TW - Upsetting information: XL Bully attack *edited by MNHQ

Devil dogs should be banned outright and eventually, all dogs.

Well we reported the attack on the cat to the police at the time (it was a good few months before the ban on XL bullies was announced), in all honesty I didn't think the police would care about it, but they were great. I think they could tell how awful and not normal it felt. Unfortunately there wasn't much they could do at that time though because we didn't know where the owners lived or much info about them other than having seen them walking around (we lived on a large housing estate). The police came out and interviewed us and did seem to take it seriously, saying that they would investigate, i.e. not fob us off with "dogs will be dogs", but they didn't have much to go off.

There was another incident where Police were doing patrols and telling anyone walking their dogs in the area to go home right away immediately afterwards as the dog had got loose, which matched the same description as the XL Bully. It was very dramatic and scary. Then I heard from another neighbour a month or two later that there had been another attack by the same dog, and it had killed another dog. People were terrified to walk their dogs. I don't know about the fate of the XL Bully after that second attack, and we've now moved away - Thank goodness!

That’s awful! But if the police took the attack on the cat seriously, why was the dog then able to go on and kill another dog??

The people who haven't seen these dogs attack are blissful in their ignorance of what an XL Bully attack looks like... There is no stopping them, and if you try you risk being mauled or killed yourself. You may be able to choke it but I definitely wouldn't have wanted to try. I'm not sure I would have been strong enough either.

Yes other dogs attack, and dog-on-dog attacks happen, and cats are killed by dogs all the time. The difference is when the animal being attacked is injured or killed, the attacking dog stops. They have inhibition. In the vast majority of cases, it's a bite to the jugular and they stop. XL Bully attacks are completely different. They just don't stop attacking, even if the animal or person is clearly no longer able to fight back. They literally tear whatever they are attacking to shreds. And often they are unprovoked.

I am a dog lover, but I am terrified of them. The attack I saw by an XL Bully where it literally tore the neighbours cat to shreds in the street has traumatised me. And that dog lives with three small children. The police took the attack very seriously, because they understand how dangerous these dogs are, and we now know the dog has attacked and killed another dog being walked by its owner in the street, completely unprovoked.

It is terrifying.

Unfortunately you are right, probably the best option if you are attacked is to offer it your throat in order to get it over with quickly ☹️
Our best hope is that those which are in existence will soon attack and kill their owners and are then destroyed ☹️
A little while back I saw a video where a black and white XL bully (which reminded me of a killer whale) had a smaller dog in its jaws, the small dog was screaming. A woman who appeared to be the owner of the XL bully got behind it pulled up on its lead the animal lost consciousness and let go.
I searched on YouTube for this video, numerous other videos of these dogs attacking people came up. I couldn't face scrolling through it all so I didn't find the one I was looking for☹️

@HettieBettyBoo I am so so sorry to hear of your utterly horrific experience and you are completely right in your opinion. I can’t imagine how awful that day was.
@FuriosFancyShirt I was only trying to offer some advice as stated by dog trainers and it might be useful if a smaller - ie average sized - dog attacks yours.
Ultimately there is a lot of evidence to show that the XL have a genetic trait which makes them unstable and their size (and rage) make them unstoppable.
Im not convinced a muzzle would prevent them seriously harming a child or dog.

Awful story. Sorry you went through that.
always makes me laugh when people say “choke it” “twist it’s collar” etc etc

I’ve seen a video of one of these animals being shot multiple times by armed police and the fucker still didn’t stop

I’ve also seen one where a dog was shot in the head. It fell to the ground and “died” only for it to suddenly wake up, stumble back to its feet and carry on attacking as if nothing had happened. The gun shot to head had simply stunned it for a few seconds.

nobody is going to choke one of these animals out.

children who live in homes with violent men may (rightly) be removed from that home. This should also be the case if they are forced to live with a dangerous dog eg XL Bully.

I can assure you choking these dogs doesn’t work. When my dog was attacked the thing was in full attack mode, grabbing a collar also doesn’t work. Believe me we tried. The thing was walloped with fence posts in the ribs, booted in the balls, had its back legs grabbed and still it never let go of my dog. It was eventually dragged to a river with my dog still in its jaws. I won’t go into details but it never survived. Edited at this part to say no I’m not sorry how it died nor do DH or I feel one shred of guilt as we were both involved.

These things are machines and once they attack they don’t stop. Please don’t minimise how powerful or aggressive they are. My DH is 18 stone of muscle and he couldn’t get the thing off. I live every day with the trauma of that attack, I have terrible flashbacks and dreams about it. My DH has the scars on his arms and legs from it. People say “oh they’re not all like that” Personally, after what I witnessed I wouldn’t trust an XL bully as far as I could spit it and I find it difficult to know that people keep these things who have children.

The owner of the dog was wild camping and gave a false address to the police. The reg of the van they were driving shows it was scrapped 2 weeks after the attack.

I have witnessed so many of these things not muzzled where we live, so many people bring them to visit our area and think because we’re very rural they can allow them to run free. I am not ashamed to admit that every single one I see unmuzzled is reported to the police.

My dog that was killed was my lifeline, he made my life easier, I could venture out with him, he gave me independence, he was my ears because I’m deaf.

Am I bitter? Definitely. Is my opinion of these dogs skewed? Probably. However, I think I have a good reason for my opinions on these abominations of dogs.

