'Sneaking' two extra children into hotel room booked for two adults and two children

I would possibly take the risk if it was 1 night in this country and I was able to get alternative accommodation but no way would I risk it for a 10 day abroad holiday.

Why risk your entire holiday or get a big fine.
Its just not worth the risk.

The entire holiday will revolve around sneaking them in and out.

She could have phoned them up and asked for a 2 bedroom or had the 2 separate rooms.

Well done for trying to make her see sense but I wouldn’t argue about it with her.
She’s an adult and can take her own risks.

Basically she's going on a holiday she can't afford? Sounds fun for the children. Or not.

How is your friend planning on supplying the sheets etc to go on the lilos? This is nuts.

I have a friend who is a hotel manager in Spain. They kick out people sneaking extra adults/kids into rooms regularly. They are offered to pay for another room or they have to leave immediately.

Your friend is an idiot, not for sneaking them in, for putting her family in what is going to be a hell of a holiday in a tiny room. Spanish accommodation is very tight. It will be mental in that room. If we book as a family in places like Spain or France, we look at the accommodation sizes and book a larger then beds for our family group as we know how small they can be. So if it says a 10 bed, and we are say 5 or 6 we ignore the 3 beds in the living room hell, and book it so everyone has a proper bed in an actual bedroom. Not everyone can afford that of course, but no way would I go on holiday for a week otherwise. Some bedrooms in France are in 'cabines' basically it's a wardrobe size with bunk beds !! Fine for little kids, not fine for teenagers the size of adults.

I've done this with travel lodges when my kids were small. I mean it was only for 1 night but honestly we would have all squidged in together anyway. I wasn't going to pay twice the price for no reason. Smallest in bed bed with us and my other 2 in the singles.

I really couldn't get bothered by this.

We have just been abroad and booked a 2 bed room but one of my kids still had to sleep on the bloody sofa even though they could have easily fitted another bed in the 2nd room.

Oh I let behaviour like your friend’s wind me up far too much, and I’ll be the first to admit it. I’d be livid that they’re being disorganised and cheap, furious that they’re probably stealing food - if the hotel thinks it’s got 100 guests and a few families bring “bonus” kids, the food might be in meagre supply (There - see how my blood boils irrationally? 😂). I’d also be anxious that the hotel would ask for passports and they’d get found out, and that the children would be anxious all holiday.

However, firstly it’s none of my business, and secondly we all know what will happen - the friend will come home all happy and nothing bad will have happened. People who behave like this seem to bounce through life unaffected, and they tend to have children with similarly thick skin. So all my ire will only have hurt me. 😡

I still think it’s skanky behaviour though.

I worked in hotels for many years, and still work with hotels now. The hotel's liability insurances will all be tied into occupancy.

In terms of fire, if there are 4 people on the rooming list and the fire brigade go drag out 4 unconscious individuals in a smoke filled room they won't go back looking under the beds for the small ones that hid in fright. In answer to above posts I've never encountered a hotel that allows guests to rock up with a one night stand or other additional guest. Some night staff might look the other way, but it's no more allowed than what the OP's friend is proposing.

Lastly, hotel staff aren't stupid. If nothing else your friend is unreasonable for thinking they are.

It feels to me like sitting in the pub and not buying a drink. You’re using the hotel facilities- water, toilets, pool - but not paying for them. Meanwhile the hotel owners are trying to run a business. It may not feel like a big deal on a one-family scale but if everyone did it the hotel would quickly struggle.

Does this mean Spain is outside Europe?
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No thats not what it means.
Look it up.

I watched that the other day. I loved that programme. Some of the topics and the language is a bit dated, but the comic timing from the main actors and their facial expressions etc. are brilliant and make it worth watching again.

hilarious

Yes, fraud. Do you not understand the word?

😂 Fraud for sneaking a couple of kids into a hotel room to sleep. It’s not even all inclusive is it?

Not just outside Europe, we were often offered rooms in France where we put extra kids in than beds. When our children were young it was very easy to put 2 in a single bed or three to four in a double. Back when I was young my husband travelled a lot for work he had to book as a single and I'd sneak in, hotels don't have single rooms so he mostly had a double.

I doubt though anyone sits reviewing the cctv counting guest numbers against booked occupancy though???

You were a bit of a jobsworth pulling her up on it. Talking shite about insurance (true but seriously!) as you’ve nothing better to catch her out on.

Who cares really? Why are you so invested OP?

Im not clear how you are sure it will be fine?
Its disgraceful carry on.
People on the blag make me sick and people who rob services or anything make me sick.
People who think, ah it doesnt impact me, are wildly incorrect.
It does, every single time people perpetrate fraud, id costs the rest of us.
Wake up.

Hotels have CCTV these days, unlike in the past when once you were past reception you were home free, if they get suspicious it will be easy to spot two extra children going in and out of the room. I have asked for an extra bed in a room for two (that had no option for another bed) which the hotel did for me. Asking for two extra beds might be a bit much!

If there is an issue, annoyingly she probably won’t tell @AlbertCamel . Personally I think it’s quite scummy and is actually theft. Also my idea of hell that many people squished into a small space. But hey ho.

You never really know the capacity / layout of a hotel til you arrive. So it might be very obvious. Not sure how she will get enough linens etc for the grim sweaty lilo beds.