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NeedSomeAnswersPlease · 11/08/2024 17:44

Travelling to the Netherlands for the Dutch Grand Prix in ten days or so

We (stupidly) booked to travel hand luggage only and I just don't understand how it's possible! The amount of things you need, I'll be due on my period that weekend too so need to take extra bits for that as well. I know everyone's answer will be "just take less clothes" but it all seems to accumulate - shorts, t-shirts, a dress or two for if we want to go out in the evening, it's not possible!😩

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S00LA · 12/08/2024 16:02

My dear @NeedSomeAnswersPlease , I say this kindly - your problem is your mental attitudes and not your holiday plans.

You need to learn how to handwash small clothes items like underwear .

You need to get over some of your issue, like your father seeing underwear drying. I assume he’s has sex at least once so he must know that women wear underwear.

If you are having regular leaks during your period then you need to look at other types of San pro that might work better for you.

You can re wear most clothes and shoes. Please see my comment about “stinking “ upthread .

You don’t need a complete new outfit for every day, let alone two outfits.

Rain in the Netherlands in August doesn't mean it will be freezing cold. You need several thin layers and waterproofs, not one thick layer.

Shops in the Netherlands are just like those in the UK.

You need to learn to simplify your complicated hairstyling and beauty routine, even for a few days on holiday. This will free up more time and space for you to enjoy yourself.

You can cope with something that is less than perfect for a few days , like a hairdryers that is not your own and only one hairbrush for blow drying. You can look nice without looking like a model on a shoot.

You can learn to do without so much stuff for one weekend. It’s not about “making sacrifices “, it’s about being more free to enjoy the experience. Somewhere you have picked up the idea that stuff = happiness/ security.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 12/08/2024 15:58

Yes I am sure there are some people who can pack light and look glam. That’s not me unfortunately. Sorry, I didn’t meant to make you feel sad! You are in the majority on this thread anyway; lots of light efficient packers here!

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Now catching up with all the thread I have to say I'm finding everyone's suggestions helpful and inspiring. Especially like the idea for considering packing an item when I buy something new. True, sometimes you'll have specific requirements but in many cases I think this could work.

learieonthewildmoor · 12/08/2024 15:12

Hope I’m not repeating someone else’s advice.
Try 54321 packing: 5 tops, 4 bottoms, 3 dresses and shoes, 2 jackets, 1 hat.
Some people put jackets in the tops and say 2 accessories/bags.
I did it for a week long holiday and it worked really well.

S00LA · 12/08/2024 15:11

NeedSomeAnswersPlease · 11/08/2024 22:39

All I can say is you're all superheroes, I'll try my hardest but I expect sacrifices will need to be made (goodbye skincare routine 😪🤣)

Decant some of your skin care products into contact lens cases.

If the weather is variable then you need to pack layers.

If your clothes all stink after one day, you need to wear anti perspirant and shower every day. if that doesn’t work you need to see your doctor. most people can rewear trousers , jeans , skirts , dresses and sweaters / jumpers for several days without any smell.

You have 4 bags ( 2 cabin bags and 2 personal items ) for 4 days in one country. Some people travel the world for a year with less than that.

OolongTeaDrinker · 12/08/2024 15:07

NeedSomeAnswersPlease · 12/08/2024 08:46

Packing list so far is as follows

2 x team shirts
2 x normal tops, for the Friday & flying home
2 x shorts, I will be on my period towards the end of the trip so I don’t know if I'll want to wear my denim shorts or not so taking a back up pair of cycling shorts
8 x pants - I know it seems excessive but like I said I'll be due on my period and my dad won't enjoy seeing my pants washed and dried in the apartment!
4 x socks
1 x sandals for if we do go out of an evening
1 or 2 dresses for the evening
A spare pair of trainers if I have the room

Toiletries:
Face wash
Moisturiser
Retinol
SPF
Deodorant
Tiny shampoo & conditioner - I have extensions so can't just grab a cheap bottle in the supermarket
Toothbrush & toothpaste
Makeup - concealer, foundation, brow gel & mascara

Others:
Book (or 2)
Phone & charger
Portable charger & charger
Watch & charger
Radio & headphones for the race
First aid etc

That doesn't sound excessive, but should easily fit in a cabin sized suitcase - what kind of bag do you have? The Eastpak one I linked to before would fit all of that easily and you can take chargers, headphones and books in your small cabin handbag.

Uncool · 12/08/2024 15:06

BettyBardMacDonald · 12/08/2024 14:57

I agree but a race weekend with long days at the venue isn't a typical holiday. A focus on functionality and practicality can be useful.

yes, I admit I am unfamiliar with this kind of holiday. I reckon wearing a team shirt would not be for me anyway ;-)

Uncool · 12/08/2024 15:03

dizzydizzydizzy · 12/08/2024 14:03

Not really. I had a pair of black silk trousers and a nice blouse that I could wear for going somewhere smart.

