'Sneaking' two extra children into hotel room booked for two adults and two children

It’s irrelevant whether they are caught or not it’s dishonest!

I don't think there are enough interconnecting rooms TBH, but this won't prevent cheapskates from cramming more children than they can afford into one hotel room.

The best option we had on one holiday was a small bedroom off our main bedroom when we booked a family room when DD was 5. It was brilliant.

Please you can book two connecting rooms or a two beds suite in the hotel. Or even go to an apartment outside a hotel more suitable for big families. If they can’t afford it may be do not go. However, the poor aspect is weaponised. Who know if they can afford it and are just cheap skates?

Pretty sure if this family does this. Many others do as well. I can only feel sorry for the kids of adults doing this. I wonder how the people calling for taxes in “luxury “ education feel about this. If you can’t afford to travel do not go right? Two kids too many ( yes circumstances change). Poor kids if they get find out.

Two more people are taking extra resource - water, electricity, no doubt someone is sneaking food to them from breakfast.

You sound very defensive. You don't know how "extortionate" this holiday is. As the family sound like cheapskates anyway I doubt that it would be an expensive holiday in the first place.

You make it sound like the hotel is out to rob them.

Whatever your friend is doing (rightly or wrongly) is absolutely none of your business.

And now you've got the holidaying Brits looking for 2 kids sneaking in the back door. It'll be the talk around the pool🤣

Why do you say prices are extortionate?

Please give us a line by line breakdown of hotel economics and tell you us where the "extortionate" aspects are. Thanks.

Oh get off your high horse. If they aren’t taking any resource from the hotel like all inclusive, why does it bloody matter if some big hotel chain isn’t getting the extortionate price for several rooms if they aren’t experiencing the luxury of several rooms. You sound like a very kill joy friend tbh.

It is silly because if caught they’ll be kicked out… only takes for another guest to complain/dob them in…
BUT with the price of holidays atm I don’t blame them for trying, I’d be terrified of getting caught though. And how will the sons sneak in and out daily … what if they all have to wear wrist bands?!

I think they are fools, but it's really not something you need to get involved in.

In fact, I’ve literally said “that’s the fallout from being blessed with a large family”.

We do book two rooms??? I’ve literally said there that I’ve booked two.

‘Trying to make money out of everything?’

That’s how capitalism and business works. They aren’t running a charity.

We don’t know that they friend couldn’t book a room large enough or that the hotel doesn’t provide them, just that she doesn’t want to pay. She could have chosen a different hotel or booked an apartment or villa, but that isn’t the chose she made.

Yes.

You'd expect all hotels to have rooms for six people? That's what apartments or villas with multiple bedrooms are for. If you only want to stay in a hotel and you have four kids, you'd expect to need more than one room.

One issue here is that hotels don't make provisions for larger families, or families with young kids that don't need an extra room, but to be allowed to have all their kids in one room. To be made to pay for something you do not needs is a ripoff. Behaviours like sneaking people into a hotel are a direct consequence of trying to make money out of everything.

No it is not OK.
Not only is it morally wrong it will likely invalidate their insurance.

Not sure I could do it to that level for a full holiday, but I have done it here in the uk for 1 night breaks with three kids (two teens and 1 5-8). The price would be ridiculous for literally somewhere to go into, sleep and get up when the little one easily fit between us in the big bed

Well I think your basic point is reasonable but arguing with your friend, falling out about it and posting about it on mums net is, I think, unreasonable. As others have said it has nothing to do with you and I’m sure your friend will cope on holiday and everything will be fine. Move on…

True - but it's the 0.1% that leaves you with lifelong regrets.

People like to say it, especially when faced with guests who've tried to get a free ride, and (at least in the UK) most places are licenced for a certain number of people and areas inspected for emergency exits to make sure they're appropriate and placed well, so over occupation can prove an issue.

And I absolutely don't agree with what the OP's friend is doing, and yes if the worst happened then identifying people gets tricky if there's people there that the hotel are unaware of, but ime the fire service absolutely don't take your word for it, quite without extra snuck in guests, staff move around and mistakes happen (there's threads about people being given room keys to already occupied rooms for example) the fire service know all this and plan accordingly - we have bi-annual inspections and the building plans are checked and the evacuation plan.

As I said in a pp though, the most important thing is getting out if you hear the alarm, the only exception being if you're told it's a test/drill. Far too many people are complacent when it comes to fire alarms.

That's a lot of people for 1 room. I am even struggling to find rooms ( holiday inns and similar) to accommodate 2 adults and 2 kids, for some reason they are all now 3 people only for those rooms with a sofa bed 🤷‍♀️

I wouldn't and couldn't do it because the guilt would show on my face and I would spend the holiday being nervous and jumpy whenever I saw a member of staff. The cleaners will also know how many should be in the room.

Thank you so much for clarifying and I thought that would be the case.

The reason I asked is because there are so many posters saying that 'they would only look for 4 people ' and couldn't get my head round how that would be the case!

It is fluid and the plans are based on that, not just for guests but for staff too.

When I'm the duty manager I know how many staff I'm expecting and their location area (chefs kitchen, bar staff the bar etc) - but I don't know their exact location, it's just not feasible to have every member of staff report their exact location each time they move, chefs go to get ingredients, bar staff go to the cellar, waiting staff deliver room service - in the event that one of them doesn't report I'd tell the fire service where they might be but especially in the case of housekeeping they could be anywhere in the hotel realistically.

And guests come and go, and even if you asked them to sign in/out it's highly unlikely each person would, every time.

It'd be likely treated like a fire in a shopping centre or supermarket, somewhere you can never be sure how many people are there - the fire service search for as long as they can or until they've cleared each area.

The list is a starting point, but not the be all and end all.