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How many sick days are you allowed to take?

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Abigail47 · 09/08/2024 18:55

In my last job, they didn't really care that much about sick leave. They would let people take up to about two weeks uncertified sick leave, and if you were certified for sick leave, you could take months of sick leave. They also didn't do return to work meetings for sick periods of less that five days.

I only took about four days sick leave in a year in that last job.

I started a new job seven months ago and I'm in shock.

I've taken four days sick leave in the whole seven month period. Two different periods of two days. I was sick. They were uncertified (as I had moved to a new area and hadn't registered with a local doctor in time) and I didn't get paid.

After each period I was called into an office with a manager and made to do a return to work meeting.
I was told in each meeting that too much sick leave can leave to contract termination.

My colleague just took five days certified sick leave, and on her return they said the same to her, that too much sick leave can lead to contract termination.

Aibu to think that four days sick leave in a whole year is not a lot.

Like we are going to get sick . Everyone does.
In one of my sick periods I totally lost my voice with a chest infection. I couldn't speak at all and I have a customer facing role.

What is sick leave like in your organisation?

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bluewatermelon · 10/08/2024 12:21

aodirjjd · 10/08/2024 12:18

statistically speaking that isn’t widespread. It would be naive to think it doesn’t affect hiring choices even if employers aren’t legally allowed to discriminate on that basis.

We have a different society than you, and it works very well.

DeclutteringNewbie · 10/08/2024 12:19

ChiefEverythingOfficer · 10/08/2024 12:07

This is awful. My staff get 10 days of paid sick leave.

It accrues but does not rollover.

We also give our staff 4 hours a week to volunteer and 4 weeks of paid annual leave.

When in the hell did the UK go backwards??

Backwards? Your company gives the bare minimum annual leave and next to no paid sick leave.

aodirjjd · 10/08/2024 12:18

bluewatermelon · 10/08/2024 11:45

Where I live most couples share maternity leave tbf, so the employer would have to give a man 6-12 months keave which is half of it.

statistically speaking that isn’t widespread. It would be naive to think it doesn’t affect hiring choices even if employers aren’t legally allowed to discriminate on that basis.

DeclutteringNewbie · 10/08/2024 12:17

Abigail47 · 10/08/2024 12:08

Incorrect.

There is a section about sick leave on my contract.

There is a whole paragraph.

Just the wording of it is not clear at all.

So your company has really shitty HR.

What was I saying about red flags????

confusedlots · 10/08/2024 12:17

4 days sick in a 7 month period is definitely a lot. Are you usually unwell so often that you can't work? Or is this more than you would usually be sick?

Abigail47 · 10/08/2024 12:08

DeclutteringNewbie · 10/08/2024 12:05

It won’t be in your contract. There will be a policy in the staff handbook or intranet.

Incorrect.

There is a section about sick leave on my contract.

There is a whole paragraph.

Just the wording of it is not clear at all.

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gabsdot45 · 10/08/2024 12:07

3 periods of sickness in 3 months may lead to the beginning of a disciplinary process.

ChiefEverythingOfficer · 10/08/2024 12:07

This is awful. My staff get 10 days of paid sick leave.

It accrues but does not rollover.

We also give our staff 4 hours a week to volunteer and 4 weeks of paid annual leave.

When in the hell did the UK go backwards??

DeclutteringNewbie · 10/08/2024 12:06

Nobody wants to reissue contracts when policies change.

DeclutteringNewbie · 10/08/2024 12:05

Abigail47 · 10/08/2024 11:58

Other people do get sick that much

I see another poster on here said that she took six sick days in six months.

In my current workplace, a colleague who started after me has taken five sickk days.

What was my mistake though is that I got used to how my previous employer acted.
Which is that they would let you take about ten days uncertified sick leave, no questions asked. I began to see that ad the norm

I see other posters say that on here. They said "my last employer was so flexible I got used to that, I thought my new employer would be the same".

I can't assume that every employer is the same, and I need to check the contract very thoroughly or ask questions if it's not clear.

The sick leave policy in my current contract is very vague and not clear

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It won’t be in your contract. There will be a policy in the staff handbook or intranet.

Babyboomtastic · 10/08/2024 12:05

For people who work in places where going sick is so frowned on - are they genuinely ok with you being in the office with D&V and other unpleasant and contagious conditions?

Because they can't have it both ways surely. If being ill to much is a disciplinary matter then they need to accept that means people working with vomit bowls on their desks etc.

DeclutteringNewbie · 10/08/2024 12:04

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 10/08/2024 11:35

I've had covid 3 times in 7 months, couldn't get out of bed each time, and boy, am I in trouble with my job. I'm on a warning.

We had someone start at the end of 2020. They managed 2 weeks of their 4 week training and then had 7 months of them having Covid, being in contact with someone with Covid, kids had Covid.

This was the NHS where we rightly didn’t want infectious people to come to work, but this one took the piss. Couldn’t explain how she was exposing herself to Covid every fortnight when we were locked down. No explanation. Found out she was faking reports from Test and Trace but we sacked her anyway for her absence even without that.