My other set of clothes was probably more what you are imagining. - lightweight cargos and a shirt.

i’m saddened my comments
are being dismissed. My friend who is a glamour girl and a big traveller always considers traveling when she buys clothes. She is always looking to buy lightweight dresses that don’t need ironing’. She works on. Similar principles and likes going to Venice.

Yes I am sure there are some people who can pack light and look glam. That’s not me unfortunately. Sorry, I didn’t meant to make you feel sad! You are in the majority on this thread anyway; lots of light efficient packers here!

BettyBardMacDonald · 12/08/2024 14:57

Uncool · 12/08/2024 13:44

I would hate to just pack boring and functional clothes for holiday. That wouldn’t work for me 😳

I agree but a race weekend with long days at the venue isn't a typical holiday. A focus on functionality and practicality can be useful.

Uncool · 12/08/2024 14:49

Divebar2021 · 12/08/2024 08:15

Well yes… anyone can pack light if they don’t care too much about style. Saying to someone who is very obviously into clothes / style “ just don’t wear make up and let your hair dry naturally and why not get some walking trousers that zip off at the knee” isn’t really going to cut it. I can pack on hand luggage ok but I have to spend time working it out. Im going to Italy on hand luggage in a month but I’m already planning the clothes on Stylebook. I see it as a style challenge rather than a deprivation. It sounds like your days will be long so something comfortable for wearing with the shirts . ( shorts / trousers ) What’s happening in the evening? Out for dinner or something else? I’d probably pick items that consistently feel nice to wear. I have a T shirt dress from Cos and some Teva sandals that are so comfortable and I love so I’d would happily wear them all the time. Those are my must haves so I’d probably start from there. I have short hair and I need straighteners but I have mini ones. If you have long hair and you feel nice with it tied back do that - it’s chic. I don’t need much make up - My must haves are concealer, mascara and a lip colour. I’ve got some products from Nudistix & a small palette from Jones Road but lots of products do double duty. If it’s hot a light fragrance is nice — a tester or small bottle - Stories do little perfume oils with a roller but I did buy a collection of small spray bottles from Amazon that are useful for liquids. I don’t wear tons of jewellery usually so it’s a nice to have for me not a must have. Sunglasses make a big difference for me so I’d say a pair is a must have. Practical bag is a must have but you only need one. Jacket is a must have but can be worn for the flight. ( choose one with pockets). Hat may be a must have or nice to have depending on the weather forecast but again wear it there. Underwear…. Well obviously only you know if that’s a must have. I’d take a tiny nightie or sleep in the buff. Really your main style decisions will be evening time and that comes down to how creative you can be with the smallest amount of items.

Saying to someone who is very obviously into clothes / style “ just don’t wear make up and let your hair dry naturally and why not get some walking trousers that zip off at the knee” isn’t really going to cut it

Ha so true!

Uncool · 12/08/2024 14:42

avignon1234 · 12/08/2024 04:02

Lots of good advice on here, and without sounding like a dick or an obsessive I did 6 weeks in Souh East Asia with hand-baggage only aged 57 (so not a backpacker so to speak) The main problems are shoes and tech, and then your desire (or otherwise) to wash things - I recycled the same 3 knickers and socks for 6 weeks, shower and deoderant before clothes, no-one (other than you) cares if you are in the same clothes. The joy of just lifting your little backpack and walking out of multiple airports whilst others are waiting in the baggage reclaim is brilliant. It takes discipline but can be done. Strangely, I think it is harder to go for 4 nights than 6 weeks. You know when you have 6 weeks you have to do it. "stuff" is available nearly everywhere. Most airports have a "boots" type place. Good luck xx

no-one (other than you) cares if you are in the same clothes

The problem is when ‘you’ love clothes and fashion and want to wear nice outfits on holiday! Packing would be easier if I didn’t care!

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 12/08/2024 14:17

We did once manage 5 days in Rome hand luggage only but were lucky that weather was consistently warm. As a pp did I decanted almost every toiletry item into tiny bottles and cream pots I've collected over the years (the ones you get in beauty advent calendars are useful). Also Feel Unique or Look Fantastic used to do an excellent deal where you choose x 5 sachet or sample sizes for a fiver including postage and that £ is put on your account as a credit so they were basically free! Especially useful for say, nice body lotion, which I can't travel without.

Scaredycat259 · 12/08/2024 14:15

Depends how long you are going for.
We went for a long weekend in Amsterdam in October, 10kg hand luggage only each, I took 2 spare tops, 1 jumper, I pair jeans , undies socks, mini deo shower gel etc and a book and had to re-wear what I travelled in.

NeedSomeAnswersPlease · 12/08/2024 14:14

@tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz I'm going to guess it's because they don't tend to use it and it's mainly sold to tourists, and/or they import certain brands for tourists to use

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tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 12/08/2024 14:13

suburburban · 12/08/2024 14:11

I find the sun creams are weighty

I need a lot and would rather over pack as they are often more expensive abroad

I always decant toiletries

God yes €14 euros for a bottle that would cost a fiver at home! Why is sun cream often so expensive in Europe I wonder?!

