Quiet neighbours now making noise.

I'm with your neighbours. My ndn kids kick a football in the garden, they keep kicking it and it hits the fence or comes into my garden. They now started kicking the bloody ball against the house.

So if he plays basketball for half an hour four times a day, that is also two hours. So you can’t really complain about your neighbours listening to music for two hours.
having the radio on at a reasonable volume is a completely normal part of life, you sound really petty.

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Get a grip op.

Of course your neighbours are allowed to listen to music in their garden.

I echo this. Well done, OP, for acknowledging the weight of opinion, not always an easy thing to do. Some things to consider:

The uncertainty of when noise will start and stop raises anxiety; you are experiencing in relation to their music; perhaps set particular times for more limited practice and make the neighbours aware.

Be genuinely open to other mitigations eg relocating your hoop and lobbying council/your local councillor to install a hoop in the park; this would signal to your neighbours you are looking at the issue from their perspective.

Obviously you’re unreasonable 😂

Do you have grass? At the very least, I'd look into putting a hoop on a stand as far away as possible from the neighbours. Also some kind of sound deadening surface to surround it. This is the least you can do. Also tolerate normal music from your neighbours.

1-2h a day is not necessarily too much as long as it is never around mealtime or when the neighbours are relaxing outside. OP, when does your son play? And does he check if the neighbours are in their garden before starting?

I would also say that music is less of a nuisance than basket-ball noise, so if he plays for say 1h in total, I wouldn’t dream of complaining about music even if it lasted 2-3h if you see what I mean?

I think it probably ‘worked for them’ in the sense that they limited how they used their garden, so as not in inconvenience you and hoped/assumed you would do the same. In this case, they would have enjoyed their garden more with a bit of music, but didn’t so as not to disturb you.

But it wasn’t reciprocal. They ‘sacrifice’ their music (for your benefit), and still lose their peace when your son plays basketball. On the other hand your son gets to make his noise as and when, and you get quiet from their garden. They ‘lost’ everything, while you got exactly what you wanted, without giving anything up.

So...they play music for 2 hours and your son plays basketball for half an hour at a time "3 or 4 times a day" ie the same amount of time? I'd rather listen to music than a ball being thudded repeatedly. You both have right to enjoyment of your home and garden nothing here is excessive you could have alot worse neighbours!

It was just a question.

if he has siblings perhaps he could play/interact with them at something other than basketball

Maybe OP son needs occupying with other young people, if not siblings then friends or if he has no friends then maybe a club.

You don’t need to take offence at every comment that you have made into something else in your head.

So your son can play basket ball for 30misn 3/4 times a day, so 1.5-2 hours.... but they can't have some music for two hours.

You're being an arse.

Yeah, this.

30-45 minutes a day is more reasonable. At least then they know it's over, not wondering when the next bout of unbearably irritating noise will begin again!

You appreciated that they were quiet neighbours, but didn't want to be quiet neighbours in return.

They are allowed to enjoy their home too. They are now just less restrictive of the noise they make in reasonable waking hours.

I was just going to say this.

OP has accepted she is BU and is going to talk to the neighbours again. No need to keep at her!

Basketball is a very annoying repetitive noise. To remedy the situation which I assume you want to do, you need to agree times for the basketball and times for the music. I do not blame them for retaliating. They are probably past themselves.

Oh come on OP - this has to be a reverse or a wind up because no one could possibly think its ok for someone to be playing basketball right next to the neighbour's house 3 or 4 times a day for half an hour at a time.

@OpalBird - The basketball is only about half an hour at a time, a few times a day. Their music yesterday was for two hours. We've got our son down to no more than three or four times a day now, so it's not excessive. It used to be twice that. So we've done something about it.

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basketball bouncing for 2 hours a day is fucking awful. A really annoying repetitive noise. And you're complaining about your neighbours' noise for the same time?? You're bonkers and very unreasonable.

And he used to play for four hours a day?? Your poor neighbours.

Stop being so bloody selfish, and send your son to the park to play.

Our neighbours’ kids play basketball for half hour once a day, and I can cope with that.

I would struggle with 3 or 4 times a day. The person above who doesn’t understand how the noise carries has obviously never lived near kids that play basketball - it’s nothing like the noise of kids running around playing football for example (our next door neighbours’ kids play this and we barely notice). It’s also not in the same league as work building going on that will finish after a certain length of time!

My son plays basketball in the garden, not as much as yours does, but I let him play.
My adjoining neighbour is a piano and violin teacher. I'm sure the basketball is a bit annoying, as is listening to their awful violin students. We are really happy as neighbours and get on great. live and let live! But it has to work both ways.
Soon your son will probably get bored of so much basketball, it just goes in phases usually.

Fair play OP you’ve taken the feedback on board. Hope the rest of the thread reflects your change of perspective and people don’t continue to give you a hard time.

Basketball 30 mins at a time 3 or 4 times a day sounds HORRENDOUS. They are not being unreasonable to make less effort to be mindful when they have to listen to that.

Of course, noone would seriously expect people to listen to music on headphones in their own home?!

These would be my thoughts too- clearly my neighbours dont care about noise so I will enjoy my home as I see fit.

You really have no leg to stand on here- if you make noise yourself people will assume you are fine with it- its just common sense.

Well then, take it up with your local community council/ local authority and get on installed.