Abigail47 · 10/08/2024 11:58

Willoo · 10/08/2024 11:55

That is a lot of sick days. Yes, people get sick but not usually that much. I’ve had one sick day in 3 years

Other people do get sick that much

I see another poster on here said that she took six sick days in six months.

In my current workplace, a colleague who started after me has taken five sickk days.

What was my mistake though is that I got used to how my previous employer acted.
Which is that they would let you take about ten days uncertified sick leave, no questions asked. I began to see that ad the norm

I see other posters say that on here. They said "my last employer was so flexible I got used to that, I thought my new employer would be the same".

I can't assume that every employer is the same, and I need to check the contract very thoroughly or ask questions if it's not clear.

The sick leave policy in my current contract is very vague and not clear

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Willoo · 10/08/2024 11:55

That is a lot of sick days. Yes, people get sick but not usually that much. I’ve had one sick day in 3 years

Abigail47 · 10/08/2024 11:52

The instances versus days makes no sense.

Like a lot of employer regulations, it's box ticking, without looking at the person's circumstances.

So on the system:

Four incident of sickness of two days = red flag = warning.

One incident of twenty days = no warning, no box ticked.

I can see employees starting to stand up for themselves about that Bradford system as it doesn't make sense and is unfair

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LoneHydrangea · 10/08/2024 11:47

Abigail47 · 10/08/2024 11:39

I think it's totally shocking and inhumane that companies give people warnings for being sick.

I think it's that they don't believe that people are sick.

When people usually are.

I've only taken a day off sick when I was genuinely sick.

The reason companies introduced stringent sickness monitoring was because there used to be a culture in many organisations where people took the piss. Some people thought they were entitled to sick leave each year regardless of if they were actually sick or not.

bluewatermelon · 10/08/2024 11:45

aodirjjd · 10/08/2024 09:31

Can you imagine how much harder it would be to be hired as a woman if employers had to legally give you 3 days off a month as well as maternity leave?

Where I live most couples share maternity leave tbf, so the employer would have to give a man 6-12 months keave which is half of it.

Abigail47 · 10/08/2024 11:44

DeclutteringNewbie · 10/08/2024 11:40

Yeah. Nobody ever takes the piss and all companies can afford to pay people that aren’t there. That’s absolutely how it works. 🙄

Pay? Where does pay come into it.

I took unpaid sick leave.

The company didn't pay me anything at all for the sick leave that I took.

I lost four days pay, which was a lot of me. Believe me if I had been well enough to go into, I would have gone in to work.

And i still got threatened and harassed for taking unpaid sick leave, when I returned to work

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FredaFox · 10/08/2024 11:44

Anywhere Ive worked especially during probation it wouldn't have looked good to have that much sickness
I'm not sure of my allowance as I've not had a day off sick for years but the longer you've worked there the more days you get at full pay which for serious illness is great

Like others it's not so much the days but the amount of instances so 4 instances in 12 months you'd speak to hr. Obvs depending on why you were off they may just look to see if we can make adjustments at work to support but if it's always a cold or something minor it may get looked at differently

Every company I've worked at you also get a return to work meeting and form filled in

I imagine you are quick to say you aren't going in rather than just getting in with it

Backwoods57 · 10/08/2024 11:42

I am given 10 days a year sick time, on top of my holiday. If I am sick longer than 2 weeks it's unpaid. I never use more than 2-3 days per year

DeclutteringNewbie · 10/08/2024 11:40

Abigail47 · 10/08/2024 11:39

I think it's totally shocking and inhumane that companies give people warnings for being sick.

I think it's that they don't believe that people are sick.

When people usually are.

I've only taken a day off sick when I was genuinely sick.

Yeah. Nobody ever takes the piss and all companies can afford to pay people that aren’t there. That’s absolutely how it works. 🙄

Marshtit · 10/08/2024 11:40

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 10/08/2024 11:35

I've had covid 3 times in 7 months, couldn't get out of bed each time, and boy, am I in trouble with my job. I'm on a warning.

how on earth?

Abigail47 · 10/08/2024 11:39

I think it's totally shocking and inhumane that companies give people warnings for being sick.

I think it's that they don't believe that people are sick.

When people usually are.

I've only taken a day off sick when I was genuinely sick.

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blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 10/08/2024 11:35

I've had covid 3 times in 7 months, couldn't get out of bed each time, and boy, am I in trouble with my job. I'm on a warning.

Abigail47 · 10/08/2024 11:33

aodirjjd · 10/08/2024 09:31

Can you imagine how much harder it would be to be hired as a woman if employers had to legally give you 3 days off a month as well as maternity leave?

It wouldn't be harder at all. Especially as employers are not allowed to discriminate.

Employers already hire women who they know they will have to give long maternity leave to, of the woman gets pregnant.

Women go through different biological conditions than men, and this should be catered for.

Spain has implemented menstrual leave for all women

Only three days per year but its better than the UK

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