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To think you ought to tidy to a reasonable basic standard before people come to view your house?

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LeapingUpstream · 12/08/2024 10:30

Trying to settle a debate with DH. I'm not talking about making it look show-home perfect, I'm talking about making it look like a reasonably tidy and welcoming, albeit lived-in home.

YANBU: A basic level of cleanliness/ tidiness is both expected and kind of important to actually selling the place.

YABU: No, it's fine to let people look round whatever state it's in, even if the master bedroom floor is mostly invisible. (And therefore leaving it in said state for your heavily pregnant and not-very-well wife who can't currently bend over to deal with, having done nothing about it all weekend, despite saying you would, is totally acceptable. And she's being the unreasonable one for thinking it ought to be tidy and for being stressed and upset that it isn't.)

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OP posts:
Josette77 · 12/08/2024 12:40

I disagree with you both.

When having viewings it should look like a show home. Every agent I've worked with has said that and I've sold three homes now, and in two days each.

SuziQuinto · 12/08/2024 12:38

Westfacing · 12/08/2024 12:36

And it was around midday - not like we'd turned up unexpectedly at 09.00!

😨 I remember looking round someone's house and they had to get Grandma out of bed. It was an 8pm viewing, but the owners could have rescheduled! I did feel awful for her.

LeapingUpstream · 12/08/2024 12:37

Toastcrumbsinsofa · 12/08/2024 12:09

If he’s this lazy about trying to sell the house it doesn’t bode well for having a newborn baby. Is this his first child?

No, the older two are his as well. And to be fair he's a good, hands-on dad and usually does a reasonable amount in the house. And he's keener on selling than I am, though I agree we need to. I just didn't want to be faffing with it while heavily pregnant/ dealing with a newborn, but external life circumstances are kind of dictating it happens now 🤷🏻‍♀️.
We've also sold twice before, and both times he was 'normal' about it - ie agreed the place needed to be clean and tidy, and helped to make sure it was! He just seems to have had some sort of brain fart this time, and his reaction to me getting in a state about how much needs doing and my (relative) inability to do it is to tell me that I'm being silly thinking it needs tidying! 🤯

OP posts:
Westfacing · 12/08/2024 12:36

SuziQuinto · 12/08/2024 12:34

😂that estate agent had their work cut out!

And it was around midday - not like we'd turned up unexpectedly at 09.00!

Ineedaholidayyyy · 12/08/2024 12:36

I'm not a tidy person by any means, I keep the house clean but I have far too much stuff and clutter I'm not always the best at putting things away, we have limited storage that doesn't help. However I would not want people to come and view my house and it being a mess, so I'd make an effort to looking as presentable as possible for people coming to view it.

SuziQuinto · 12/08/2024 12:34

Westfacing · 12/08/2024 12:32

By the time the EA and I reached the bedroom I'd already decided that this place wasn't for me. She opened the door to the very messy bedroom and the oaf turned over in his sleep - so we just left!

😂that estate agent had their work cut out!

Westfacing · 12/08/2024 12:32

SuziQuinto · 12/08/2024 12:16

That's brilliant! Did you just walk round him to look at the room

By the time the EA and I reached the bedroom I'd already decided that this place wasn't for me. She opened the door to the very messy bedroom and the oaf turned over in his sleep - so we just left!

PocketSand · 12/08/2024 12:30

The husband and the house are different issues. I once went to the very cluttered cottage extended into a house to buy an exclusive guitar for my son's 18th. But it was a large and very desirable house with middle class clutter. They clearly had enough space and storage but were too caught up with erudite concerns to clear and clean. Seriously they had a 12 foot dining table that the seller had to push an A4 space into it was so cluttered. Working class clutter on a new build estate is not desirable.

I would have bought the cluttered house in a heartbeat if I won the lottery.

Crunchymum · 12/08/2024 12:30

Your husband doesn't sound very nice OP.

You're heavily pregnant and ill and looking after 2 other DC.

What an arsehole.

Gettingbysomehow · 12/08/2024 12:27

If I can't see what I'm buying I won't make an offer because I need to be able to see the floors, kitchen sideboards etc. The mess could be hiding something. Tell him to get off his lazy arse and clean it up.

boredybored · 12/08/2024 12:27

I make my house show home ready every single time because I wanted to sell after finding my dream home .. every single person commented how lovely the. Presentation was to the EA so I'm guessing a lot of people don't bother but I have pride and I'd hate someone to think I was grubby ! ( I am not so unlikely I guess )

It sold after a few viewings so I think it definitely helps

DadJoke · 12/08/2024 12:26

He doesn't believe that the house should be untidy when it's viewed. He just doesn't want to tidy the house. Its weaponised incompetence.

Untidy people don't mind viewing a tidy house. Tidy people really don't want to view a untidy house.

You DH will not be able to find a single article which supports his alleged view.

blueshoes · 12/08/2024 12:24

If I viewed a messy house where I could not see the bedroom floor, dh and I would probably beat a hasty retreat and would be talking about it for days but not in a good way.

