TW - Upsetting information: XL Bully attack *edited by MNHQ

The thing is, most dogs are softies. Until they aren’t.

It will have been hushed up against the background of rioting.

The last thing the police need is a mob of people seeking out these dogs although unless something is done soon, that is what will be needed.

I agree that a program of mass euthanasia needs to be put in place, sad as that is for a large percentage of them that would barely bite a good dinner.

Recently I have met 5 XL bully’s - they have all been absolute softies. Honestly even I was shocked.

I have also recently met several other medium size dogs with more aggression than you can shake a stick at. Whilst yes they might/might not cause as much damage they will certainly cause some serious damage if they bite.

Genetics and poor ownership have a lot to blame in this.

All of those demons should be killed.

These dogs give off a similar physical vibe to racehorses. You know when you have seen ponies in a field, maybe been allowed to give one an apple… ah, sweet.

Then a racehorse gallops by, with sinew, muscle and veins bulging. The ground vibrates under their hooves and you feel them pass and thank god you weren’t in the way! Massive muscular beasts that make ponies look like sheep.

That’s the feel I get from XLs, but with carnivore teeth and aggression added in!

@Enchantedlilypad I agree my SIL had (he was recently put to sleep) a Staff he was a fab dog and extremely friendly and loving but only to people, if he saw another dog it was a different story and he would instantly become aggressive. SIL was a good responsible owner and had the Staff since he was a tiny pup, she tried to socialise him but quickly realised he could not be around other dogs so he was always kept on a lead and she would check that my dog wasn't around if she was bringing him with her to visit other family members. We knew he was at the end of his life when she turned up with her Staff not knowing I was visiting a relative and he didn't even acknowledge my dog was there. It isn't the owner it's the dog and you cannot have a dog that is bred for aggression and expect it to behave any differently.

No, the problem is the breed.

Of course owners have a role to play with any dog but the whole point is that this would never have happened with two daschunds. Or. Lab. Or even the crackpot untrained border terrorist that lives on my road and has got away with attacking other dogs for years because he can't physically do that much damage (although he believes he can). He's on a muzzle etc now.

Humans do not have full control or dominion over animals despite some enjoying this delusion, and some breeds/ species are more suitable as pets than others. This breed has proved itself dangerous and that's all there is to it so more needs to be done.

Yes, I can see what you’re saying (not sure the need for the laughing emojis, not sure it’s that funny a subject) and I agree with what your saying.

Believe me, I would euthanise them all although it’s a huge taboo to say that. I don’t think I’ve met one I’ve trusted to be honest and almost every one has danger markers the owners don’t notice. But on the other hand there’s another huge amount of XL bully owners whose dogs are showing aggression or have attacked who don’t euthanise. also those who still refuse to neuter or follow the law. These are the ones that run away from incidents or hide the dogs or excuse the behaviour.

So yes, in a fucked up way it is the responsible ones euthanising.

In the Midlands a.man was killed by an xl when he tried to.stop it killing his dog. They are just too strong and seem to be all owned by idiots who can't or wo t control them.

Obviously something needs to be done. I'd like to see this breed and other dangerous agressive breeds of dogs off our streets for ever. Should this dog have been muzzled. Why are these dangerous killers allowed to roam freely.

I love dogs but XL Bullies (and a few more breeds) should be banned. They’re absolutely terrifying. There are a number near me. I often see them out unmuzzled, with their owners (grown men) struggling to hold them. They’re only popular amongst people who should never own a dog in the first place IMO, and I can’t understand the popularity.

XL Bullies, Canó Corsos, etc should all be banned. Dogs like Rottweilers, Dobermans, etc, should need a special licence, only gained after a training course and if the person’s home situation is suitable. Staffies have been misused and wrongly bred too and, again, attract the brainless (even though they’re also owned by a number of responsible people) so, again, there should be some kind of control over them and their breeding and ownership.

I know any dog can bite, but I think it would be best to have an approved list of pet dogs which most people can choose from, with other breeds needing extra assessment and licensing prior to ownership - not just because some breeds might be aggressive, but because there are breeds living in urban environments, hardly ever taken for appropriate exercise, that would be better off having some kind of control over who owns them.

