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TW - Upsetting information: XL Bully attack *edited by MNHQ

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Citylightsarebright · 10/08/2024 23:43

Another xl bully attack, this time it was in my home town last week.
An xl bully ran out of the house down the road and attacked the nearest dog it saw a little dauchshund ripping both its legs off, it took 4 men and two women to get the xl bully off the other dog. The other little dog is alive thanks to the bravery of other people there at the time , however it had to have both legs ( what was left of them ) amputated.
Its extremely sad. The owner of the dauchshund is an elderly lady who was out walking the little dog ans she is utterly traumatised as expected.
The dog has been seized and owners will be prosecuted we have been told.
The reason I'm posting this is because I feel prosecution and dog being seized hasnt really solved anything has it? What is being done to prevent what happened in the first place? Nothing?? These dogs are still attacking / killing animals and children/ adults
Am I being unreasonable in thinking enough isnt being done to get rid of these hurrendous dogs?????

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KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 28/08/2024 06:46

I don’t think all 4 were bull breeds. I wish they’d use better pictures. Sometimes they use adorable pittie pictures where they look like Labradors. Other times they use the monster photo. Doesn’t help people understand which dogs are the issue when they use such inconsistent photos.

Lorapots · 28/08/2024 04:51

If the dog is deemed too dangerous legally to be in public unmuzzled then where do we stand with having it in the house with children

True - it doesn’t really make sense does it, to say a dangerous dog can be unmuzzled at home around children where most deaths occur.

Good to see the update of the two dogs being found before they injured anyone else. I don’t get why they’re being held in secure kennels and not immediately PTS.

It’s of course sad this man died but sadder still this family endangered everyone’s life and flouted the rules on this. Glad no-one else was killed as a a result of their actions.

OonaStubbs · 28/08/2024 00:40

Sorry but he does look like a typical idiot who would own a devil dog. RIP.

BlackShuck3 · 28/08/2024 00:38

There's an update on this attack:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05j0z7yv8lo
Two dogs seized when a man died of bite injuries in a back garden were proscribed breed XL bullies, police have confirmed.
On Tuesday, police named the man as Nicholas Glass, 32. He was found dead near a relative’s property on Hereford Close in Rubery, West Midlands, during the early hours of 21 August.
It is thought up to four dogs were present at about the time he was attacked. Two animals were seized by police shortly afterwards, with two more found two days later.
"Tests have now concluded that two of the dogs were XL Bullies, which are a banned breed. Neither have a certificate of exemption," West Midlands Police said.
[....]It is thought Mr Glass had been looking after a relative's dogs when he was attacked. One of the dogs was found with an injury to its head.
Police said the dogs had been living at the property near to where Mr Glass was found although he had been living elsewhere.

A man  wearing a khaki baseball cap worn backwards looks into the camera. he has a bit of a moustache and is holding his thumb and forefinger together. He is inside a property which has a black and white wallpaper pattern behind him.

Dogs seized over man's death in Rubery were XL bullies

Two of the dogs seized after Nicholas Glass's death are the banned breed, police confirm.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05j0z7yv8lo

oakleaffy · 23/08/2024 15:07

Rummly · 23/08/2024 08:43

Somebody will be along, if they haven’t already, with “but there are x million dogs and only y deaths; fatal dog attacks are very rare”.

The trouble with that is that it doesn’t recognise the thousands and thousands of serious non-fatal attacks and it’s irrelevant anyway: there are millions of cats but there’s no problem with cat attacks. There shouldn’t be any deaths or serious attacks because of dogs.

Bull breeds - other than toy ones, if they exist - ought to banned outright, as you imply.

I was once attacked by a feral cat ( he went to attack my young dog that I had in my arms as could see cat meant business!

The farmer knocked the cat off and covered him with his Barbour jacket

The local GP thought it was a fox attack ( Still got faint scars from bite and claws)

A cat can attack, but as long as antibiotics are taken, they are unlikely to kill someone.

Farmer said cat was found dead a few weeks later after increasing aggression to humans he knew-
Possibly a brain tumour.

