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'Sneaking' two extra children into hotel room booked for two adults and two children

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AlbertCamel · 09/08/2024 09:04

AIBU in thinking this may have implications regarding insurance etc?

Friend is off on holiday later today to a large hotel abroad with her DH and four DC aged between 4 and 16. Not a package, no meals included and flights were booked separately.

The room has a small bedroom, bathroom and living area with a sofa bed. It sleeps 4. They've booked it for two adults and two children. That's the maximum number of people allowed.

She wants to check in with DH, their two youngest boys and all their luggage, and have the two oldest boys wait outside until they're 'sneaked' in a little while later.

I think that whilst this is logistically possible, it will have implications but not sure what these implications might be. Friend thinks there's no problem with this and nobody will bat an eyelid.

AIBU in saying it's not a good idea?

OP posts:
MairifaeInsch · 10/08/2024 20:40

I can't be judgemental as I have sneaked 2 dogs into a room through the window.

Sennelier1 · 10/08/2024 20:27

Her boys will sleep in the room, but what about breakfast? Will they always go out or try and have it of the buffet with two extra guests?

rosyAndMoo · 10/08/2024 20:22

I actually hope they get given wrist bands on arrival. This would restrict the elder two from being able to use the pool etc. people are so cheap!

PreciousMahoney · 10/08/2024 20:21

Am asking honestly about the fire thing. I get in a residential home firefighters can be told theres 6 adults and a dog for instance. But even if there is a fire register with a list of hotel occupants, surely in a hotel this is fluid?

Folk out clubbing others visiting someone in a room....how does that work?

LaraThot · 10/08/2024 20:18

Live a little. Can't spend life worrying about what ifs.

rosyAndMoo · 10/08/2024 20:15

Hotel manifests are given to the fire crew. They then know how many people they are looking for. They will do a head count to ensure everyone is out. If two extra kids aren’t on the manifest, but are counted, then they will miss two other people potentially. Also if they are rebooked in the event of a fire or other malfunction, the transport will only be for 4 not six and they may not be given the same type of room ie a studio that sleep 4 not a 1 bed apartment if that’s all that’s available.
I don’t think you are being unreasonable in pointing this out to your friend

fetchacloth · 10/08/2024 20:10

Fire regulations are there for a reason and this is it.

cannellonies · 10/08/2024 20:03

Anotherparkingthread · 10/08/2024 16:58

That's a lovely collection of stories.

I don't have any kids nor do I want any, so none clogging up any places I might want to stay.

Fair enough.

ExpatAl · 10/08/2024 19:53

No wonder we’re unpopular abroad. She should have paid for a place that houses six.

newfriend05 · 10/08/2024 19:38

I bucked in with my sister one night in Greece ..but had a room booked ( I couldn't get a flight for the actually day so got in late the night before ... when I took my paperwork to reception.. to get my room they said to me , we saw you last night .. they thought I was going to ask to buy an all inclusive band .. I would of been turfed out if I had not booked like I had

PreciousMahoney · 10/08/2024 19:32

Thing too is, the older kid is 16. Good bloody luck trying to deal with their rebellious stage when they can just say well you lied and cheated to take us on holiday.

Actually I do agree that its not the most heinous crime, but quite honestly apart from the cheating aspect... holidays are supposed to be relaxing and I can't see tripping over kids on lilos on the ground on my way for a piss in the middle of the night being condusive to chilling out.

I'd rather pay!

ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmmmmmmm · 10/08/2024 19:26

I work at a hotel, at night. One of the first things I do coming on shift at 11 is print a full list of guests in the hotel, and then add to it as I check guests in. This list is to give to attending fire fighters in the event of a fire. Make of that what you will.

Heythrop84 · 10/08/2024 19:04

In my working life I have twice been a fire marshal. I was also trained before H&S got over involved in everything and training include fighting real fires!In a drill or emergency we do head counts which is why visitors are signed in and out. If there was a fire in the hotel and the parents and children overcome by smoke staff would only be looking for two children. Could she live with the fact she was responsible for her children being burnt alive. She may think she is clever but she is utterly stupid and needs telling in no uncertain terms!

