TW - Upsetting information: XL Bully attack *edited by MNHQ

I am terrified of these dogs. They do not stop attacking once they start, and the ferociousness and barbarity of their attack is like nothing I have ever seen before, even with aggressive dogs of any other breed. They are different. I witnessed one tear a neighbour's cat to pieces. He didn't stop for about 10 minutes, despite the owner screaming at it and even kicking it at one point... None one could stop it, no one dared go near it was so aggressive. We and the poor neighbours who witnessed it were absolutely traumatised. My husband, bless him, cleaned up the aftermath as the owner ran off as soon as the attack stopped (not before swearing at us all and telling us he will come back and smash our windows in if we called the police... Counterintuitive!) and our poor elderly neighbour whose cat it was was totally distraught.... There were bits of the poor old cat strewn across the street. My husband was sick cleaning it up. Honestly it was the most horrific thing I've ever seen. I cried for days afterwards and I am traumatised in truth. They are not pets, they are killing machines.

I agree with what u have said but how are they allowed to breed them? Theres no regulations or laws the governments should focus on this and the ppl breeding would be more cautious if they knew there were consequences for not following proper guidelines these dogs are in ppls
homes around children.

You're wrong.

Many XL bullies in this country are very likely related to an XL nicknamed killer kimbo.

I'll let you guess why he's nicknamed that.

When these dogs were being selectively bred by humans the gene pool was condensed and a lot of behavioural issues in this breed of dog are because of the characteristics this dog was bred to have like the bite with a super high pressure and rear facing canines for that slicing action, and an innate lack of freeze or flight fear response, and the standoffish attitude which makes it a perfect status dog. Those behavioural characteristics don't suddenly change if you're an elderly woman altruistically rescuing one, or a mother of young children wanting to show the world that these beasts are loveable giants, or a genuinely good man who tries to see the best in all animals and really deeply to his core believes there are no bad dogs, just bad owners because he bought into Don Bluths all dogs go to heaven a bit too hard during his childhood.

Yes, other dogs have killed. It's true. Some of those dogs were bred for killing, terriers kill rodents, they've killed babies. Other large dogs have shown behavioural issues and their owners have had rose tinted glasses about their behaviour and it turns out they've had brain tumours or their lineage shows an excessive amount of inbreeding. We never have answers for some dogs.

It's not the fact these dogs were lockdown dogs, or that they have bad training. Many of these dogs will have had perfect recall, an affinity for obedience and learning, and have been highly respectful of their own families dynamic... until they weren't.

Once it's in their genetic makeup you can't just train it out of them.

You can't stop pointers pointing or retrievers retrieving, you can't stop XL bullies having the inclination to attack, even if that's not what they were bred for, it's part of them now.

The "velvet hippo" description PP mentioned upthread is more ridiculously appropriate than the idiots using it of these dogs seem to know. Hippos are not cuddly. They are extremely large, aggressive and dangerous animals that kill more humans than lions do. Hell, hippos kill lions.

Sorry lovely thank you for that ☺️

How horrific poor dog and poor owner. Who pays for the injured dog and its treatment? Should be same as cars the cl bully owner.

It is should have, not should of

So sad, too many incidents now

Fumes me propaganda listen iv experienced first hand with the media a family member of mine was prosecuted and on the front page of every news paper and they print what they want! Ur a fool to beliebe any different inside the court room one thing happened in the papers total lies!!!! So sont tell me about propaganda cus the news is bullshit and iv exp this first hand but this is cruel and wrong that a dog breed is getting such strong sanctions where is the story about the owners…? Watch these vidoes online of these dogs being made to fight!!!! They are used to snapping and turning then what the owner doesnt want it the dog gets sold and something happens? U dont know the full story niether do i but its not the only dog breed to have attacked do ur research

