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To be worried about boyfriend’s work ethic?

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Duplofez · 12/08/2024 14:47

We don’t live together yet but I’m considering moving in soon, and then marrying who it having a family with him in the future.

I’m starting to worry about the future though, because it’s becoming clear that we have very different views when it comes to work. I think it’s really important to turn up every day, and I will very rarely take the day off ill. If I’m feeling under the weather, I’ll just work from home.

Boyfriend however will take any opportunity he can to be off work. He really doesn’t like his job, and every time he has even a minor cold he’ll take multiple days off work ill. He’s currently had an illness where the doctor recommended he work from home for a week, but instead he’s asked the doctor to write a letter saying he needs to be off work completely for 2 weeks. We’re then on holiday for 2 weeks so he’ll have been away from work for a month in a row.

I’d get it if this one a one off thing, but he also hated his last job and told me he hated the job before that too.

I worry that if we had kids and a mortgage etc in the future, him taking off so much time could get him fired and leave us financially vulnerable.

AIBU to be worried about this?

OP posts:
OriginalUsername2 · 12/08/2024 15:59

I’ve read all your responses and he seems like a good, intelligent person who struggles with criticism at work. That’s a skill and mindset that can be worked on.. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.

As he’s in currently in therapy it’s likely he’ll have it in him to address it if you tell him your concerns for the future.

PerkyMintDeer · 12/08/2024 15:59

My ex was like this.

He found a mug breadwinner to marry and is essentially a house husband.

Who has no kids & does no domestic work.

Run.

Lupina12 · 12/08/2024 15:58

What does he do when he's off work?

-Does he sit around feeling sorry for himself/gaming/being useless (red flag)

-Does he use the time to figure out and plan his amazing next steps/new business (smart guy, possibly green flag!)

MounjaroUser · 12/08/2024 15:57

You'd have to be mad to commit yourself to a man like this, especially if you're from a background where divorce is disapproved of.

He will go freelance and will fall out with everyone. You'll have joint accounts and a mortgage that you have to keep going. His lack of resilience is the very last thing you need in a partner.

This is your chance. You know you'll regret it otherwise.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 12/08/2024 15:57

Duplofez · 12/08/2024 15:04

Good job in the sense that it’s highly paid and sought after. He’s very highly qualified and intelligent. He just reacts badly when he doesn’t get good feedback and it makes him want to quit.

If he can't take constructive criticism, which is essential for development in any role, AND three bosses in a row have disliked him, he is the problem.

He doesn't want to do things the correct way, probably because he thinks he knows better, and doesn't react well to anything other than good feedback. He's not going to be able to stay stable in a role, and if he sets up on his own and does something wrong for clients, he's going to be done.

Aside from that, how do you think he's going to react if you give him "bad feedback" because he's not pulling his weight round the house? Or with the future kids? Or, god forbid, is doing something dangerous with the kids and you have to call it out? Is the resulting reaction to those things something you think you want to live with?

LlynTegid · 12/08/2024 15:56

Large red flag. Walk away now.

Even if it is just bad luck with useless or bad bosses, you will never know.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 12/08/2024 15:56

Yanbu

I’d also be worried about his job seeking energy if he lost his job. I would predict that a guy like this will be very resentful of you being on maternity leave and likely to slack even more because he has the broken sleep excuse.

Womanofcustard · 12/08/2024 15:55

The ‘starting own business/working for myself’ is a huge red flag. Every person (all blokes!) I’ve known who comes out with this it’s because they can’t bear having a boss/taking orders. If they were a Richard Branson - they’d already be doing it! Run OP.

Maplelady · 12/08/2024 15:54

HumanRightsAreHumanRights · 12/08/2024 15:53

OP, I can tell you from experience that this sort of man often ends up in work less and less as they get older.

It's easier to get a job in your twenties, but when you have a ten or twenty year work history of leaving you job after job because you didn't like your boss and every absence you can take, it makes it harder to find an employer to take you on.

The men I've known like that (who are all intelligent and all say their brilliance isn't appreciated at work - it's never their fault) tend to seek out women with decent earning potential then want to start their own business while the woman supports them to basically piss around for years doing not much at all.

Please don't consider having children with this man.
I expect he'll develop a bad back in the future which means he'll only be able to do what he actually wants at any given time.

Absolutely this!

AluckyEllie · 12/08/2024 15:54

@HumanRightsAreHumanRights we have met the same type I see!

AluckyEllie · 12/08/2024 15:53

@Duplofez I’ve met a few men who sound a bit like your BF. They don’t take well to feedback, constantly have problems with their boss or the job, always think the next one will be better because that boss will ‘get them.’ Highly intelligent and probably always been told how good/clever they are as a teen/through uni so then get annoyed at being told what to do/not being the big fish. No resilience or understanding of how to work in a team. Expect a salary for gracing them with their presence.