Someone near me owns one and a Staff, I have a very tiny 3kg dog. I came across the guy a couple weeks ago walking both no muzzle on along a quiet footpath. Both dogs instantly started pulling the man towards us and it wasn't the friendly vibe you get when another dog pulls to come over and say hi, they were aggressive and this man was pulling with all his strength to keep them away, all that needed to happen was him losing his balance, or the dogs slipping the collar and they would have attacked me and my dog. I hate the bloody things and the idiots that buy them should be ashamed of themselves for putting their families and the public on danger.

It's not even like you could do anything else with them. You couldn't have them as a farm breed either could you? Herd of cows, yep they are dead, fluffy sheep yep they are dead. Farmers have to put signage up if a bull is in a field near footpaths and right of way. You'd have no chance with an XL in a field.

This ban seems to have made no difference to the volume of attacks at all .
That bully has totally ruined the life of the dachshund , how is it expected to live with two legs , may have been better to euthanise.
I hope the XL is put down .

I’m a dog lover but these are not suitable as pet dogs. They just can’t be in domestic situations.
I’m afraid a cull is the only solution. The dogs are sedated before the final injection so know nothing.

Indeed. Come across an idiot who can't control their Jack Russell and you might need to give it a few good boots with your foot to dislodge it.

Come across an idiot who can't control one of these dogs and you or another passer-by has had it.

It's often the breed AND the owner. There's usually a correlation. I've never seen an XL bully at dog training classes.

Indeed. I have a friend with a Pom with a bad attitude. I wouldn't allow my children near it in case it nips their hands (though tbf it quite likes children). When I visit her, I occasionally have to move the thing away from me with my foot and it's an annoying little blighter, but I can honestly say I've never felt in mortal peril from it 🙄.

What?? 😂😂 ‘It’s the responsible owners making the decision’….. to euthanise their aggressive dogs after they’ve attacked or killed? That’s how your post reads but surely that’s not what you’re saying. It’s irresponsible to own these dogs, not just to not decide to euthanise them. Deciding to euthanise them is too little too late.

Due to the strength and size of this breed and high levels of aggression, it takes a very high level of training which is very demanding to control this type of breed. Even someone who is experienced with dogs who would know how to train many breeds would need a superior level of training and dedication. Even then, controlling the aggression and looking after them is a full time job. It can be done but it's far too risky to trust even 99% people with this breed no matter how good their intentions are.

One was on a lead no muzzle with a young woman running down the road with it, it was in front and she had no control. People were jumping off the pavements avoid. We live on a residential street. I have joined 2 at a house down the road barking and jumping at the window as people go by.

That one isn’t even as big as the one that lives in my area. It’s like a bloody donkey. I’ve never seen such a big dog. I’m terrified of it

Are you allowed to share the just giving page?

I am a complete dog lover and I have a sausage dog and a Staffordshire bull terrier. I don't agree with the "there's no bad dogs only bad owners" comments, we took our Staffordshire bull terrier to puppy training classes, socialised her, have had numerous dog trainers and keep her on a lead when out walking but she is naturally aggressive to other dogs, I consider myself a responsible dog owner who did nothing to make her dog aggressive (she is amazing with humans and has never growled at anyone)

Some people are awful dog owners and bring out an aggressive side to the dog but some dogs are born naturally aggressive to dogs/humans.

I do agree that XL bullies should be banned though as it does seem the majority of attacks are from these dogs.

It is completely the breed. No amount of dog trainers would ever train the instinct of killing and mauling out of them. They were bred to be massive muscle machines. The difference being most want to be dog owners have a brain at not having this breed because they weren't designed to be a pet. That leaves idiots who couldn't even control or train a Jack Russel owning these breeds. Unfortunately this is what happens when you allow a load of Muppets to breed 'a super dog' for certain characteristics. The whole breed needs to be rounded up and euthanised. How many are still sat in homes unregistered because the owners can't be arsed or think that theirs is a softie so they don't want to label it?