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To think you ought to tidy to a reasonable basic standard before people come to view your house?

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LeapingUpstream · 12/08/2024 10:30

Trying to settle a debate with DH. I'm not talking about making it look show-home perfect, I'm talking about making it look like a reasonably tidy and welcoming, albeit lived-in home.

YANBU: A basic level of cleanliness/ tidiness is both expected and kind of important to actually selling the place.

YABU: No, it's fine to let people look round whatever state it's in, even if the master bedroom floor is mostly invisible. (And therefore leaving it in said state for your heavily pregnant and not-very-well wife who can't currently bend over to deal with, having done nothing about it all weekend, despite saying you would, is totally acceptable. And she's being the unreasonable one for thinking it ought to be tidy and for being stressed and upset that it isn't.)

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PocketSand · 12/08/2024 12:13

I would clear the floor - anything of yours your need to claim and then get DC to do it - they will feel gleeful about putting DH's precious stuff in a bin bag, and then put it outside. Maybe in the garage or shed if I was feeling generous. But only if they are giant spiders, maybe a wasp nest. Pity rain is not due otherwise it would be out out. He is taking the piss at the least and potentially enjoying the stress he has caused at the worst because he has pissed off and left it all to you. But he has left it all to you so bin it. Or maybe tell him you binned it when it is safe in the shed to teach him to clear up before a viewing. Two strikes and you're out - next time it is really gone to recycling

Shouldn't have to play these games.

Cosyblankets · 12/08/2024 12:10

I don't think the house sale is the issue here.
The issue is either the fact that you have different standards or that he sees it as your job

TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 12/08/2024 12:09

I feel like there's more going on here. Is he usually helpful around the house? Does he take his share of the load?

Toastcrumbsinsofa · 12/08/2024 12:09

If he’s this lazy about trying to sell the house it doesn’t bode well for having a newborn baby. Is this his first child?

gamerchick · 12/08/2024 12:09

Think I'd cancel the viewing and if husband is happy to show house without tidying, he can book the viewings when he's there to do them and you can go out.

GoFigure235 · 12/08/2024 12:05

It kind of depends.

I'm not sure as a societal norm/expectation, but if you're selling your own house, then it's clearly in your interests to have it tidy and uncluttered. You're essentially selling a lifestyle in many cases, and people aren't going to buy it if all they can visualise 5 years and 2 kids down the line is mess and clutter everywhere and having to move again for more space. The message you want to give is "This house works for a family, who can live neatly and tidily here and have time for hobbies and self-fulfilment and feelings of zen" (even if that's complete bullshit!). No one is going to buy a house that stresses them out.

If it's a landlord's property and they're selling/ letting to new tenants, I'd probably make sure no dirty dishes in the sink or knickers on the bedroom floor but that's about it.

Crispsarethebestfood · 12/08/2024 12:04

It partly depends what price you want for the house.
We are currently selling and we want as close to the asking price as possible so we are making the house look as good as it can look. That includes the built in cupboard being tidy and half empty (to show the abundance of storage available- so much we don’t even need it all 😂😂)
However we are looking at ‘no onward chain’ doer uppers. I fully accept they might be awful, and often look at the ceiling for a real idea of room size. But I won’t be offering asking price for them (unless they are really ‘priced to sell’.
I am continually surprised when I see the marketing photos on Rightmove of houses where people are living and they are messy; with baskets of washing on the sofa etc. You knew they were coming!! You booked them and you want to sell the house! Move the washing!
A bedroom floor covered in crap would put me off. Maybe not from offering but certainly from giving a top offer unless there were overwhelming positives.

Wannabegreenfingers · 12/08/2024 11:56

When I was looking two years ago I came to the conclusion that lots of people don't tidy or do basic levels of maintenance and must keep moving to avoid it!

I basic level of tidy/cleanliness is definitely required.

waterrat · 12/08/2024 11:46

I've sold / bought 3 houses and it's absolutely not acceptable (or helpful to sell) for it to be anything other than immaculate. sorry.

SoMauveMonty · 12/08/2024 11:45

TappyGilmore · 12/08/2024 10:50

Of course a basic standard or cleanliness and tidiness is required. Beyond that, you might go to more or less effort depending on things like the type of property etc, but there is certainly a minimum standard for letting people in.

Once I viewed a house with dog shit on the carpet. It was about 10am and the people who lived there were still in bed, poor dog probably hadn’t been let out and couldn’t wait any longer. It’s not really the way to sell a house.

Oh God, i viewed a house in this sort of state too :/ On paper it was ideal for us but was obviously going to need a proper deep clean so we left it.

If your house is cluttered/untidy viewers are going to be thinking 'if this is what the surface is like, what's going on underneath?' ie are you also careless about maintenance and repairs, and it'll be hard for them to get a good sense of how big rooms are - yes the measurements will be on the details but many of us 'see' much better in the flesh. So you're right, It's to your advantage for the house to seem as spacious and well kept as possible.
I moved last year and had a proper belt & braces clean, clear and tidy before we went on the market, and was strict with dcs about keeping on top of it after that. We had an offer within a month.

Is your DH not bothered about moving?

QueenOfWeeds · 12/08/2024 11:40

YANBU.

