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To think the Co op should not allow this?

217 replies

KimberleyClark · 12/08/2024 17:18

Just been to my small local Co op for a few things and chuggers just inside the door. It was so intimidating. Right there in my face as I walked in. Ignored them as they tried to engage with me as I waked in, they tried again as I walked out and called have a nice day as I left. I do give to various charities but I do hate this.

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taxguru · 15/08/2024 11:45

Barneysmomma · 12/08/2024 21:15

I work in a hospital and was stopped by chuggers in the foyer of my place of work to ask if I would set up a direct debit for the air ambulance service- I was clearly in an NHS uniform!

Why does uniform matter?

KimberleyClark · 15/08/2024 11:30

Went to the Co op again yesterday, more chuggers different charity, Great Ormond Children's hospital this time, I wouldn't have minded contributing to a tin collection but we have our own children's hospital in Wales!

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KimberleyClark · 12/08/2024 22:17

Thanks so much for all the replies, glad to know I’m not the only one.

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PickAChew · 12/08/2024 22:17

JudgementalRaccoon · 12/08/2024 21:02

There are rules about fundraising, including not manipulating people or trying to make them feel guilty, not blocking exits, not approaching people who are seated or in a queue, being clear that they are fundraising, and most importantly, not continuing to ask people if they have shown, including by a gesture, that they are not interested.
https://www.fundraisingregulator.org.uk/code/specific-fundraising-methods/collecting-money-or-other-property#behaviour-when-collecting-money-or-other-property

I have bookmarked that and might just open the page the next time one makes me feel chippy.

Bodeganights · 12/08/2024 22:16

I didn't know chuggers were back, I haven't seen one in a long time. They used to range down the high street.
I used to charmingly say I do not give my bank details to complete strangers on the street.
Also, I already give to the charity you are working for, before they even told me which charity it was.

These days I'd (if I had time) look up the specific charity, make sure they were a real charity, look at that charities accounts and say something like, well hell they have 70 billion sat dormant in an account, come back to me when they're on their last 10k and I'll think about it.
And/or, well the top brass in said charity are on x000s of pounds salary. That is 1000 times more than my salary. Get them to give money.

And if no time, a sweet little not today love. I SAID NOT TODAY LOVE.

Sawitch · 12/08/2024 22:05

DancingFerret · 12/08/2024 18:41

If I have the time, ask them at length all about their charity - in French. I've yet to find one who understands, and I make a point of gesticulating and demanding their attention as many possible targets walk by, usually with a grin and sometimes a thumbs-up.

I do the same using sign language. They're so embarrassed and can't wait to get rid of me!

GrannyWeatherwaxsHatpin · 12/08/2024 21:46

I loathe chuggers. If no one gave to them charities wouldn’t use them.

I generally just say “No, thanks” and walk past. Most leave it there. A few try the smart arse approach and get a smart arse answer in return (“Do you care about children?” “No, can’t stand the little fuckers.”)

For those who wants to be rude or personal, it’s fair game as far as I’m concerned. I took great delight in berating a rude RSPCA chugger for as long and as loudly as I could in the middle of a railway station. He kept trying edge away from me so I followed him, just like they do Grin

Ellie56 · 12/08/2024 21:21

velvetcoat · 12/08/2024 19:13

YANBU- they are really persistent and irritating. Best way I've found to get rid is to simply tell them, "I already have a direct debit set up with your charity". It's a total lie but they have nowhere to go with it if you already donate PLUS it makes you sound generous if anyone is watching/listening so they cant then hassle you any more.

Works every time.

Yes I've done similar. I say I already donate to X charity (usually I mean I donate goods not money) but they don't know that.

Barneysmomma · 12/08/2024 21:15

I work in a hospital and was stopped by chuggers in the foyer of my place of work to ask if I would set up a direct debit for the air ambulance service- I was clearly in an NHS uniform!

weegiemum · 12/08/2024 21:11

I used to get stopped a lot in the city centre, walking to the train station.

They don't engage with someone in a wheelchair though. I've not been approached once in the 12 years I've been in one!

JudgementalRaccoon · 12/08/2024 21:11

@NotA6FigureSalary
I know! Its worth being able
to quote the Code of Fundraising Practice at them when they do through.

Musiclover234 · 12/08/2024 21:11

i hate it. i donate to charity as i see fit. Not in the street with my bank details.

