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To just want plastic straws back!

329 replies

Malahide · 08/08/2024 21:16

Lighthearted - mostly!

I’m so sick of paper straws turning to mush before a drink is even finished, they just aren’t fit for purpose. Add in the awful wooden cutlery that you now get (I want my salad to actually taste like salad, not wood!!) and the cardboard takeaway containers which begin to disintegrate as soon as they touch food and all of a sudden I’m reconsidering whether the planet is really worth saving…

I’m joking of course but surely I’m not the only one who feels this way? There have to be better alternatives out there than paper, wood & cardboard that just seem to ruin everything!

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EveSix · 09/08/2024 09:50

Wendysfriend · 09/08/2024 09:44

Just to add my 2 cents worth and maybe let people see another reason plastic straws are preferable and it's not all about "just drink from the cup" or "use a paper straw"

DDS who's severely disabled can only drink using plastic straws, we were ecstatic when she started doing this from 8 years of age, before it was baby bottles and syringes .

When they banned them, the paper straws didn't work, they practically disintegrated, usually leaving lots of paper bits in her mouth which caused choking and vomiting. Due to sensory issues the silicone didn't work and the metal ones were dangerous due to biting down which most sn children do.

It's actually been a nightmare and unless in similar situation no one understands.

Her school and at therapies I found many many parents struggling feeding their children, so I found a company in the USA who bulk sell to me, they actually supply Walmart. I order from them and I give a few boxes to her school for the children who can't physically use paper straws.

And wouldn't it be great if all of us who can would lay off plastic straws so that families like yours can continue to use them? I'm pleased you have managed to source what you need.
My autistic DC1 has multiple sensory needs in relation to eating and drinking so I feel for you.

KimberleyClark · 09/08/2024 09:48

Deadringer · 09/08/2024 09:09

Surely its not beyond the skills of an average human to take off the lid and sip it? Even a fairly young child can drink from a cup/glass without spilling. (Again, disabilities aside). Or even better refuse a lid in the first place, or bring a reusable mug.

And don’t the lids have little spouts on them to facilitate drinking without spillage? I never have any problem drinking hot coffee that way.

Sheelanogig · 09/08/2024 09:47

Catza · 09/08/2024 09:13

The OP already said that she has no medical need to use a straw. If I do develop a disorder that necessitates one, I doubt my first instinct would be to post a thread about plastic straws. In fact, you might notice that disabled people are not routinely posting about this issue and are perfectly capable of advocating for themselves without a help of able-bodied individual if they choose to do so.

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At the time of plastic straws being removed, several disabled groups did put a case forward. It did get some media attention but only really circulated in communities of people it impacted.

The alternatives are getting better.
Though metal straws are grim IMO. And hygiene/cleaning them has to be paramount and easy to do otherwise have to rely on others helping you.

Wendysfriend · 09/08/2024 09:44

Just to add my 2 cents worth and maybe let people see another reason plastic straws are preferable and it's not all about "just drink from the cup" or "use a paper straw"

DDS who's severely disabled can only drink using plastic straws, we were ecstatic when she started doing this from 8 years of age, before it was baby bottles and syringes .

When they banned them, the paper straws didn't work, they practically disintegrated, usually leaving lots of paper bits in her mouth which caused choking and vomiting. Due to sensory issues the silicone didn't work and the metal ones were dangerous due to biting down which most sn children do.

It's actually been a nightmare and unless in similar situation no one understands.

Her school and at therapies I found many many parents struggling feeding their children, so I found a company in the USA who bulk sell to me, they actually supply Walmart. I order from them and I give a few boxes to her school for the children who can't physically use paper straws.

ImpossibleTh1ng · 09/08/2024 09:43

ImpossibleTh1ng · 09/08/2024 09:40

It makes you yak.🙄Seriously!

And how do you manage considering that is all that is on offer?🤔

One can only assume you use your fingers. If you’d like something to help you eat food requiring utensils there are plenty of very small reusable travel cutlery sets you might want to consider investing in.

Sunshine9218 · 09/08/2024 09:42

coffeeandsleep · 08/08/2024 21:21

agreed - these eco paper straws are not fit for purpose and turn to mush when you’re half way through the drink. And you can’t use your mouth for all drinks like thick milkshakes…. you need a decent straw. I have a metal straw that I sometimes take with me to the cinema.

Why can't you use your mouth for thick milkshakes?

ImpossibleTh1ng · 09/08/2024 09:40

Starlight1979 · 09/08/2024 09:26

Agreed! And also wooden cutlery makes me yak. Straight into the bin!

It makes you yak.🙄Seriously!

EveSix · 09/08/2024 09:31

This is such a depressing thread. We are such soft pampered ponies, it's embarrassing.

Single use plastic is a terrible thing. We all know this, really.

You don't need to be terribly old to remember growing up when drinks 'on the go' really weren't a thing. The need for disposable cups, containers, straws and cutlery are an acquired habit, and one that's causing pollution on a stratospheric scale, both in terms of fossil fuels used in manufacturing and as plastic waste in oceans, watercourses, on beaches and in landfill. We don't need to be drinking (or eating) stuff out of disposable recepticles using disposable tools. It's an expectation, a fanciful preference foisted upon us by commercial interests in a shortsighted capitalist system. I've just attended a 4-day event where participants were encouraged to bring their own mugs for take-away drinks. Literally nobody moaned.

