'Sneaking' two extra children into hotel room booked for two adults and two children

Not fair since they use the pool area without paying for it as well. They should have stopped at two children if that is what they can afford.

6 people in one room - it’s going to be very noisy. Pity the poor folk on either side of them.

If she doesn't think she is doing harm, ask her (and I suppose it's also a question for those that think it's okay and that lots of families do it):

Will their extra kids use a sunbed by the pool?
If so it means an honest paying guest can't. And in some hotels there aren't enough to go round at the best of times!

Will their extra kids use a hotel towel, either in the room or by the pool?
If so that's cleaning costs that get passed on to an honest, paying guest.

Will their extra kids use the lights or the lift without everyone else using them at the same time?
If so, that's electricity costs that get passed on to an honest, paying guest.

Will their extra kids be paying any tourism tax that's required?
If not, that's revenue lost by the country visited.

I'm sure there are many more, fairly minor things like the above, but if lots of people are doing it, then the honest people are paying more and losing out! As a "full fare" payer, that makes me quite grumpy.

And possibly most importantly...
Has she bought travel insurance for the extra kids? If she has, and god forbid anything happens she will have to give details of the hotel, the room etc and if they don't have authorised accomodation or for some reason the hotel needs to be involved (accident by the pool for example) then the insurance will be invalid and the repatriation costs may well ruin them. Even if she has EHIC card, (I'm assuming she's not daft enough to travel without that!!) it that won't cover all costs.
If she hasn't, well that's another issue and she's an idiot.

I think your friend sounds like a dimwit. She is effectively stealing. And while I am sure she is feeling smug with her 'ingenious' ploy of simply forgetting about two additional children when making the booking, the reality is going to be awful. Six people in accommodation that is meant for four (and even that is a stretch, I wouldn't dream of going on holiday and having someone sleep on a sofa) and they're going to be jammed in like sardines.

And as I said, it is stealing/deception because they should have either booked the two rooms or opt for a holiday they can actually afford.

And nobody likes to feel ripped off, that includes people working in hospitality. I'd be pissed off if I owned a hotel and in peak season two random teenagers decided to avail of week's holiday without paying anything. It's cheap and dishonest.

Four children in one living area, with two of them on lilos? Where are the older children getting their privacy from?
As much as the parents are being tight and CFers, it sounds bloody miserable for the kids!

A relative does this in the UK. Parent and 3 adult kids in one room in a Premier Inn.

It's so CF, especially as even if it's room only (not even breakfast provided) they'll be using water, toilet paper, maybe complimentary toiletries, and you say they're planning on using the pool! Will there be enough towels and bedding? Storage for clothes and cases? Sneaking extra food from the breakfast buffet is also tacky.

They may get away with it, regrettably, depending on how much the cleaners care. (They're going to notice blow up mattresses on the floor!)

I'm on holiday just now. At no point have I given my holiday address to anyone

@CheeseWisely Lots of time we've stayed in hotels on weekend breaks the doors have been locked after hours and the night porter / security checks name and room number (and amount of people booked to stay) before granting access. All the hotels I've worked in have done the same.

I have literally never, ever been asked to do a security check and confirm the number of people booked to stay before being allowed back into a locked hotel room.

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This. Sounds like a shit holiday too, especially for the teenagers.

I think hotels are now extortionate even taking into account running costs, im in Ireland and our local , run-of-the-mill hotel is around 400 per night at the weekend for a normal double and you know what I’m not sure it even includes breakfast!!!

Oh well then, that's fine. If something's too expensive for you, rather than just not go or cut your coat according to your cloth, you break the rules and squeeze the whole family in. 🙄

I have done this many many times.I don't understand how people get caught out, unless it's a very small hotel

It might he morally wrong but it isn't the reason holidays are expensive.

I couldn’t get this upset about something that doesn’t impact me and isn’t my decision. Live and let live and get on with your own life instead of asserting yourself on others.

@Izzymoon It's not nonsense as people with hotel experience are telling you; without a rooming list they'd waste time searching unoccupied rooms for a start!

Bringing an adult back is no more allowed by hotels than sneaking extra kids in. Lots of time we've stayed in hotels on weekend breaks the doors have been locked after hours and the night porter / security checks name and room number (and amount of people booked to stay) before granting access. All the hotels I've worked in have done the same.

Splitting 4 pizzas between 6 isn't invalidating Dominos' liability insurance, FFS.

They would all have had their passports registered at immigration.
Not sure if their holiday address is required - it used to be.
The hotel would inform the Local Police of the registered guests.
Spanish bureaucracy beats UK hands down.

It's a busy time of year, so possibly the 2 missing immigrants might not be noticed. I wouldn't chance it.

What are they getting for free though? Theres no additional cost to them having 3 kids in a double bed vs 2.
They are the ones dealing with being cramped in the room, you aren’t losing out at all. Why would it make your holiday any more expensive?

The fire list is nonsense. The hotel would still be searched very throughly in a fire. Many adults make a booking and bring someone back for example.

People seem weirdly pent up won’t this. Ultimately if they are happy to share I don’t get the big deal. If they order 4 takeaway pizzas to share rather than buying 6 are you pissed off about that too?

They print them out routinely every morning and keep them in the fire folder so they can grab and go in an emergency.

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This is the reason why holidays are so expensive. It's theft no matter how you look at it and businesses never take the hit the customers do so I hope everyone who's saying it's perfectly fine doesn't mind paying more for their holidays because some people can't pay for their kids.

Granted it was some years ago when I was in hotels but we had copies of an up to date rooming list printed at all times, precisely in case of fire alarm.

In case of actual fire a copy would be handed, along with a hotel floor map, to the commanding fire officer, who communicates with the rest of the team via radio.

That does not sound very comfortable for a ten-day stay, especially for the older children. What happens when the younger children are asleep and the other members of the party want to sit and chat or watch tv in the living room?

Housekeeping will absolutely notice this and they will likely be kicked out. What a rubbish holiday for those kids