( Cat lived on farm as was a formidable rat 🐀 killer)

HeadacheEarthquake · 23/08/2024 09:37

YOYOK · 23/08/2024 09:04

People with an XL bully and child or children in the same home should be prosecuted. It is appalling parenting.

This is an interesting point - a child would be taken away from a house full of drugs, weapons or a violent person by SS

If the dog is deemed too dangerous legally to be in public unmuzzled then where do we stand with having it in the house with children

YOYOK · 23/08/2024 09:04

People with an XL bully and child or children in the same home should be prosecuted. It is appalling parenting.

Rummly · 23/08/2024 08:43

oakleaffy · 23/08/2024 02:27

Probably.
Bull breeds are definitely over represented in the killing and maiming of adults , children and other animals.

Somebody will be along, if they haven’t already, with “but there are x million dogs and only y deaths; fatal dog attacks are very rare”.

The trouble with that is that it doesn’t recognise the thousands and thousands of serious non-fatal attacks and it’s irrelevant anyway: there are millions of cats but there’s no problem with cat attacks. There shouldn’t be any deaths or serious attacks because of dogs.

Bull breeds - other than toy ones, if they exist - ought to banned outright, as you imply.

oakleaffy · 23/08/2024 02:27

OonaStubbs · 23/08/2024 00:42

Do dogs kill more people than guns in this country?

Probably.
Bull breeds are definitely over represented in the killing and maiming of adults , children and other animals.

OonaStubbs · 23/08/2024 00:42

Do dogs kill more people than guns in this country?

Watermel · 23/08/2024 00:11

Oh no, not another one. When will people learn?

oakleaffy · 22/08/2024 20:07

BlackShuck3 · 22/08/2024 13:55

It seems reasonably likely that they were his own dogs?

I read that a brother was looking after these killer dogs.

I saw a hideous white, tiny~ eyed nappy rash faced ''American Bully'' pulling it's puny owner off his feet the other day- it was choking itself trying to reach an old woman's innocent passive small dog- These dogs really do appeal to the tiny penis brigade.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80egr50vmmo

A brown dog, thought to be an American Bulldog type, looking at the camera.

Hunt for two dogs suspected of killing man in Birmingham

Two dogs have been seized but two more American bulldog types are being sought by police.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80egr50vmmo

BlackShuck3 · 22/08/2024 14:05

In the news reports of the first killing it said that the dog had to be shot to prevent further injury which suggests it was still in 'killing mode' / in a state of extreme arousal.
I'm thinking it's likely that these two dogs are behaving similarly, I hope they are caught and destroyed as soon as possible. Have people in the vicinity been warned to stay indoors?

BlackShuck3 · 22/08/2024 13:55

winewine · 22/08/2024 13:51

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80egr50vmmo.amp

Hope the link works.
A man was found dead in his back garden. Police are looking for 2 dogs.

It seems reasonably likely that they were his own dogs?

winewine · 22/08/2024 13:51

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80egr50vmmo.amp

Hope the link works.
A man was found dead in his back garden. Police are looking for 2 dogs.

CoconutSky · 22/08/2024 12:53

My mum used to always say. The UK is a nation of dog owners not dog lovers.

BlackShuck3 · 22/08/2024 12:06

The UK is a nation of animal lovers.
Translation: the UK is a nation of people who love to eat animal flesh and also love to indulge themselves with pet animals.

BlackShuck3 · 22/08/2024 12:04

Amberpants · 22/08/2024 08:39

Apparently the man that has been killed in the last couple of days wasn’t actually the owner, he was looking after the dog for someone. It’s near me and his daughter has commented on the police post 😢

I’m a massive animal lover, a vegetarian, but I agree these dogs need to go.

Oh that's awful 😞🤬
When I saw the photo I did think he didn't look like a typical owner.