Single use plastic obviously has its uses in medicine and medical care (although, again, hospitals did use to manage), but most healthy, able-bodied adults and children bent on drinking stuff which can only be imbibed through straws can use a reusable or biodegradable alternative. To say anything else is disingenuous. My kids have used the same set of metal straws for over a decade. To whinge about needing to clean them with a narrow brush ‐wtf!? Just crack on and do it?

And, @Malahide , it's not "light-hearted". That's the problem. "Light-hearted" threads like these amplify and normalise laziness, entitlement and I'm-alright-Jack mentality. Individuals insisting their preference and convenience should take some kind of precedence in issues like these have brought us to the brink of climate collapse and profound environmental damage.

It's p a t h e t i c.

Starlight1979 · 09/08/2024 09:26

Agreed! And also wooden cutlery makes me yak. Straight into the bin!

Catza · 09/08/2024 09:13

soupfiend · 09/08/2024 08:37

Yes thank god you do, you better hope its always like that and you dont develop disorders whereby you struggle to drink that way

The OP already said that she has no medical need to use a straw. If I do develop a disorder that necessitates one, I doubt my first instinct would be to post a thread about plastic straws. In fact, you might notice that disabled people are not routinely posting about this issue and are perfectly capable of advocating for themselves without a help of able-bodied individual if they choose to do so.

Deadringer · 09/08/2024 09:09

vickylou78 · 09/08/2024 07:43

When you've got a soft drink or iced coffee full of ice you have a lid on it to stop the ice all bashing you in the face/falling out down your front when you tip it to drink it. And as you've got a lid you need a straw. Surely obvious?
Also juice cartons etc.

Surely its not beyond the skills of an average human to take off the lid and sip it? Even a fairly young child can drink from a cup/glass without spilling. (Again, disabilities aside). Or even better refuse a lid in the first place, or bring a reusable mug.

Ofcoursehesthefkingfarmer · 09/08/2024 09:01

I just bought reusable copper straws and have a couple of metal forks in my car in case I want a salad on the go. We manage to bring our bags for life everywhere since the plaggy bag ban, surely you can organise your life enough to equip you with utensils you need if the paper straws offend you so much?

Hyperion100 · 09/08/2024 08:58

Nobody on this planet (barring people with specific disabilities) needs a straw.

fluffiphlox · 09/08/2024 08:58

I hate the feel of the paper ones so I use my own metal straw or just take the paper straw out.

ImpossibleTh1ng · 09/08/2024 08:56

There is a reason more and more countries around the world are doing it.

ImpossibleTh1ng · 09/08/2024 08:54

Stripedchutney · 09/08/2024 08:53

It’s also irrelevant what other countries are doing. There are countries in the world that do t allow girls an education. Shall we also lower ourselves to that standard? We should just do the right thing because, we’ll, it’s the right thing to do.

Lower ourselves to their standards. 😱You mean raise ourselves to their standards.

Stripedchutney · 09/08/2024 08:53

It’s also irrelevant what other countries are doing. There are countries in the world that do t allow girls an education. Shall we also lower ourselves to that standard? We should just do the right thing because, we’ll, it’s the right thing to do.

ImpossibleTh1ng · 09/08/2024 08:49

ThaTrìCaitAgam · 09/08/2024 08:43

It’s not only England. Plastic straws are prohibited in the EU too.

And China

ThaTrìCaitAgam · 09/08/2024 08:43

ShoehornSheryl · 08/08/2024 21:21

We went to America last year and the single use plastic and the like was ASTOUNDING. I’m sure other countries are the same. And yet little old England is trying to save the planet with paper straws and attaching the fecking bottle lid to the bottle.

It’s not only England. Plastic straws are prohibited in the EU too.

Stripedchutney · 09/08/2024 08:42

TinkerTiger · 09/08/2024 08:39

Piercing a juice box with one makes jr useless for drinking

So buy a reusable one then! Or better still stop buying those little cartons and get yourself a bottle to refill with drink from a large carton. It’s really is not that hard.

TinkerTiger · 09/08/2024 08:39

Piercing a juice box with one makes jr useless for drinking

KimberleyClark · 09/08/2024 08:38

Soup tastes much nicer from a wooden spoon than a metal one imo.

soupfiend · 09/08/2024 08:37

Hobbesmanc · 08/08/2024 21:19

Erm no not really. I just think about the benefits to the world. And thank god i have a mouth that can manage to drink without a straw

Yes thank god you do, you better hope its always like that and you dont develop disorders whereby you struggle to drink that way

Stripedchutney · 09/08/2024 08:37

SaintHonoria · 08/08/2024 23:06

Before the ban came in, I went on a mission and went round as many shops as I can, even ones I had never been in and I also bought on eBay and Amazon, thousands of plastic straws to stockpile.

I cannot abide paper, metal or silicone straws. Only plastic ones suffice.

Well, quite frankly, you are a bit of a then.