Im not trust me its funny how one incident happens then its all they talk about? What about the other dogs? Are u telling me no other breed has killed someone? Research it. Im not saying these cases arent absoloutely devastating they are…but im saying look into why? The dogs in the wrong 100% look at why? Why does the dog behave like that? Have u seen these youngesters criminals most likely that own these dogs? Have u seen the videos onlien where they make them fight each other? This is animal cruelty? These dogs are bread so that they are big dogs they are muscly big dogs but its down to how u train them. I know a family with two of these dogs and 3 kids!!!! The dogs are as nice as can be!!!! So how can u say its propaganda? The breed isnt the problem
the fucking system is anyone can breed no ones regulated! Some dogs esp bulldogs that were bread in corona a breed that everyone wants if they arent bred correctly iv seen the issues with these dogs the health issues…because they are mix bred. These people know nothing!!! This whole systme is a mess. Yes they shouldnt of happened its not the only dog breed thars donenit. So what about the tame americal xlsnthat now have to wear a muzzle round a park? Why? Its disgusting…its lile branding one group of ppl say terrorists and saying that they are thenissue or one race because of terrorism and they need restrictions? No look at their upbringing look at the history? Dogs dont attack for no reason they feel they are allowed to! If an owner has trained the dog right the dogs not gona even attempt it!!!! Tell me im wrong!!!

As aggressive as the dogs we're discussing? I must have missed the part where people died after being "aggressively" argued with on Mumsnet. These dogs are killing humans and other pets on a regular basis. Get real.

Animals arent guns they walk and act for themselves they have lives they need to be treated exactly what they are dogs…who need to know who the leader is and if they cant listen then that dog needs to be trained end of esp the size of these

Did your title have to be so graphic? That's quite triggering.

Don’t talk wet.
The media is only a part of it.I take it you mean the papers.
If you were aware of how many attacks that are actually happening by XL’s you wouldn’t be writing such tripe.
It’s happening up and down the country.
And what is this one attack you are talking about, they are attacking all the time.Other dogs don’t even compare and when they do bite it’s one bite and it’s over not fight to the death.
You are just another Pit idiot pushing the propaganda.

Guns are only a danger to the public in the hands of irresponsible people. Guns are still banned.

Jack Lis is the name of the little lad killed by one of these XL bullies.He could only be identified by his shoe such were his injuries.
I disagree with what you are saying about the tootle being too graphic, it’s just the actual truth of what happened and more people need to be aware of what is happening.

That’s my eye roll moment too
Like what does it matter who’s bloody fault it is

One thing that really gets me is the constant assertion that it's not the dog's fault.
Actually, I don't care whether or not it's the dog's fault. The dog does it.
I want the dog to stop killing and maiming.
The obvious solution is to remove the dog from the situation.
These normal situations with adults and children and other dogs, that seem to provoke the XL bullies to attack, whether or not it's the actual dog's fault.

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I get where you are coming for I really do, but if you were to see all the posts on Facebook every time one of these XL’s attacks and it is a lot, you have all the idiots come out defending these maulers.
They are as vile as their dogs.

If, by some microscopic chance, all these dogs have bypassed being bought by a decent owner and just idiots then what is the solution. We all have to be fearful, on alert and fed up because it’s not the dogs fault?
People and other animals have to just deal with being bit or attacked by one because it’s unethical to blame a dog for its own behaviour

Please listen to what people are saying here, and consider for a moment that they may have a point.

A Cane Corso is a fucking guard dog. Not a household domestic pet.

Okay again, the apologists, if this dog is perfectly lovely and has coincidentally only been bought by fools, why do they turn so quickly. Why do they turn on their owners?
Why do they have such short temperaments that every single thing has to be perfect or else it’ll rip your head off? If this dog is such a gentle giant why does the slightest thing, such as a baby crying, a sneeze, a cat 3 miles away piss it off to the point it’s maiming adults, children and other dogs.

I would be getting some sort of protect a pet fencing up as I’m sorry your cats will not stand a chance.

The "it's not the breed, it's the owners" nonsense ignores that these dogs were specifically bred - and massively inbred- to be like this. Hair-trigger temper, extremely aggressive, incredibly strong, insensitive to pain, will not stop for anything. The best owner in the world (not that a best owner would have an XL bully) can't stop that.

they arent bred to fight and kill…its the owners breeding and using them
for protection because of their size. They need to be prosecuted why keep an animal like that? Look at their home ask them the questions where they got the dog who the breeder is then the picture builds…these people are the issue. Look at the cane corso dogs iv seen these they are daft as anything and so soft in temprement but HUGE like a horse if it runs in the park u cant control that how can u? so where does owner responsibility come in? If a dogs too large and muscly to compete with a human or a dog then it needs to go to the right owners poss the police? Theh need to be trained correctly