I would let the children pick 3 songs each on Spotify and make a tidy up playlist, alternating tracks. Then get an empty hold-all or suitcase, put it on the bed, and sit next to it. Whilst their song is playing, they have to tidy up things off the floor onto the bed. Anything that’s his, you put in the suitcase. Anything else you can fold neatly and make a pile for each person. When their song finishes, the next child tags in. When the playlist is over, stop and give them time to do their own thing. If they want to keep going during a sibling’s track, they can have 50p/extra 10 minutes on screens/whatever bribe you normally do. When it’s done, zip the case up, tidy to the side of the room, and leave it for him to sort through when he runs out of clothes.

FrenchandSaunders · 12/08/2024 11:39

Even if it wasn't up for sale, that would wind me up.

FrenchandSaunders · 12/08/2024 11:39

Lazy arse, of course it should be tidy. Not show home level but being unable to see the bedroom carpet is bad!

Ginkypig · 12/08/2024 11:33

Also to add

with a viewing especially if I saw a certain level of untidiness or dirt it would make me think about how they lived in general what else they did to the house.

id be thinking there were hidden things due to lack of care because if that’s what they let complete strangers see what else don’t they care about

Georgyporky · 12/08/2024 11:33

Get the Estate Agent to tell him.

theresnolimits · 12/08/2024 11:33

That level of mess isn’t acceptable whether you’re selling a house or not.

You live in the house/bedroom too and it’s just respectful to clear up after yourself.

Wexone · 12/08/2024 11:31

Sweet lord i couldn't deal with this - Have sold a few homes and my god when we had viewing we made sure it was so so tidy. I never forget we got a call one time that someone was coming i had left that morning for overseas trip, himself raced home anything that didn't belong in the room was shoved in the press or anywhere they couldn't see, There was stuff shoved everywhere after that i bought plastic boxes that i could shove everything in and put in the van and the car. Also made a conscious effort hoover and wash floors nearly everyday to keep place clean- selling your house is a huge thing and you need to ensure that its ready to sell in order to sell quickly and no issues

AgreeableDragon · 12/08/2024 11:30

I once viewed a property where the owner had left their crusty knickers on the bedroom floor. I didn’t even bother giving the EA feedback, it was disgusting.
Your DH is so out of touch! Sounds like he needs a wake up call in more ways than one.

Ginkypig · 12/08/2024 11:28

I agree with you. Things don’t need to be perfect but it needs to at least have clear work top and you can walk around without having to step over things.

im not a really tidy person but I try not to let it drop into unmanageable.

even if the master bedroom floor is mostly invisible

this sentence jumped out to me @LeapingUpstream because I don’t think that’s acceptable at anytime, never mind when having a viewing!
There is no reason to just drop someone on the bedroom floor and leave it there! Then even worse leaving a heavily pregnant partner to clean it up!

I tell you something if dp dropped his clothes other stuff on the floor I’d be right telling him to get it picked up! It’s bad enough when he leaves his dirty washing in the bathroom on the shelf things but at least it’s in a sort of tidy pile.

that’s not to say I don’t have washing piled on top of a basket sometimes or a coffee table covered in stuff that needs sorted or a pile of dishes I haven’t managed yet.

also all adults in the house are responsible for keeping the living areas tidy and clean (not necessarily perfect but to a bit of a standard) he needs to understand you are not the default.

jay55 · 12/08/2024 11:27

If there's stuff all over the bedroom floor, it likely smells. And people viewing will know there isn't enough storage and be put off.

BeyondMyWits · 12/08/2024 11:21

I'd assume someone doesn't really want to sell.

Nanny0gg · 12/08/2024 11:20

LeapingUpstream · 12/08/2024 10:40

Not really, he's buggered off to work leaving me to enlist the dubious support of an overenthusiastic but incompetent 10yo and a 7yo who treats all attempts to make him tidy as a form of physical torture. But apparently I'm in the wrong for getting upset that he's done fuck all to help as it doesn't need to be done. It's all in my head, apparently.

Edited

Unless mental health issues I don't understand people who are happy with real untidiness when you want people to come into your home. I'd be mortified.

He also isn't very respectful of you or your health. But I assume this isn't unusual for you?

DearestGentleReader · 12/08/2024 11:18

🚨 lazy, selfish dickhead alert! 🚨

YABU. Leaving aside the utter stupidity of trying to sell your single most valuable asset while simultaneously demonstrating to potential buyers that you don't give a shit about it - if he tells his heavily pregnant and unwell wife he will do something, he should bloody well be doing it!
You can't trust him to pick up his own pants. It's not a good look for a grown man, and demonstrating that he doesn't give a shit about you.

siblingrevelryagain · 12/08/2024 11:15

So much of the house buying is instinct and emotion - yes, there are practical considerations that override this, but if your heart sinks when you walk in somewhere untidy it will be hard to overcome that.

We both drove round with crap in our cars for weeks when we were selling our house - things that didn't necessarily have a home were rattling round (laundry baskets etc!)

TiaraBoo · 12/08/2024 11:11

Does he want to sell the house?

If I see a house over cluttered (piled up), it just tells me I’m not going to fit things in and if really messy and all over the floor, then I’d assume like pp’s that you’re not maintaining the house adequately.

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