Quite this. I don't think I've ever seen a proper dog fight in 30 years of dealing with dogs. Sure, there has been argy bargy, and a few that were approaching being OTT, but mostly they've just been finding their own level, or telling another dog off for being overly enthusiastic.

XL's are a whole different argument though due to ridiculous breeding.

That is down to the owner. An elderly dog... maybe PTS. A young one with its whole life ahead of it - owner probably decided to give them a chance.
Dogs are not like people where they are incapacitated for months on end after losing a limb. Animals bounce back rather quickly.
Up to the owner anyway, and I don't think trying to shame them is helpful.

I would put my dogs to sleep if they had their legs ripped off, no dog should suffer that.

There’s several near me that get walked by their young male owners who probably are half the weight of the dogs, none of them use leads or muzzles. This isn’t even in a park. They are walking the streets with no leads. I’m becoming so scared to take my little dog out for fear of bumping into one. I am scared to turn corners in case we bump into them, have had a couple of close calls.

The thing that gets me is the amount of idiots that think it’s ok to own one, and are all “oh they’re misunderstood, mine would never attack etc etc”

Until they do, because they’re so unpredictable. And even with the law around muzzling when out and about doesn’t stop one escaping their owner’s house and attacking the first animal/child/adult they come across. None of us have ANY control over that. I don’t walk around in fear or anything, but this could literally happen at any moment!

I am shocked there are people defending keeping these dogs as family pets, they’re usually in totally inappropriate living accommodation.
I could see an argument for an experienced dog owner who has studied dog behaviour and has access to space both inside and outside.
As a standard “pet”, they are as unsuitable as having a tiger in a 3 bed terrace in a town centre. Dogs aren’t inherently bad or dangerous which also means those arguments about them being “softies” are bollocks too. That is simply misguided humans projecting our emotions onto animals.

“Its pretty rare for a dog to rip another dog’s legs off”

this sentence sounds so surreal yet so true. You’re wasting your breath with the bully apologists though, they don’t have the intelligence to understand.

Have a look on r/banpitbulls on reddit

Dog on dog attacks happen frequently and are not newsworthy or of interest to the police most of the time.
However it's pretty rare for one dog to rip another dog's legs off. Usually it's a few puncture wounds

Not really - with XL bullies you can get good owner and ordinary dog = attacks.

You can get that with any breed actually. Just the attack is less likely to result in severe injuries. I know of cases of border collies and labradors belonging to good owners who bit someone.

And a good owner will euthanase a dog that is aggressive towards its own family. Lots of people won't do this - they will re-home instead

Having an XL bully for a ‘pet’ is the equivalent of having a Hyena for a pet.

Owners of such animals are completely deluded if they think they have ANY control over it should it decide to attack.

The size and strength of these animals combined with their now evident inbred propensity to fatally attack humans and animals with no provocation or warning means that, imo, they should be treated just as any other undomesticated/wild dangerous animal.

They should NOT be allowed as pets, and any currently living should either be euthanised or live out their life in sanctuaries where human contact is kept to a minimum like dealing with captive tigers and lions.

One of the reasons injuries are so high is the level of dog ownership. When I was at school, maybe one in 20 kids had a dog. Now it’s nearer 50%.

And XLs have bad genes.

And they are bred by ignorant people.

And they are massively effective when they attack.

The PP saying dogs on dog attacks are common but not discussed, we only care because it’s an XL- not entirely true. We all know dog on dog attacks happen- one happened to mine. The difference is when a collie or a couple of spaniels attack another dog, the owners have a good chance of breaking it up before the dog is killed and without risking death themselves.

With an XL, not so much. I mean, I’m amazed they managed to save the dachshund.

There was a post on a local facebook group from a complete scumbag thicko who was going to rehome one of these horrible dogs. She has 3 kids under 12 and lives a completely chaotic life style
She is in court at least monthly, as is whichever bloke she happens to be with at the time. She can barely string a sentence together and is very obviously low IQ. Her post was full of idiots egging her on telling her what a saint she was and if anyone did try to point out how stupid the idea was her little band of idiots were all 'don't you listen to them hun, you've got a big heart, '
Unfortunately when you are up against that level of thick scum you are never going to get through to them. They just don't have the intelligence to understand what they are doing.

It was a dog on dog attack.
Like I said in a PP, they happen all the time. The only reason this one made the news was because it was an XL bully.

It’s the outright stupidity that gets me. I mean, how thick must a person be to not “get” the statistics around this breed.

“it’s bad owners” … well you have “bad owners” of golden retrievers but they don’t tend to go around ripping people to pieces do they? How can anyone not see the logic in this?

“XL Bullies are great with kids” - really? You want a breed that is good with kids so you choose the one breed responsible for more children’s deaths than any other breed? Surely a person must be very hard of thinking to think an XL bully is a good choice when it comes to child friendly breeds?

“other breeds attack, you just don’t hear about it” … I’m pretty sure if a person was ripped to pieces by a Dalmatian, it would be in the news. It would certainly be in the news if a second Dalmatian fatality happened … and then a 3rd … and then a 4th … I’m pretty sure people would then be saying “hang on a minute, there seems to be a problem with Dalmatian’s … “

Seriously people this stupid should not be allowed to walk the streets unsupervised

Not all dachshund have spinal issues, just like not all pugs have breathing issues.

Imagine taking your dog to the vet and being told they will be PTS because of known issues with the breed, that you are not in the vets for to begin with, and they have not had issues with it.