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He does not want to work

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what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 12:50

AIBU to think he does not want to work?

Ok he stopped working because of arthritis and he was on sick pay insurance for 3 years (half his monthly salary paid monthly) not enough to look after a family of 4

Yes his leg is not great but I think there are jobs he can still do but refused

His insurance pay is now finished and I said to him to do some sport coaching training so that he can volunteer at our sons running club or football club or just train our son or just to stay active as advised by the doctor but he said he can't do the training because of his leg.

I said take a small customer service remote job he said no

I said do meta blue print training or the Google version online, he said no.

He is home all day everyday watching TV and hasn't missed and football matches in 3 years .

AIBU here? Because, I don't see any reason y he can't find a job to do at all. He is very lazy and would rather wallow in poverty than
get up and work.

Pls can anyone suggest any other job that someone with arthritis (knee) can do?

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HarrytheHobbit · 09/08/2024 18:06

I am riddled with arthritis and still work full time. What you have is a classic cocklodger.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 09/08/2024 17:57

EI12 · 09/08/2024 17:27

You can't work due to autism, but you can do admin and issue advice on MN? I have never heard anything like this ever before....

Working at home and actually going out to work for an employer, who expects you to be reliable when you know that’s not possible all the time, are two different things.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 09/08/2024 17:55

I have a congenital disability - spina bifida. Causes all kinds of neurological problems too varied to list here. Diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis three years ago - affects hands, shoulders, and lower limbs already affected by spina bifida. I’m doubly incontinent as a result of disability, have two stomas, and have recently had a diagnosis of breast cancer. I’m still working. No alternative. I’m really sorry because I try not to judge. But if I can get my arse out to work, so can he.

Sparsely · 09/08/2024 17:50

He sounds a bit depressed. Arthritis can be very painful and wears you down.
Could you suggest he starts by getingt a casual job at a football stadium - selling programs, stewarding, behind the bar. At least he'd get out the house and meet some like minded people even if the money wasn't much.
I would also say he needs to teach himself to cook, one dish at a time.

Education79 · 09/08/2024 17:48

The term "common law" partner does not confer any rights, it is just an archaic form of cohabiting partner, so make sure OP that you have wills etc in place as the rights of married partners don't apply.

Common Law marriage is only accepted as legally binding in UK law given very special circumstances which today are almost impossible to meet, that being that the vows were exchanged in a colony where there was no access to a registrar, cleric or notary or in a WW2 concentration camp between inmates.

SuzieGlass · 09/08/2024 17:47

EI12 · 09/08/2024 17:21

Tsss! You will be told in a minute, like I was, to go back to the 1870s, 'because marriage is just a piece of paper'.

I’ve had that too! I like to point out that £50 notes and house deeds are also pieces of paper…!

That said, it will work to the OP’s advantage here that they aren’t married, which is rare.

Baffled78 · 09/08/2024 17:45

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Greengrasswalks · 09/08/2024 17:34

what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 17:08

@Catza

I have said several times that I have plans & intend to when things fall into place.

So, you know what you need to do and the best time to do it - great!
What’s the point of this thread then?

Miley1967 · 09/08/2024 17:34

what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 13:10

Yes I am working from home

He does the sch runs and some errands

My plan is to move out with the kids but I want to know if perhaps IABU expecting him to work with his bad knee or if perhaps offered a work idea suitable for his condition he would actually work.

Because I have seen him put in a 100% in last job before 🤷🏽‍♀️

Plenty of people do sit down jobs with a bad knee/ s. Plenty live off sickness benefits too. Depends how bad it is and how much he wants to work to be honest. It sounds like he's got out of the habit of working which is understandable after two years. However he has a long time to go to retirement so needs to make a plan.

Belladone · 09/08/2024 17:34

Yes he can work, many people with far worst dis-ability work

my son has Oliers disease and arthritis in his knee, he is 30 years old. This year he has undergone major surgery on his leg to lengthen the bone, this has increased the pain of his knee which they are know considering replacing in the next couple of years. He took 7 weeks of for the surgery then went back mornings only for 4 weeks and is now full time apart from hospital appointments. He’s a welder !, he drives himself to and from work, yes he does sit for his job because he’s on crutches totally non weight bearing his leg is in effect broken in 2 places and held together with pins.

i would say he’s got into a rut, maybe depression has set in. Try and get him to work part time to start with.

wippandzipp · 09/08/2024 17:32

Other than term time school runs, errands a dishwasher duty, online whatever he is doing... what else does he contribute to the family? Obviously, financially, that's no longer happening? 2 kids under 13, it sounds like you're looking after 3 kids.

I'm glad you're open to taking some advice, but you need to act on some of it sooner rather than later. He could easily retrain or get a desk job, his reluctance is shameful.

EI12 · 09/08/2024 17:30

Octavia64 · 09/08/2024 13:12

Ok, so a number of things,

Firstly in the U.K. there is no such thing as common law husband. What you have there legally is a boyfriend. Unless you own the house together then you can just kick him out.