NeedSomeAnswersPlease · 12/08/2024 14:12

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 12/08/2024 14:10

We've just got back from holiday staying in a small village in Sicily where the only place to get the deo I'd forgotten to buy was in a pharmacy where a can of Nivea cost me €7 Confused.

This is the thing it's all so expensive to then leave behind 😩 this is a painful life lesson 🤣

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MintyNew · 12/08/2024 14:11

I also can't pack light! But the last few trips I did manage to pack smarter. I bought a scrubba - and did a few essentials every other day. So underwear, pyjamas and T-shirts. This helped a lot space wise.

Also check if there's a laundry collect and drop off service that is local and reliable. We did that for one trip. Half way through sent a huge load and was picked and dropped off all ironed and fresh.

Shoes are a big space waster - so get dressier sandals that's for day and night use, use trainers to fly with, and just 1/2 other as an option. We like to shop as well wherever we travel so I make sure to leave space for that.

suburburban · 12/08/2024 14:11

I find the sun creams are weighty

I need a lot and would rather over pack as they are often more expensive abroad

I always decant toiletries

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 12/08/2024 14:10

We've just got back from holiday staying in a small village in Sicily where the only place to get the deo I'd forgotten to buy was in a pharmacy where a can of Nivea cost me €7 Confused.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 12/08/2024 14:05

Uncool · 11/08/2024 18:07

I can’t pack light, but I don’t want to. I love my clothes and I love having my creature comforts to hand. Sorry, no tips from me!

This is me ... I truly admire those who can pack this light but to me it always = drab outfits when I'm on holiday and want to look my best.

Disclaimer / there are of course some clever folks who can do carry on packing and look fab such as Alyssa Beltempo. She rocks

Hedjwitch · 12/08/2024 14:04

I travel very light but am low maintenance/ scruffy. No make up,no hair dryer or tongs. Take a bar of soap and a shampoo bar. Wear heaviest clothes to travel...jumper/ coat / boots or shoes. Sleep in knickers and tshirt so dont need pjs. Stuff knickers and socks into second pair of shoes if taking secod pair. Clothes can be worn more than once unless v hot weather. Thin tshirts roll up. Shorts for day wear. One dress/skirt.
Job done.

dizzydizzydizzy · 12/08/2024 14:03

Uncool · 12/08/2024 13:48

I think backpacking calls for slightly different clothes compared to a trip to somewhere nice where you will be going out for dinner etc. There is no way I would wear a fleece in the evening on holiday! Backpacking fine!

Not really. I had a pair of black silk trousers and a nice blouse that I could wear for going somewhere smart.

My other set of clothes was probably more what you are imagining. - lightweight cargos and a shirt.

i’m saddened my comments
are being dismissed. My friend who is a glamour girl and a big traveller always considers traveling when she buys clothes. She is always looking to buy lightweight dresses that don’t need ironing’. She works on. Similar principles and likes going to Venice.

MotherWol · 12/08/2024 14:02

NeedSomeAnswersPlease · 12/08/2024 10:03

Oops 🙊

Honestly I'm just hopeless and I wish I understood how you can it off without having spare pants or a spare t-shirt - what if you spill?🤣🤣

See, this is the thing - I'd rather deal with a 10% chance that I have to wash my clothes/buy something when I'm out there than a 100% chance that I'll have a heavy bag to carry that's got loads of stuff I don't use in it. I actually really enjoy packing light and agree with the person who said it's fun to challenge themself - but that's probably either something you enjoy or you don't, and you can't force it if you don't feel it.

For some people, the desire to have multiple outfits/accessories/all the bells and whistles outweighs the inconvenience of packing heavier, for others (me!) they get actively annoyed by the sight of things they've packed and didn't use. As long as I've got my passport and money, I can wing it!

gardenmusic · 12/08/2024 13:58

Take advantage of a largish handbag. Use it for spare shoes, cardigan, fold up waterproof jacket, book if taking, as well as your usual handbag stuff.

Probably too late for this trip, but future planning, lightweight travel trousers instead of jeans - Craghopper, Rohan etc. Coats that pack into their own pockets.

NeedSomeAnswersPlease · 12/08/2024 13:54

Lincslady53 · 12/08/2024 13:53

We find going on a summer hot break is easy. Toiletries and shoes are the weight killers, but as long as we gave a hairdryer in our accommodation, find it quite easy. It is easy to quickly wash clothes in the washbasin and they dry quickly. If the place we are going is cooler, then it is more difficult, with thicker clothes and no chance of drying them quickly.

This is the issue, it's set to be rainy from what I can tell (although it is changing by the day) and that means all the clothes need to be thicker

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Lincslady53 · 12/08/2024 13:53

We find going on a summer hot break is easy. Toiletries and shoes are the weight killers, but as long as we gave a hairdryer in our accommodation, find it quite easy. It is easy to quickly wash clothes in the washbasin and they dry quickly. If the place we are going is cooler, then it is more difficult, with thicker clothes and no chance of drying them quickly.

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