU will be living in a similar situation dealing with such disruption. Its tiring reading the comments.

Ashellwithin · 12/08/2024 21:18

What I want to know is how far will my complaint go? Will they rehouse me or find the neighbour some where else to leave?

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Londonrach1 · 12/08/2024 21:18

I suspect the council might evict you. You are being the difficult neighbour here. That poor mother.

Moier · 12/08/2024 21:18

I'm gobsmacked.
I'm not sure what more you want the Mum to do.
What's mediation going to achieve? She can't gag her daughter .
I think you need to educate yourself on all aspects of ASD.
How do you think their mental health is?
If you can't tolerate it any more.
You MOVE !!!!
Rather than trying to get a disabled person evicted.

saraclara · 12/08/2024 21:18

That's awful for everyone. I spent my career working with children with autism, so I know how distressing it was for their parents and how they worried about their neighbours.

But I also find neighbour noise really difficult to manage. If I have any sensory quirks, they're about noise that I can't control. So I empathise with OP and I doubt that I could have dealt with it for as long as she has.

SparklyCyanNewt · 12/08/2024 21:17

Your mental health ... what about the mother's. Struggling to help.and support her daughter, not sleeping well if they are out at all hours, having to deal with tantrums and meltdowns. I bet she is worrying constantly about her daughter and how her behaviour is impacting the people around them, including you. To add to her struggles with her daughter she now has a noise complaint against her which she can do little about but knowing that you are judging her and her parenting. If it was me in that situation I would be in bits. No matter how bad this situation is for you have a little compassion for your neighbour!

Ashellwithin · 12/08/2024 21:16

I don't want to do the mediation but it's part of the complaints process. If I disagree, then it comes across that I don't want to solve the matter.

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stichguru · 12/08/2024 21:16

No eviction due to disability is not legal, and I'm pretty sure that any person or organisation who tried it, would, quite rightly, find themselves in deep legal trouble, as they should.