TW - Upsetting information: XL Bully attack *edited by MNHQ

Oh goodness the Reddit Pitbull/XLB site is so relentlessly depressing.
Horrific injuries.
I went on it after my XLB incident
One blurred pic was called NSFL

I had no idea what that acronym meant and clicked
and almost vomited

A poor man had had his face torn off but was still alive.
He was an innocent passer by attacked by these vile dogs.

The poor man died , unsurprisingly.

There are endless incidents of children maimed by escaped Pits / XLB’s

They aren’t like other dogs

They have even partially consumed their owners.

The owners I feel less sorry for as they had the ignorance to take one or more on with jaw jutting arrogance, and reaped the consequences of their Ill- considered choices.

And as my post demonstrates, those 99%+ of owners you mention are absolutely correct. Their dogs have not, do not and never will hurt anyone. They aren't pretending anything.

As the stats show, the breed is not inherently aggressive. You're just not paying attention because you are determined that the problem is with the dogs and decline to hear anything else. I'm not surprised, people don't like to admit they are wrong.

I'm not an XL Bully owner, so I have zero skin in this game, and if you read to the end of my post, you'll see you are making the same conclusion I did - some people cannot be trusted to be responsible dog owners of large and powerful dogs, which is why the ban was unfortunate but the correct thing to do. However, there's no need for people to label the breed as inherently aggressive when they clearly aren't.

I have heard that saying and where you have a yappy little dog who could be trained not to bite peoples ankles and not to bark all the time which could be put down to bad ownership, this is nothing like it. There is no training any owner could do to prevent these dogs from doing what they have been doing and it's pure arrogance of any owner who has one of these dogs that say "oh my dog is so soft and I'm a brilliant owner" human stupidity at its finest

You're right I hadn't thought it through properly, even so a civilized society shouldn't allow people to keep dangerous animals as pets.
We can't rely on people having good judgment or being good owners because so many people have their rose tinted spectacles glued to their faces when it comes to dogs.
And no matter how good of an owner you are you will not be able to restrain your dog if it tries to attack, it's too powerful even for a fully grown adult man to restrain. Ergo it can never be a pet. A pet, by definition, is submissive and under the control of its owner.

Not rtft but if ever a dog attacks your dog or a person try and grab its collar and twist it as hard as you can. The dog will let go in order to breathe. If no collar try and use your lead or a belt to choke it.
I really hope you are never in this situation but we know it does happen.

I saw one last week sitting at the front door of someone's house, if it wanted to it could have got out , it's because they are so powerful and mostly belong to a certain type of person that these attacks happen.
Some people should not be allowed to have dogs full stop, whatever it does is the owner's responsibility and tbey should have their dog pts , fined and banned from keeping dogs, do they realise how traumatic an attack on your dog/ child etc is.
Something needs to change now to stop this it's far too common these days , I e also seen them unmuzzled as some owners just don't care about time or anything else , so sad for that poor dog and the owner.

It was an awful way to die, no doubt. She was a full on pit apologist though, and risked the rest of us through her choices. I am glad it was her and not some innocent passer-by.
Of course she lacked intelligence, and I agree with you that that is why we need a total ban on these breeds, and not trust our fellow humans to make good choices.

I think some people probably grew up surrounded by many others who feel those dogs are safe and so they grew up believing that too. It was normalised to have whatever was the strongest most intimidating breed.

But I do feel there’s a lot of them that know fine well the dog is very dangerous, but the issue is they are smug in the belief that others are at risk - which they don’t care about as much - and they believe it won’t turn on them.

I do still feel very sad for owners when dogs kill them, it’s a horrid way to die, aside from the pain it must be soul destroying to see your pet turn like this, as you lie there dying.

Of course rather them than an innocent man woman or child going about their business. People like this not only signed themselves up to the risk, but also signed up their neighbours/the public to the risk of their dogs.