Secondly, if he is in serious pain and it's impacting him badly, such that he cannot work (and I don't know if this is the case) he can claim contributions based Employment and support allowance which is for situations when someone is too ill (either temporarily or permanently) to work. If he has the right level of contributions then a year is automatic and he may get more time/more money if he has other issues (which he clearly does)

Thirdly, there are plenty of jobs you can do without walking but he'd need to have the skills for them and a lot of jobs do just reject anyone disabled as too much hassle. Again, if he contacts the job centre because he has a physical disability they may be able to offer a specialist disability coach who can help.

Fourthly, the nhs rations knew replacements quite hard. I know someone who can't work in his normal job (gardener) as he is waiting for a knee replacement but the nhs won't do it until he's older because otherwise it might wear out before he dies. So he's on benefits and in pain while he waits.

Firstly, my neighbour's girlfriend took him to court and successfully split the house (she was not on the title), and claimed maintenance for her one child. I would not be so hasty in thinking that an English court would be OK with kicking a boyfriend out. He can jolly well claim.

EI12 · 09/08/2024 17:27

Navypinks · 09/08/2024 13:05

He sounds lazy. I can’t work due to autism but I make sure I do everything in the house and to do with the dc and all admin etc . He sounds like he’s just watching football? Maybe have a stronger worded conversation and give him an ultimatum?

You can't work due to autism, but you can do admin and issue advice on MN? I have never heard anything like this ever before....

LBFseBrom · 09/08/2024 17:25

what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 15:48

I will like to know too. Why does it matter?

It's lazy.

KreedKafer · 09/08/2024 17:24

I am just sick and tired of living with a lazy deadbeat Person

Don't live with a lazy deadbeat person, then. You've already said you're planning to leave him. You don't need to find the man a job first, you know.

LizzieBennett73 · 09/08/2024 17:21

He sounds like a cocklodger.

No wonder you've got no respect for him.

EI12 · 09/08/2024 17:21

SuzieGlass · 09/08/2024 12:57

There’s no such thing as a “common-law” husband. You’re not married and your boyfriend is leeching off of you.

Tsss! You will be told in a minute, like I was, to go back to the 1870s, 'because marriage is just a piece of paper'.

ComealongMartha · 09/08/2024 17:20

I would imagine that communication within this relationship is absolutely infuriating!

Are you as avoidant in real life as you are on here?

KreedKafer · 09/08/2024 17:20

what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 17:08

@Catza

I have said several times that I have plans & intend to when things fall into place.

What things are going to 'fall into place' before you can leave him, though? You don't love him and you've lost any respect you had for him, so I think you're probably past the point in your relationship where it's going to make any difference whether he has a job or not.

Still confused about the house you own, but don't want to live in, although did at some point live in 'for a facade', to be honest.

FranceIsWhereItsAt · 09/08/2024 17:18

So you want everyone to agree with you that he's a lazy bastard, which we've all done. You've told me off for asking what's actually stopping you leaving, as you 'have plans & intend to when things fall into place'. So what exactly is the point of continuing this thread? You've got what you wanted, you won't tell us what your 'plans' are or what you're waiting for. This whole thread seems pointless now, so I'm off to find something worth reading about.

what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 17:16

@tooeasy

The children are fine and have the best of the best so there is no need for "poor children " statement

I work and I have and I am able to provide the best of all that they need.

I am just sick and tired of living with a lazy deadbeat Person

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LittleGreenDragons · 09/08/2024 17:16

Why are people throwing out driving jobs on this thread? Of course he can't become a taxi or bus driver with a very painful, swollen knee 🙄

I can understand why he now might be scared of returning to work, anxiety, depression etc, but that should not have stopped him from stepping up at home by him doing all the cleaning, shopping, laundry, childcare etc. I suspect the OP wouldn't be so done if he had.

EatTheGnome · 09/08/2024 17:15

what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 15:49

Oh no, I am not worried that he will be entitled to anything. I wrote common law just indicate that we have been together for a very long time etc

He's got no claim to nothing because I bought and own everything in the house and own the house so 🤷🏽‍♀️

I wouldn't be too sure if he is the father of your kids and puts in for custody. Get legal advice and act on it.

ilovesooty · 09/08/2024 17:15

what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 15:49

Oh no, I am not worried that he will be entitled to anything. I wrote common law just indicate that we have been together for a very long time etc

He's got no claim to nothing because I bought and own everything in the house and own the house so 🤷🏽‍♀️

Just kick him out then. He's idle, taking the piss and you don't even like or respect him by the sound of it.

what2do2donow · 09/08/2024 17:12

Charlize43 · 09/08/2024 17:09

Mid 40s?

He still has 25 years left of working life. Have him retrain as a bus driver or remote home worker or call centre work, etc.

I'd give him an ultimatum that he either works at something or you split. Does he really expect to laze around watching TV for the next 25 years? There are people with much worse ailments who get to work everyday.

What type of example is he setting for your children?

Exactly my thoughts but he wouldn't listen to any thing about getting done remote job to do or retraining to do something else or even if it's just for the knowledge to help the kids o volunteer at their sport club.

I have frequent talk with my son on what is expected of him as an adult & I will continue to have that talk even after I move out with them

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