Lorapots · 22/08/2024 11:45

Watermel · 22/08/2024 11:36

Indeed. I have been vegan for 25+ years and the number of times I have had to hear that the UK is a nation of animal lovers, when the statistics for animals killed in the UK alone merely for consumption proves otherwise, is exasperating.
Dog- and cat- owners especially, think they are animal lovers, yet they are responsible for billions of other animals being killed, to feed their pets.
I am looking forward to more people making the connexion.

I’m not a vegan but I totally agree with you. I don’t think it’s fair to say we are a nation of animal lovers. We’re a nation of pet lovers. There’s a difference.

My ex didn’t have any pets, and wasn’t keen on them but he was a vegan out of principle. That to me a true animal lover.

Watermel · 22/08/2024 11:36

Lorapots · 22/08/2024 11:33

The irony is the majority of these xbully idiot supporters would claim they are more of an animal lover than you despite the fact that IMO vegans are actually the definition of a true animal lover @Watermel

Does anyone watch love island? One former love islander called Faye who came third or 4th in the final a few years ago (and was very explosive on the series) has made various posts in support of Xl bullies telling us we just don’t understand the breed and showing videos of her running around a park with one and that the upcoming ban is cruel 🤦🏽‍♀️ I don’t follow her on instagram but stumbled upon her page somehow

Indeed. I have been vegan for 25+ years and the number of times I have had to hear that the UK is a nation of animal lovers, when the statistics for animals killed in the UK alone merely for consumption proves otherwise, is exasperating.
Dog- and cat- owners especially, think they are animal lovers, yet they are responsible for billions of other animals being killed, to feed their pets.
I am looking forward to more people making the connexion.

Lorapots · 22/08/2024 11:33

The irony is the majority of these xbully idiot supporters would claim they are more of an animal lover than you despite the fact that IMO vegans are actually the definition of a true animal lover @Watermel

Does anyone watch love island? One former love islander called Faye who came third or 4th in the final a few years ago (and was very explosive on the series) has made various posts in support of Xl bullies telling us we just don’t understand the breed and showing videos of her running around a park with one and that the upcoming ban is cruel 🤦🏽‍♀️ I don’t follow her on instagram but stumbled upon her page somehow

Watermel · 22/08/2024 08:45

Amberpants · 22/08/2024 08:39

Apparently the man that has been killed in the last couple of days wasn’t actually the owner, he was looking after the dog for someone. It’s near me and his daughter has commented on the police post 😢

I’m a massive animal lover, a vegetarian, but I agree these dogs need to go.

I am vegan, and I want these dogs exterminated. Humans come first, we should not be risking our lives for animals.

Amberpants · 22/08/2024 08:39

Apparently the man that has been killed in the last couple of days wasn’t actually the owner, he was looking after the dog for someone. It’s near me and his daughter has commented on the police post 😢

I’m a massive animal lover, a vegetarian, but I agree these dogs need to go.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 22/08/2024 08:27

oakleaffy · 22/08/2024 04:57

Micro pigs were a total scam.
They were tiny piglets sold to the gullible.
All piglets are born tiny and pristine-
and hand sized, covered in silky smooth hair
They are very sweet.
But they grow massively.

Thank goodness the fashion for pigs as pets waned.

Lovely intelligent animals, doubtlessly many were kept by ignorant owners.
Pigs as pets if one has land and facilities and knowledge is different to a domestic pig in an urban home.

I nearly fell for it, but doing my research discovered they were subject to movement orders. You had to register their walk route, and couldn’t go anywhere new.

I knew the size issue- that wouldn’t have been the problem 🤣

oakleaffy · 22/08/2024 04:57

biscuitandcake · 22/08/2024 03:47

Weren't they a scam? Lots of teacup pigs growing into full size pigs.

Micro pigs were a total scam.
They were tiny piglets sold to the gullible.
All piglets are born tiny and pristine-
and hand sized, covered in silky smooth hair
They are very sweet.
But they grow massively.

Thank goodness the fashion for pigs as pets waned.

Lovely intelligent animals, doubtlessly many were kept by ignorant owners.
Pigs as pets if one has land and facilities and knowledge is different to a domestic pig in an urban home.

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