It’s unpleasant to think of when I read these cases I can’t help thinking if the dog hadn’t turned on its owner, it could later have killed someone else :/

Regarding Nicole Morey, I understand why people don't have sympathy for her but I still think it's awful and horrifying that anyone should be torn apart by a dog like that.
I can only assume that she lacked the intelligence/judgement required to evaluate the danger posed by the animal.
As has been pointed out on this thread the owners of these dogs appear to be mostly barely literate, they lack the intelligence required to understand the dangers pose by these animals.
All Pitbull type dogs and other dogs with the capacity to maul and kill humans should be banned. They are not suited to being kept as domestic pets.

Yes, it's way worse there, multiple attacks, multiple deaths.
I follow the case of Baby JJ, and Justin Gilstrap, among others. Both mauled by bully breed dogs in their neighbourhoods. Facially disfigured for life. Justin was scalped. I HATE these damn dogs.

Awful just awful. As I understand it the situation is much worse in the USA.
I used to go on the Reddit forum but I can't go there anymore, it's too distressing see attack after attack after attack and then people still want to have these awful creatures as pets.

Bully-breed apologists, watch this, and tell me those damn dogs are worth it:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1202252484157370

Anyone who supports XLs being allowed to live should watch the Ian Price footage, and the Nicole Morey footage. I have only seen the latter - her being the owner, and a pit nutter at that, I had zero sympathy. Ian Price did not deserve what happened to him, and I have heard it is more gruesome than the Nicole Morey footage, so I can't watch that. But I hate bully breeds, and don't need to know more about the damage they cause. If you support bully breeds, you ought to see what you are supporting.

The current BSL doesn't work, because it doesn't go far enough. I would gladly see all those pitbull breeds wiped off the face of the earth. Maybe we can feed them to the lions in the zoo, make some use of them.

I follow a few fb groups/pages that track dog attacks, and most are bully breeds. Of the people that come on to defend them, they ALL have appalling grammar/spelling, can't write properly at all, and there is a clear show of low intelligence from every single one.

A friend of mine has two, from the same litter and they are genuinely loving and soft dogs. BUT I would never have one as I'm too small to be able to control it.
She is not a chav, she just likes them. They are muzzled and registered. I grew up with German Shepards, Rottweilers, Dobermans, cane Corso (my friend has 4 but lives rurally in Spain), English bulldog (soppiest dog I've ever met) and Dorgue de Bordeaux with no problems. These XL bullies are aggressive by nature and huge and powerful.
I hope that the 'breed' dies out.

There's no safe place for this breed. The new rules for muzzling in public helps but these attacks will continue within homes and as in this sad case when they escape and run out. I feel for the dogs who have been bred as it's not their fault but they should be removed and pts.

Our Practice says exactly the same thing - XLB's are not wired right.

Don't be so fucking rude.

If you're this emotional that you can't control yourself I suggest you don't start posts about personal issues.

all XLs need to be euthanised as soon as possible

This time last year an XLB charged at us- it's female owner screamed at it and had zero control.

I had to release the two dogs I had on leads - It's too emotionally exhausting to go over what happened, but I was injured trying to catch the XLB as it had my little dog cornered in a part of the field.

The owner seemed afraid of it and wouldn't catch it.

Mercifully my dog escaped, {she's nimble} but wouldn't leave my side- Friend's dog bolted.

I phoned the Dog Warden about my friend's missing dog - Thankfully a lovely street sweeper saw her running terrified, and captured her with a bit of his sandwich and called the Dog warden.

Dog Warden was so lovely. He said that releasing the two dogs I had on leads was the only option.

XLB's he says are dangerous and unpredictable, and that they had taken quite a few in ''just to get them out of the community'' {2023}

He said the last thing they want is for an unmanageable dog to be passed on via social media to the ''He's a big softie'' brigade.

This was shortly before Ian Price was torn apart by two escaped XLB's

The dog world is in chaos at the moment
@tsmainsqueeze would you be able to elaborate on this, or tell us how you see things panning out in the future?🙏

No, in fact these dogs (and their owners) are twats. I’m taking back the snorkels.

Ah you're just a twat. Got it.