CultOfRamen · 12/08/2024 12:24

But if it’s ok to live in it like that day to day then why not ok to show people round?

I wouldn’t run around cleaning for viewings as I cant live in a space I would be embarrassed for others to see.

I understand your other half’s point of view- why make extra effort for total strangers if you all can’t be bothered to make the effort for yourselves?

and btw at least your ten year old is trying to help you- calling them incompetent is mean as fuck

theleafandnotthetree · 12/08/2024 12:23

Maybe it's my respectable working class roots but I would certainly never want to give it to be said that I kept my house in that state. It is a matter of both self respect but also respect for the other person who is coming to view. You expect them to come and view and potentially spend hundreds of thousands on your home and you can't put your dirty clothes in a hamper? One of the saddest thing I ever saw was when I viewed a house lived in by an elderly person who had died. The children selling it - so making pure profit - didn't even have the decency to clear away the man's medicines and eye glasses and personal bits and bobs from the bed side locker. I felt like we were violating this man's privacy in some way and I cannot imagine he would have wanted a crowd of strangers trooping through his life long home gawping at it.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 12/08/2024 12:23

I'd be ordering a litter picker from amazon so you don't have to bend over and just putting everything he owns that's on the floor in a black bin bag and shoving it in his wardrobe, car boot, garage.

I would concentrate on teaching the kids to tidy up after themselves, that will be of more use when a baby comes and hopefully you move house.

If they are willing to consider what special toys they have that they are too big for and want to give as a present to their new baby brother or sister, it's a good way to get them to help weed through toys and box them up.

Selling a house is exhausting trying to keep everything tidy. Much easier in a sellers market which this isn't. If it's not madly urgent then maybe take it off the market until next year and hope that things improve. If you want to keep it on the market then perhaps agree which days of the week you can facilitate bookings so that the EA doesn't put you at everyone's beck and call.

Back to school soon, that will make things easier.

SaulHudsonDavidJones · 12/08/2024 12:21

When we sold our house it was in pristine condition where possible (as in, we couldn't update the old kitchen but you could eat off the benches they were so clean). Generally I don't like going anywhere that's not clean but it would make me feel unfavourable about a house I was viewing. Or I'd think ' They just want a quick sale so put in a lowball offer'.

Strictlymad · 12/08/2024 12:19

Flossyts · 12/08/2024 10:41

I’ve sold 4 houses and they have been as clean, tidy and clutter free as possible.

you are selling a lifestyle as well as a home. By leaving clutter everywhere, you may give the message that it hasn’t got enough storage. Also, when someone can’t be bothered to make it cleans and tidy, it makes me wonder whether they haven’t bothered with general upkeep either.

He’s being daft.

This! Not workable space etc, no room for clothes.
we recently moved and the absolute hell hole houses were an immediate no. When you can’t pick your way round to see out the windows why bother looking roun the rest of it.
one house said we couldn’t look in loft or shed, we took our asking price offer off the table

OrwellianTimes · 12/08/2024 12:18

I’m house hunting at the moment and messy house pictures immediately put me off. If they can’t be bothered to clean I can’t imagine they’ve been bothered to keep the house maintained.

Normal life clutter doesn’t worry me, but I’ve seen some shocking pictures.

blueshoes · 12/08/2024 12:18

I would not buy a messy house unless it was at a knock down price for the location and I had plans to do it up.

Sorry but I don't want to see people's lives around me. The state it is in indicates the owners do not take care and query what other things could be lurking.

All the houses I have seen are immaculate in their listings and on visits. Then again, those owners were aiming for a good price.

SuziQuinto · 12/08/2024 12:16

Westfacing · 12/08/2024 12:16

I went to view a flat and the guy didn't even get out of bed!

That's brilliant! Did you just walk round him to look at the room

Westfacing · 12/08/2024 12:16

I went to view a flat and the guy didn't even get out of bed!

Ezekiela · 12/08/2024 12:15

If I viewed a messy house, I would assume either as PP suggested, that the vendors might have neglected maintenance of the property, or alternatively that they didn't really want to sell, and therefore were likely to be obstructive further down the line.

I would have to REALLY love the property to make an offer, and even if I did, it would most likely be a low one.

SuziQuinto · 12/08/2024 12:14

Cosyblankets · 12/08/2024 12:10

I don't think the house sale is the issue here.
The issue is either the fact that you have different standards or that he sees it as your job

Yes, I think that's the problem.

SuziQuinto · 12/08/2024 12:13

I'm going to go against the grain here, a bit. We bought our current home from a couple who had toddler twins and the woman was pregnant. There was mess and toys everywhere. Clothes hanging from the bannisters, stuff all over every surface.
We bought it because we could tell it was a good house, in an excellent area, for a fair price. It was a great decision.
Plus - when they moved out it looked spacious!

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