Summertimer · 10/08/2024 18:47

Mumsnet is a funny old place. So many people get all self righteous about screen time, people’s diets and defending schools giving detention for forgetting a ruler. But at the same time here some condone fraud.

BettyBardMacDonald · 10/08/2024 18:44

KM123456 · 10/08/2024 18:27

I work as a chambermaid/housekeeper and HATED people like your friend. Too many people in a too small space, garbage and towels overflowing, and not given credit by management for the work I had to do. She is a thief of services.

Thank you. I'm sorry you had to deal with people like that.

Can't even imagine the state the bathrooms were in.

Summertimer · 10/08/2024 18:37

Hucklemuckle · 09/08/2024 10:57

I've never had to give my passport details to a hotel 🫤

The DH is over in Europe all the time for work. He says they always look at your passport at check in. Of course he’s not on all inclusive package deal or booking through a company

RampantIvy · 10/08/2024 18:33

HVfan · 10/08/2024 18:23

Their choices don’t have consequences for you. Why do you care if they are thrown out of hotel, charged extra, die in a fire… being dramatic with the last one I hope they are fine. I think it’s not about being cheap but a matter wanting all the kids in the same room as them for safety. It’s very hard for hotels to manage anything with more than 2 kids in a group. Especially in another country I’d want the kids in the room with myself. Not next door.

Not even a 16 year old with 2 siblings?

The other option is one parent in each room with 2 children. It isn't difficult.

Why so defensive? I don't think the OP cares, and neither do I, but she has an opinion as do I and many others on this thread.

KM123456 · 10/08/2024 18:27

I work as a chambermaid/housekeeper and HATED people like your friend. Too many people in a too small space, garbage and towels overflowing, and not given credit by management for the work I had to do. She is a thief of services.

croydon15 · 10/08/2024 18:26

It's totally stupid if she is found out she will be kicked out. Anyway it's defrauding the hotel she should have booked 2 rooms not one.

HVfan · 10/08/2024 18:23

Their choices don’t have consequences for you. Why do you care if they are thrown out of hotel, charged extra, die in a fire… being dramatic with the last one I hope they are fine. I think it’s not about being cheap but a matter wanting all the kids in the same room as them for safety. It’s very hard for hotels to manage anything with more than 2 kids in a group. Especially in another country I’d want the kids in the room with myself. Not next door.

Mumoftwochildrenand6furkids · 10/08/2024 18:19

That is such an stupid idea for safety reason the hotel needs to know whos there in case of fire or something also 4 children 1 aged 16 all sleeping together on an sofa bed so wrong.

Oldtigernidster · 10/08/2024 18:17

Quite simply fraud.

Yoonimum · 10/08/2024 18:06

AlbertCamel · 09/08/2024 09:24

Oldest two are quite big for their age and the 16 year old could easily pass as an adult. They plan to buy lilos/ inflatable beds for the youngest two who are apparantly looking forward to sleeping on them. All four kids will be in the living room, parents in the bedroom.

And what about bed linen? Your friend is crazy!

Yoonimum · 10/08/2024 18:06

AlbertCamel · 09/08/2024 09:24

Oldest two are quite big for their age and the 16 year old could easily pass as an adult. They plan to buy lilos/ inflatable beds for the youngest two who are apparantly looking forward to sleeping on them. All four kids will be in the living room, parents in the bedroom.

And what about bed linen? Your friend is crazy!

PreciousMahoney · 10/08/2024 17:31

Anotherparkingthread · 09/08/2024 22:00

But I'm not the owner of the hotel and neither are you lol.

This entire thread is full of the type of people who have never snook into a festival or gone anywhere where they didn't have their hands held.

If you think this is ab enormous crime and hugely immoral you're a fool who's been wrapped in cotton wool and candy floss all their lives.

I feel a kind of pity for you but also can't help but laugh. Enjoy the moral high ground while I enjoy my free hotel room.

Oh goodness you are a hoot aren't you.

You feel pity for me, who has no problem affording and paying for my hotel room while you sneak and hide and squish yourself into a room to get it free.

Bless your cotton socks

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