Had one who was working for cancer charity called after me oh so you don’t want to help sick children then!? My reply … i do, every day in work, more than you ever will understand. (Paeds ward). It made me angry to use emotional blackmail so he could hit targets

BobbyBiscuits · 12/08/2024 21:09

If they're inside the shop then they've paid to be there. If they're on the public street outside then that's their free choice.
They shouldn't be intimidating? Chuggers are usually very smiley and friendly? I've always just politely said hello and said sorry I'm busy, but good luck.
If they genuinely were rude or threatening then do report them to the shop if inside, or the charity they represent.

LoveSummerNotIcecream · 12/08/2024 21:06

Just put on your most unfriendly voice and announce loudly, “God no, I hate cats/dogs/children/hospices/whatever” and keep walking. They’ll be so taken aback by you they won’t ask again.

I had someone collecting for Battersea dogs home ring the doorbell at 7:30 two nights ago just when I’d got my youngest to bed. It woke him up and I was not impressed. Just shouted at them that I hate dogs and couldn’t eat a whole one. He went away clearly thinking I was bonkers. I noticed they’re still canvassing my street, but avoiding my house.

And clearly I’ve never eaten dog, it was a joke.

NotA6FigureSalary · 12/08/2024 21:05

@JudgementalRaccoon you literally just listed all the techniques charity muggers use!

JudgementalRaccoon · 12/08/2024 21:02

There are rules about fundraising, including not manipulating people or trying to make them feel guilty, not blocking exits, not approaching people who are seated or in a queue, being clear that they are fundraising, and most importantly, not continuing to ask people if they have shown, including by a gesture, that they are not interested.
https://www.fundraisingregulator.org.uk/code/specific-fundraising-methods/collecting-money-or-other-property#behaviour-when-collecting-money-or-other-property

Collecting money or other property

This section covers collections of money or other property (including goods and regular gifts) for charitable institutions, whether carried out on the street, house-to-house or on private sites.

https://www.fundraisingregulator.org.uk/code/specific-fundraising-methods/collecting-money-or-other-property#behaviour-when-collecting-money-or-other-property

owladventure · 12/08/2024 21:00

they must be making a lot of money out of it to pay all the chuggers but really?

If they don't hit their commission targets, they get sacked very quickly. It's a high churn exploitative model all round.

StoneTheCrone · 12/08/2024 21:00

This is why I hate high street shopping and the local Co-op. I go out of town to a retail park now. Sadly, my local M&S has also been siezed by chuggers lurking outside.

what i hate more than anything though is a Big Issue seller in one of my local towns. She doesnt just say "Big Issue" or "would you like a copy?" She screams and wails "BIIIIIIG IIISHHHHHOOOOOOOOO! While waving a copy in your face as you scoot past.

i understand that charitable donations are down this year and i can see why.

PickAChew · 12/08/2024 20:58

elliejjtiny · 12/08/2024 18:00

I had this at the hospital while I was trying to quickly get some food and get back on the ward before ds came back from theatre. I quickly explained that I had to get back to the ward quickly and they just said it wouldn't take long.

You don't owe them any explanation. "No" should be sufficient. I've been known to add a "sod off" to particularly pushy ones. It's downright cynical of them to be targeting people under stress like you were.

NotA6FigureSalary · 12/08/2024 20:54

I only ever allow them to round up to the next pound to donate to charity if it's McDonalds cos I'm worried they will spit in my food if I don't. <irrational> If it's Tesco, I don't.

GoogleWhacking · 12/08/2024 20:54

Maybe if the shop staff see the chuggers are putting people off coming in, the shop will reconsider.
@Cluelessaboutbiology you'd be hard pressed to even find someone serving in my local Coop, they seem to prefer congregating at the back of the shop ignoring the full aisle long queue.

Drizzlethru · 12/08/2024 20:53

I refuse to sign up with chuggers as so much of what would donate goes to the agency the chugged is with … to,pay them and make a profit.

direct payments to charity only.

same with the “press to donate” at coop til - er, no as not tax efficient and just allows the shop to say how much they give to that charity,

NotA6FigureSalary · 12/08/2024 20:53

brunettemic · 12/08/2024 20:49

Just say no thanks or tell them you already donate to various charities…it’s hardly a big issue.

It is though. As a pp pointed out, they target the elderly/women on their own. We ALL need to stand up for saying we've had enough of charity muggers. I thought they died out 10 years ago tbh.

whereisthelifethatirecognize · 12/08/2024 20:50

"no thank you" is my automatic reply to all chuggers as I keep moving past them

AthenaBasil · 12/08/2024 20:50

My local Tesco has started this. They’ve chosen the perfect spot just near the exit so it’s hard to quickly get by them as you’re often slowed down with people pushing trolleys around a corner and out the door. For some reason they think offering stickers is appealing to adults.