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He does not want to work

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what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 12:50

AIBU to think he does not want to work?

Ok he stopped working because of arthritis and he was on sick pay insurance for 3 years (half his monthly salary paid monthly) not enough to look after a family of 4

Yes his leg is not great but I think there are jobs he can still do but refused

His insurance pay is now finished and I said to him to do some sport coaching training so that he can volunteer at our sons running club or football club or just train our son or just to stay active as advised by the doctor but he said he can't do the training because of his leg.

I said take a small customer service remote job he said no

I said do meta blue print training or the Google version online, he said no.

He is home all day everyday watching TV and hasn't missed and football matches in 3 years .

AIBU here? Because, I don't see any reason y he can't find a job to do at all. He is very lazy and would rather wallow in poverty than
get up and work.

Pls can anyone suggest any other job that someone with arthritis (knee) can do?

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Mumofoneandone · 09/08/2024 14:16

A friend has absolutely crippling arthritis but he worked FT until recent retirement and swam most days to help. He also engages with medical professionals re drugs etc to manage his condition.
Sorry to say your other half is opting out of finding some work that can be managed with arthritis. Ultimatum time!

Izzynohopanda · 09/08/2024 14:05

So He knew his money was coming to an end and he made no plans going forward to work, re-train, look for jobs, volunteer (to get experience) etc?

Sorry, you gave a cocklodger on your hands.

Normallynumb · 09/08/2024 14:00

Firstly there is no such thing as a common law husband.. That's positive as you don't need to divorce
Many people with disabilities work obviously sports coaching is not the best plan but he could do a desk job or anything really
He may have Arthritis but his main diagnosis is lazy- itis

AnotherNew01 · 09/08/2024 13:57

physiotherapist here. We do a programme called GLA:D - Good Living with Arthritis from Denmark. It sounds similar to what @Happyher did through her gym. An exercise programme with a home follow up. I'm sure your local NHS has similar. We have very positive results.

As a rule of thumb, on a scale of 0-10, if your pain is below 5, continue with your exercise. 6-10 rest. Your partner has gamed the system and, to me, fraudulently claimed he 'couldn't' work whereas he really 'wouldn't' work. Mild to moderate arthritis is manageable and people are in all sorts of jobs with it.

BTW can't you lose money too with online trading? I'd be giving this man an ultimatum - job or leave, immediately.

Coralsunset · 09/08/2024 13:55

@what2do2donow

Do you rent? Privately? Housing Ass? Or Council?

Do you own?

Whose name is on tenancy or deeds?

VotesForWomen · 09/08/2024 13:53

Most "online trading" is a scam, and even if he's genuinely doing trading legitimately himself he is highly likely to lose money - you need to know more about what scheme he's got himself into, what platforms he's using, any agents, google the shit about them plus the word Scam to see if it is a scam, and even if it isn't, agree with him how big his pot of money for gambling (which is what it is) is. Which I would set pretty fucking low, because I'd bet money(!) on him net losing money, and that's family money that should be supporting his struggling family. I don't blame you for getting your ducks in a row to leave.

what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 13:53

Madamecholetsbonnet · 09/08/2024 13:48

What’s your housing situation?

I would make my financial plans then dump him.

I have plans and waiting for things to fall into place

I wanna leave with the kids my life would be mush easier but not for the kids because they adore their dad

I also do not like his parenting style at all

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AGodawfulsmallaffair · 09/08/2024 13:53

what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 12:53

How do I stop funding?

He is a common law partner/husband we have 2 kids both under 13.

Do I cook meals just for me and the kids?🤦🏾‍♀️

You dump him, that’s what you do, and get on with your life. What a waste of space.

yestoanother50 · 09/08/2024 13:50

I have one like that. He's leaving next week. Even now he's looking to benefits and has talked about asking his dad for help. There are jobs in McDonalds paying more than he'll get on benefits but no, he couldn't just work to get money. The relief I'm starting to feel now the end is in sight is immense. You know you'll feel the same. What I'm learning is that a partner is supposed to be in a partnership with you, and that means you balance the load between you not defer everything to one because the other is down. I also learned that people with depression will feel bad about not doing things that their partner needs them to do. No such self-awareness here, just an ongoing pity party. Did he contribute more before he went on long term sick? Has he after made you feel looked after/secure/loved? It was a big fat now for me, when I asked myself that.

VotesForWomen · 09/08/2024 13:50

what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 13:48

He is always telling me he is trading online. He is and was extremely serious about it months ago but I haven't seen that seriousness lately and he claims to be making some little money from it.
But then I told him he can still get a remote job for income and still do his trading but he refused saying he can't do a remote customer service job.