If he starts his own business he’ll probably be just as lazy there, not like his clients and you’ll end up with the stress of sharing a mortgage with a guy who can’t stick to a job. Your family might really like him but they’ll like the next guy you bring home- because YOU like him. You sound very sensible. Don’t have kids with him or buy a house or share finances. This should be the easy bit of a relationship- fancy free and exciting, if you are already worrying I’d say it’s game over. You need to be able to depend on a partner when life gets tough, financially as well as other aspects.

HumanRightsAreHumanRights · 12/08/2024 15:53

OP, I can tell you from experience that this sort of man often ends up in work less and less as they get older.

It's easier to get a job in your twenties, but when you have a ten or twenty year work history of leaving you job after job because you didn't like your boss and every absence you can take, it makes it harder to find an employer to take you on.

The men I've known like that (who are all intelligent and all say their brilliance isn't appreciated at work - it's never their fault) tend to seek out women with decent earning potential then want to start their own business while the woman supports them to basically piss around for years doing not much at all.

Please don't consider having children with this man.
I expect he'll develop a bad back in the future which means he'll only be able to do what he actually wants at any given time.

Maplelady · 12/08/2024 15:53

Duplofez · 12/08/2024 15:01

The job he does have is a very good one, and very competitive to get into.

He was desperate to get into this role but he’s now hating it because he doesn’t like his bosses and they’re giving him bad feedback about how he’s doing.

he wants to start his own business, so he’s said he’ll use the 2 weeks to focus on making headway with getting that set up. But it seems like the business is a gamble and I worry about what will happen if it fails and he has to go back to working for others.

my ex was like this. I thought he’d finally be happy and motivated when he left his job and set up on his own. He was more ‘unemployed’ than ‘self employed’ and it was very frustrating, especially because I was doing the financial heavy lifting and household management. It led to severe resentment. His whole family had a weird attitude towards work, complaining about their jobs all the time rather than taking action. It was insufferable

Channellingsophistication · 12/08/2024 15:52

I would absolutely run a mile.

A family member has no tolerance for work. If he doesn’t like it immediately, he leaves, if someone asks him to do something he doesn’t like, he leaves. He has had some really good jobs in the past. It’s a real worry for the family.

You will have a life of worry and no security with this man

2Rebecca · 12/08/2024 15:52

I couldn't live with someone like this. I'd be concerned that I'd end up supporting them whilst they play at being a "poor me" and idle about. I don't want a workaholic but I want a man who'll pull his weight and has resilience and a sense of fair play and wanting to play his part in life not just rely on others.

FriendsDrinkBook · 12/08/2024 15:51

@Elbone I agree. Unfortunately I ended up marrying mine and having two children. ALL of his bosses hated him , probably because he was a lazy sod , I was silly to believe his version of events.

EatCrow · 12/08/2024 15:49

You’re clearly completely incompatible OP, surely you know this.

Elbone · 12/08/2024 15:49

I had one of these, OP.

Throw him back.

hattie43 · 12/08/2024 15:48

Nope I would not be planning a future with anyone work shy particularly if a family is on the cards . What happens when you are on maternity leave and then baby arrives and he can't work because he's exhausted.

No cast your net elsewhere he's not a keeper . Not a good role model for any child

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 12/08/2024 15:47

LifeExperience · 12/08/2024 14:53

Men present their best selves at the beginning of a relationship. If his best self is work-shy his worst self is a slug, no offense to slugs. End it unless you love misery and want a cocklodger.

Agree completely

Duplofez · 12/08/2024 15:46

Maybe I do need to work on my self esteem, but I really worry that he’s the best I’ll ever find.

I can only date within my religion, so there’s already a very small pool of available men. On top of that, I’m getting to the age where I want to be married and have kids in the next 3 years.

But maybe I would regret staying with him longer term.

OP posts:
Lampzade · 12/08/2024 15:46

Op end it now , it will only get worse
My twenty year old very ambitious dd has recently dumped her boyfriend because of his lack of ambition and work ethic.
He was a nice young man, but my dd said that she could foresee a life of conflict and wasn’t prepared to go down that route
Out of the mouth of babes..,,

CoffeandTiaMaria · 12/08/2024 15:42

He appears to have a highly inflated sense of his value to an employer, and an inability to take constructive criticism or responsibility for his work.
I certainly wouldn’t waste any more of my time on this relationship.
I knew someone like this years ago, it was exhausting and it became boring hearing the same stuff over and over again.
Luckily he was a friend, not a potential partner.

TwinklyAmberOrca · 12/08/2024 15:41

A friend has just ended her two year relationship as her BF just lacked ambition and his lack of aspirations and work ethics became a turn off.

My cousin ended her 8 year marriage as her husband had a complete lack of ambition and decided after baby number 2 that he was going to be a stay at home dad and she could work. Except his idea of parenting was TV all day why he played on his XBox...

On the basis we spend potentially 50 years of our lives working then a partner lacking ambition or work ethics isn't much of an attractive prospect!

Ithinkwedbefriendscomelittlebabe · 12/08/2024 15:40

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