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Why do female gymnasts always look like that?

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LovelyBitOfHam · 09/08/2024 20:49

I’m sure you know what I mean.

Hair tied back in a big scrunchie - the kind of scrunchie you last wore when you were 9 years old.

Glittery make up.

Plaits, braids and hair clips.

I understand a lot of sports have a uniform but ultimately, if you take a track and field athlete, a swimmer and a tennis player just before they perform, you wouldn’t really be able to tell which sport they play just by looking at them. But you can identify the gymnasts from a mile away.

It isn’t just at Olympic level either. Even the little girls in weekend gymnastic clubs have the same sort of style.

Is it some kind of male gaze thing? Or is there a “type” of girl who grows up wanting to be a gymnast? I’ve always associated gymnasts with the sort of girls who didn’t really grow up, but I’ve now realised just how wrong that is.

I think what they can do is incredible, and Simone Biles is great. But there’s something about the “look” of gymnastics that’s always bothered me, and I can’t put my finger on what it is. Anyone else?

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Floralie222 · 09/08/2024 23:37

I used to compete in gymnastics from a young age. During an average training session where my hair was up in a simple pony tail or bun, I probably redid my hair an average of 50 times per session. The running and the movements really cause your hair to move. When you're competing you can't have hair moving about, you really do need it french plaited or sprayed back so that nothing is in the way when trying to balance on a beam etc. The glitter for us was something that signified "competition hair" and made the hairspray more fun. It was harmless.

AimieDaisy · 09/08/2024 23:35

Gosh, some people on this thread are absolute c**ts.

TheKeatingFive · 09/08/2024 23:33

BeatsAntique · 09/08/2024 23:28

The problem is the male/female events having such different expectations and rules.

When women were first allowed to compete in the Olympics they were only allowed to do so in a way that showcases femininity and grace. That’s why the women’s floor events have music and dance involved and the men’s don’t. Things just haven’t changed.

Gymnastics is one of the very few sports that evolved to showcase what female bodies are better at as well as male. The female events focus on balance, flexibility, artistry as well as acro. The male events are much more about strength (particularly upper body strength) and power.

Amaura · 09/08/2024 23:32

The scrunchie for my gymnast is to hide the several smaller headbands underneath required to in order to ensure her copious amounts of hair stays put.

Lincoln24 · 09/08/2024 23:32

BeatsAntique · 09/08/2024 23:28

The problem is the male/female events having such different expectations and rules.

When women were first allowed to compete in the Olympics they were only allowed to do so in a way that showcases femininity and grace. That’s why the women’s floor events have music and dance involved and the men’s don’t. Things just haven’t changed.

They have changed quite a lot. Gymnastics scoring prioritises technical mastery over grace. Men are expected to point their toes and present just as women are.
I'm struggling to think of any other olympic sports where expectations differ for men and women.

LaeralSilverhand · 09/08/2024 23:32

TheHateIsNotGood · 09/08/2024 23:27

@LaeralSilverhand - seriously? Dear god woman go get yourself down to the humour shop. Racist tropes? Please do explain....

Maybe watch the recent documentary about him to understand. The “lunchbox” thing was a racist fetishisation of black mens’ bodies pushed by tabloid newspapers. He had a breakdown over it.

VeryHappyBunny · 09/08/2024 23:29

Presumably you are referring to artistic gymnastics where the answer is in the title, it is artistic and points are given for this as well as the technical aspect. To be honest I'm not really sure what the point is of this thread except to decry the efforts of amazing athletes.

Some people must have rather sad and pathetic lives to get so worked up about glitter and hair scrunchies. Yes they look like young girls because they are young girls. They are mostly teens and early twenties, not middle aged, menopausal women, or would you prefer it if they competed looking like lamb dressed at mutton?

BeatsAntique · 09/08/2024 23:28

The problem is the male/female events having such different expectations and rules.

When women were first allowed to compete in the Olympics they were only allowed to do so in a way that showcases femininity and grace. That’s why the women’s floor events have music and dance involved and the men’s don’t. Things just haven’t changed.

