TW - Upsetting information: XL Bully attack *edited by MNHQ

That breeder pisses me of.
Yes, they are being responsible by drawing attention to dangerous bloodlines, keeping a record of them. If they are really being careful to avoid those traits in their own breeding then good for them.
But they undermine that somewhat with their "our dogs are really safe" messaging reinforced with a tiny child sprawled on top of their massive dog. An actually responsible dog person wouldn't be advocating for that or insinuating that their dogs are "safe" for small children to ignore their personal boundaries
It undermines their whole message.

Also "I know you love the dog. You wouldn't spend 2 grand on a dog to treat it like crap". That really isn't always true is it.

Weren't they a scam? Lots of teacup pigs growing into full size pigs.

I hear you but you do also realise that housing isn't as binary as remote barn conversion in the wolds and tower of cramped flats in the city don't you?

A lot of these XL bullies live in the in between and in the countryside.

Dogs should be for people in rural areas, and safe breeds only. Dogs were never meant to be kept cooped up in small city flats.

Lets get rid of those dangerous animals once and for all. No ifs or buts. I'm not interested in why they are killers. I just want them banned.

I completely agree.

Starmer definitely needs to take immediate action. I agree with a total cull of this breed. I would like to see a massive clampdown on dog ownership in general, it has got out of control, it was never meant to be this way.

I truly don't care that a few borderline-looking dogs get culled alongside the actual XLs - what's a few fewer dogs compared to the life of a child mauled/maimed or killed by one of these beasts? I also think all bully breeds have a higher propensity to attack, so they can all go to hell, afaic. Just because the smaller ones don't do quite as much damage as the bigger ones, doesn't mean they deserve to live, and risk the rest of us getting attacked.

Sorry to just quote yourself when I'm sure many others have posted similar, but I think the issue lies with the definition of an XL bully. Since it's a type not a breed, what about those dogs that are just unfortunate enough to fit into the category, ie American bull dog, certain staffy X's, at work we even have a french bulldog X who fits into the category. These dogs could be 8 years old or whatever and never caused a single issue yet then would suddenly be culled? The owners seem to be doing the right things by muzzling with appropriate training and getting the exemption certs etc as they are scared their dogs will be taken and PTS, these dogs if not true 'xl bullys' with the poor breeding from killer kimbo or what his name is/was shouldn't pose a risk?

Starmer needs to do the right thing and order an immediate cull. Owners have one week to take their beast to the vets to get some pink juice, failing that, armed police to shoot on sight. Prison for anyone who doesn't take the dog to the vet.

It’s about time every single one of these dogs was put down. Every fucking week there’s an attack. It’s an absolute joke.

I had to cross the road to avoid an unmuzzled XL today. My 6yo is autistic and terrified of big dogs, his first reaction is to scream when one comes near him.. we know how that would end 😔

I'm trying very hard to redirect him to more appropriate responses (IE quietly move away) but it's not that easy in practice. The fear is deep rooted.

Why can't these fucking chavs just stick a muzzle on the ugly things?!

It just highlights that registering a dangerous dog and making them wear a muzzle in public hasn't fixed the issue at all.

I don't think anything will get done about it though. Too many ignorant owners advocating and putting pressure on their rights as owners.

I worry for children in homes with these beasts.

Awful, there does seem to have been a shift, the attacks are mostly on the owners now.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrlkn8m35no

And another one.

Man killed by own XL Bully dog in home - BBC News
Another one. This is getting beyond a joke now. When are the government going to actually DO something?

#foreverswim

Terrifying.

This is a video put up by a breeder of these dogs....

They interviewed the owners of the dog who killed the little girl. ''Like a demon posessed him''

It tells of how the XL Pit was ''her dog''..''a completely sweet dawg''- til it wasn't.

A lot of these are in UK. Same genetics.

I saw an XL bully being walked on Monday without a muzzle. This person used to walk two at the same time and up until the ban started walking them!/parading them in the nearby streets and wooded areas. They weren't seen for ages after the ban but then appeared again but muzzled and walked one at a time occasionally. I have found out we have to report to police if we see them out with no muzzle but waited as I couldn't remove the name of the street I belove she lives on I now have that so will email about it

The father said “ That’s why we chose this breed- good with kids”
@oakleaffy, yes, he is mistaken, a normal dog would give a warning before attacking, these types attack without warning and with lethal force.
They are too powerful to be pets, they are aware that they can easily overpower & kill humans. If you have one of these you are it's pet.

My goodness-
Look up 4 yr old Maya DeRouen (?) spelling?
She had a Pet XL bully that so say “ Loved her”

It flipped one day for no apparent reason - her mother saw it’s eyes take on a glassy cold dead stare like it was after prey.

It broke through a bedroom door to get at the little girl .
Killed her.

Took so many police rounds to kill it to release the child’s body.

An Autistic child with no boundaries is at more risk of attack by any dog- never mind an XLB

• I have seen autistic child grab a dog’s face in two hands and mash her face into the dog’s face

The father said “ That’s why we chose this breed- good with kids”

Crazy.

I think it's a mental illness and should be treated as such.

I don't know what some people need to happen to knock some sense into them
@iwillgetbackupagain
Some of the cult members appear to be completely unreachable, I read a report of a man whose arm was torn off by one of these dogs and he kept the pet.

The owners tend to be strongly emotionally bonded to the dog, there is no sense of reason or rationality, they love it more than they love family members of their own species.
This powerful sense of unconditional loyalty means that they will only ever defend the thing and attack you for insulting their beloved creature.

Woman attacked by staffy:

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/24515087.police-appeal-felixstowe-woman-dog-attack/

Another breed that needs to be olbiterated. I don't care if one is nice. They are a ticking time bomb.