I thought the problem was that if he had gotten a job, his income protection insurance payment would stop and he does not want to lose free money to getting a job but then he would get about £200 to £300 more if he gets a customer service job and forfeits his income protection insurance
But then, he would most probably not be able to do the sch runs and we live far from the kids sch.

That aside, there are things he can do online for extra income. It is just disgusting to see him not working and watching football all day. And actively looking for ways we can cut expenses which is ridiculous because I refused to do it especially for the kids.

Oh wait hang on, he is still getting an insurance pay out? Does it have an end date?

VotesForWomen · 09/08/2024 13:49

YANBU. Arthritis in the knee, even if very bad, doesn't exclude you from doing a job that involves sitting down. There are lots of those.

I'd bet my bottom dollar that if you left him, he'd find a job sharpish. He just thinks he needn't bother.

Who pays for the football tickets?

what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 13:48

He is always telling me he is trading online. He is and was extremely serious about it months ago but I haven't seen that seriousness lately and he claims to be making some little money from it.
But then I told him he can still get a remote job for income and still do his trading but he refused saying he can't do a remote customer service job.

I thought the problem was that if he had gotten a job, his income protection insurance payment would stop and he does not want to lose free money to getting a job but then he would get about £200 to £300 more if he gets a customer service job and forfeits his income protection insurance
But then, he would most probably not be able to do the sch runs and we live far from the kids sch.

That aside, there are things he can do online for extra income. It is just disgusting to see him not working and watching football all day. And actively looking for ways we can cut expenses which is ridiculous because I refused to do it especially for the kids.

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Madamecholetsbonnet · 09/08/2024 13:48

What’s your housing situation?

I would make my financial plans then dump him.

WhereYouLeftIt · 09/08/2024 13:45

what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 13:11

Does the sch runs and some other errands

So - not much. No cleaning, no cooking, no meal planning, no grocery shopping, no mental load. Just watching the telly and school runs. And some errands.Sad

There are non-financial contributions to the household, it isn't necessary for someone to be working and bringing home a wage for them to be pulling their weight. But he's making close to zero contribution, isn't he?

AgnesX · 09/08/2024 13:45

He could retrain in something sedentary, unless he's too stupid. The job centre could probably make suggestions...

Happyher · 09/08/2024 13:44

I have knee arthritis which was initially very painful but after 6 month at gym twice a week it’s very manageable and I could do any job that doesn’t require a lot of standing or walking. I did the Nuffield Health joint pain programme which gives you free access to their gyms for 6 months and some sessions on pain management, diet, exercise, sleep etc. it changed my life. Can now walk 4 miles and pain is just a minor annoyance.

CLola24 · 09/08/2024 13:42

I used to work in a police control room and some of my colleagues were in wheelchairs. If he wanted to work, he would be working.

Catza · 09/08/2024 13:42

InSpainTheRain · 09/08/2024 13:39

A lot of ppl seem to indicate he could do a desk job etc but we haven't heard how recently his arthritis flared up. You mention hospital but when did he come out of hospital?

PS Coaching is a bad idea - because if seen it could kill his benefits (even if volunteering and only able to do a couple of hours due to pain).

He is unemployed for 3 years. His last hospital admission was 2 years ago.

JoyousPinkPeer · 09/08/2024 13:42

When you say he hasn't mussed a football match in 3 years do you mean on tv or standing/sitting watching for 90 minutes in all weathers. If the latter he's just lazy.
Not a good role model for the children.

letsjustdothis · 09/08/2024 13:41

You're in a good position, not married, main earner, already used to doing everything for everyone, somewhere to live.

So kick him out. It will be less hassle and work for you, day to day.

If he wanted a job he would get one, and if you make him he will end up quitting or being fired. Not a good example for your kids.

InSpainTheRain · 09/08/2024 13:39

A lot of ppl seem to indicate he could do a desk job etc but we haven't heard how recently his arthritis flared up. You mention hospital but when did he come out of hospital?

PS Coaching is a bad idea - because if seen it could kill his benefits (even if volunteering and only able to do a couple of hours due to pain).

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 09/08/2024 13:36

good grief - you got stuck with a lazy one there
get rid !!!

Howmanycatsistoomany · 09/08/2024 13:35

He's in his mid 40's and only worked low paid jobs for about 10 years only before the arthritis

So what was he doing from 18-mid thirties?

Crikeyalmighty · 09/08/2024 13:34

He may have arthritis- he also has 'lazyitis ' there are many mumsnetters working with arthritis, cancer, Chronic blood illnesses, MS - you name it- if it's bad then yes he won't do well in a physical job but there are remote call centre jobs etc out there or data admin jobs- they are in demand because others too are in this position but he isn't even trying

pinkyredrose · 09/08/2024 13:32

Are you married? If not then you're living together.

Do you think he could be depressed?

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