TheKeatingFive · 09/08/2024 23:28

NeverDropYourMooncup · 09/08/2024 22:58

Doesn't seem to be an issue for the female breakers, though.

If you can't tell the difference between what gymnasts do and what breakers do - none of us can help you

TheHateIsNotGood · 09/08/2024 23:27

@LaeralSilverhand - seriously? Dear god woman go get yourself down to the humour shop. Racist tropes? Please do explain....

Purplebunnie · 09/08/2024 23:26

Anyone seen the competitor in the pole vault who took the pole out with his lunchbox

Oftenaddled · 09/08/2024 23:26

LaeralSilverhand · 09/08/2024 23:24

Ah yes, not content with the misogyny on this thread, it’s time to resurrect some good old racist tropes.

I read the comment from @TheHateIsNotGood as saying the judgy types would object, not that we should.

LaeralSilverhand · 09/08/2024 23:24

TheHateIsNotGood · 09/08/2024 23:22

And the Divers - now there's a sight to behold - for the judgy-pants amongst us. Just today, I did notice that a Spanish diver, after completing her dive in the current de rigeur diving costume of no 'bottom-coverage' placed one of those dainty little towels over her buttocks after exiting the pool.

Anyone remember Linford Christie's Lunchbox?

Ah yes, not content with the misogyny on this thread, it’s time to resurrect some good old racist tropes.

TheHateIsNotGood · 09/08/2024 23:22

And the Divers - now there's a sight to behold - for the judgy-pants amongst us. Just today, I did notice that a Spanish diver, after completing her dive in the current de rigeur diving costume of no 'bottom-coverage' placed one of those dainty little towels over her buttocks after exiting the pool.

Anyone remember Linford Christie's Lunchbox?

Oftenaddled · 09/08/2024 23:21

Vizella · 09/08/2024 23:17

I'm guessing that after slicking back their hair so tightly, they look weird, alien-like and slightly masculine so they need to feel human and womanly by wearing make-up? They want to look cute and theatrical rather than slutty or sultry. That would explain why SOME of them do it.

Well that must be a guess. Because they don't look remotely alien. They look like humans with their hair tied back, more or less tightly. And wearing pretty normal amounts of makeup.

Clafoutie · 09/08/2024 23:21

shuggles · 09/08/2024 23:06

@LovelyBitOfHam But you can identify the gymnasts from a mile away.

The sport has an artistic element to it, which is why the women look and perform a certain way.

Is it some kind of male gaze thing?

No.

I’ve always associated gymnasts with the sort of girls who didn’t really grow up, but I’ve now realised just how wrong that is.

It's good that you've realised this is wrong, but it's astonishing you would even think that to begin with. I would say that sitting at a computer and scrutinising women's appearances on the internet isn't grown up.

But the OP was being honest, saying they had realised they were wrong. No need to condescend further.

LaeralSilverhand · 09/08/2024 23:20

@Thepottingshed not sure what you are on about, several gymnasts did compete in unitards. And beach volleyball players can and do wear shorts. The (idiotic) beach volleyball rules were changed 3 years ago.

Have you actually been watching any of the sports you are commenting on?

Oftenaddled · 09/08/2024 23:19

LaeralSilverhand · 09/08/2024 23:16

I’ve just realised that while there have been multiple threads criticising gymnasts, divers, synchro swimming, and track and field female athletes’ garb and appearance I haven’t seen a SINGLE thread criticising the frankly bizarre dress of the dressage and show jumping riders.

It’s almost as if this has nothing to do with clothing, and everything to do with a deeply misogynistic attitude to women’s bodies. How dare women have strong, beautiful bodies? How dare they choose to show off their amazing bodies and what they can do?

Also.

Class.

AGoingConcern · 09/08/2024 23:19

Would the Germans have been allowed to compete in their full leg suits? If not, why not? (I'm not being goady, I'm genuinely interested- the gymnasts say it doesn't hamper their performance).

Yes. They didn't put them on just to pose next to the equipment, they've been competing in them when they want for years now.

Oftenaddled · 09/08/2024 23:18

Thepottingshed · 09/08/2024 23:15

Ok great, delighted, I am presuming the outfits are all a variation on a theme though, no one is going wildly off piste there, are they? Unlike athletics where there is usually a very wide range of types of outfit. Would the Germans have been allowed to compete in their full leg suits? If not, why not? (I'm not being goady, I'm genuinely interested- the gymnasts say it doesn't hamper their performance).

Some interesting thoughts from volleyball players here as well (it's interesting to ask what interest is being preserved in fining them for wearing- gasp- shorts!)

https://www.upbeacon.com/article/2021/11/more-than-the-uniform-volleyball-players-speak-out-about-body-image-and-sexism

All sport is absolutely shot through with sexism, like anything else. It doesn't detract from the athleticism to ask how that is acting on the sport, and the institutions of that sport, especially as those institutions are dominated by men.

Yes, two of the German athletes did compete in their full leg suits. The full leg suits are very old news by now!

All the outfits are leotards, unitards, or potentially leotards with tights or leggings under or over. The leotard is a very sensible outfit to wear for gymnastics.

Vizella · 09/08/2024 23:17

I'm guessing that after slicking back their hair so tightly, they look weird, alien-like and slightly masculine so they need to feel human and womanly by wearing make-up? They want to look cute and theatrical rather than slutty or sultry. That would explain why SOME of them do it.

LaeralSilverhand · 09/08/2024 23:16

I’ve just realised that while there have been multiple threads criticising gymnasts, divers, synchro swimming, and track and field female athletes’ garb and appearance I haven’t seen a SINGLE thread criticising the frankly bizarre dress of the dressage and show jumping riders.

It’s almost as if this has nothing to do with clothing, and everything to do with a deeply misogynistic attitude to women’s bodies. How dare women have strong, beautiful bodies? How dare they choose to show off their amazing bodies and what they can do?

invisiblecat · 09/08/2024 23:16

LovelyBitOfHam · 09/08/2024 22:05

Yes! This is exactly what I was trying to touch upon when I created this thread. The juxtaposition of the sickly sweet smiles and the toughness of the women and girls who must have abs of steel and an ability to perform flawlessly under pressure.

It just doesn’t seem right. It would be like expecting female tennis players to serve with their little finger poking out.

Gymnastics isn't just a sport - it is a performance and the floor routine in particular is supposed to look effortless. Hence the smiles.

If you are throwing a javelin, or wrestling someone to the ground or running 100m in less than 10 seconds it doesn't matter what your face looks like. You can grimace with the superhuman effort and it doesn't matter if it looks like hard work.

Thepottingshed · 09/08/2024 23:15

Ok great, delighted, I am presuming the outfits are all a variation on a theme though, no one is going wildly off piste there, are they? Unlike athletics where there is usually a very wide range of types of outfit. Would the Germans have been allowed to compete in their full leg suits? If not, why not? (I'm not being goady, I'm genuinely interested- the gymnasts say it doesn't hamper their performance).

Some interesting thoughts from volleyball players here as well (it's interesting to ask what interest is being preserved in fining them for wearing- gasp- shorts!)

https://www.upbeacon.com/article/2021/11/more-than-the-uniform-volleyball-players-speak-out-about-body-image-and-sexism

All sport is absolutely shot through with sexism, like anything else. It doesn't detract from the athleticism to ask how that is acting on the sport, and the institutions of that sport, especially as those institutions are dominated by men.

More than the uniform: Volleyball players speak out about body image and sexism

The Student Voice of the University of Portland Since 1935

https://www.upbeacon.com/article/2021/11/more-than-the-uniform-volleyball-players-speak-out-about-body-image-and-sexism

SaltAndVinegar2 · 09/08/2024 23:15

Bunnycat101 · 09/08/2024 23:14

Thing is the OP isn’t even true. Lots of the gymnasts had very plain buns and not much glitter in sight. Some went pretty blingy, some went quite girly. There has been lots of hair styles sported across the different sports. I saw some of the US track athletes with ribbons in their hair so maybe they just bloody like them and that is their choice.

Yes exactly. OP is seeing things that aren't there. Goady

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