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To think this is not acceptable behaviour from a dad to his 8 year old son...?

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planAplanB · 08/08/2024 21:11

  • Shouting at child in anger
  • Tapping child's bottom with his hand
  • Grabbing child's wrists to get him off the sofa and move him towards the door
  • Calling child stupid
  • Claiming his mothers parenting 'lets him get away with bad behaviour'
  • Chasing child in anger around island in the kitchen shouting for him to go to his room.

I know that the above behaviour is not acceptable from an adult to their child but can anyone else tell me if their husband also does this?

It was horrible to witness. I intervened to remove husbands hands from child's wrists. Older child also witnessed this.

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planAplanB · 09/08/2024 13:50

My husband simply can't see any of his behaviour as a problem.

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caringcarer · 09/08/2024 13:44

The only time my DH ever grabbed a child arm was when DC aged 8 saw a dog across the road he knew and went to run out to fuss it but there was a bus coming. He also apologised to DC but told him he thought he'd be run over.

caringcarer · 09/08/2024 13:42

Calling a dc stupid is extremely abusive and will have long lasting effects on DC self esteem.

planAplanB · 09/08/2024 13:00

His father shouted when DS took the remote back and then child shouted in response. I didn't see when DS hit husband. Maybe when husband was trying to get remote back again? Such an over reaction. I don't really think that's the point. The problem is the way the adult dealt with the issue.

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Missamyp · 09/08/2024 12:55

planAplanB · 09/08/2024 12:51

To the above poster - it's just ONE parent behaving like this. I'm not.

You haven't answered why your son is arguing over a remote so much that he feels it's ok to strike a parent and then refuse to go to his room.

This is what I mean by chaotic.

QforCucumber · 09/08/2024 12:51

@Missamyp because noone teaches you how to be a parent except your own experience and OP has already said this was her experience as a child and she is trying to break that cycle but it's made harder when you have no real life comparisons

planAplanB · 09/08/2024 12:51

To the above poster - it's just ONE parent behaving like this. I'm not.

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Missamyp · 09/08/2024 12:46

planAplanB · 09/08/2024 12:29

Yes my 8 year old shouted at DH to give the remote back. Apparently he hit his father too. DS has now apologised for hitting my husband. STBEXH has reluctantly apologised to my son for his aggressive actions. I forced the conversation as my husband was not having any of it, claiming his behaviour was reasonable. I basically said that daddy shouldn't have lost control of his temper and grabbed/chased you and he's sorry, for which husband then agreed he was sorry. He's a fucking man-child.

Your household sounds utterly chaotic.
Why are the parents and the children hitting each other, and shouting?
Parental communication skills sound shocking.

drspouse · 09/08/2024 12:41

StSwithinsDay · 08/08/2024 21:42

Maybe report him to the police for assaulting her children and have him removed from the home. Get a non-molestation order.
Do those children have to live like this for however long it will take them to get divorced?

I'm pretty sure none of this counts as assault unfortunately.
If you don't want him having access to them then after splitting you could talk to Social Services.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 09/08/2024 12:38

No, my children never had this type of treatment from their father.
My second husband was a drunk but never treated his children like this while they stayed with us.
My sons in law would never do any of these things. They’re no push over and expect their children to behave but I can’t imagine either of them doing any of this.

Your husband is taking his anger ( over the divorce ? Your living situation? Something else?) out on a child. So wrong and will do so much harm to both your children.
Can only suggest you speak to Women’s Aid, your solicitor maybe.

Dominoeffecter · 09/08/2024 12:33

StSwithinsDay · 08/08/2024 21:27

Yes there must be plenty of fathers who abuse their children, and mothers who are complicit in allowing it. Your children are in the unlucky position of having exactly those parents.

Just so simplistic

planAplanB · 09/08/2024 12:31

I've told my RL friend so someone else knows and I can't be gaslighted if I bring this up in the future.

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planAplanB · 09/08/2024 12:30

I'm not turning a blind eye to this.

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planAplanB · 09/08/2024 12:29

RedHelenB · 09/08/2024 12:13

So did your son hit and shout at dh?

Yes my 8 year old shouted at DH to give the remote back. Apparently he hit his father too. DS has now apologised for hitting my husband. STBEXH has reluctantly apologised to my son for his aggressive actions. I forced the conversation as my husband was not having any of it, claiming his behaviour was reasonable. I basically said that daddy shouldn't have lost control of his temper and grabbed/chased you and he's sorry, for which husband then agreed he was sorry. He's a fucking man-child.

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CanYouHearThatNoise · 09/08/2024 12:15

I'm not sure whether it would be classed as abuse, but quite clearly, the father is unable to assert himself effectively without the need for shouting and chasing the kid around. He sounds pathetic.

RedHelenB · 09/08/2024 12:13

So did your son hit and shout at dh?

Proudbitch · 09/08/2024 11:27

planAplanB · 08/08/2024 21:37

I don't know how to make him stop shouting at our son and grabbing him to get him to his room. I stepped in to make him let go. I removed my husband hands from DS arms. Husband is now sulking in his room. We're divorcing. This happens infrequently, maybe once every couple of months. What would people suggest I do? Maybe I should take them down to my mums tomorrow. We just can't up and leave permenantly though.

It’s not your fault. It’s not easy leaving and accepting abuse either. So give yourself some credit for recognising this and seeking ways to help you and your children.

Dont take any blame for this yourself. And you are not alone. We’ve got your back.

alldayeveryday247 · 09/08/2024 11:24

letsjustdothis · 09/08/2024 10:47

My dad was like this so it sounds normal to me (90s child).

Do you have children? Would you really be happy to watch their other parent do the things OP outlined in her post, just because your dad did similar?

mm81736 · 09/08/2024 10:57

Apart from calling him stupid, nothing too bad.

letsjustdothis · 09/08/2024 10:47

My dad was like this so it sounds normal to me (90s child).

5128gap · 09/08/2024 10:37

He should also be reminded that this type of 'discipline' is a temporary 'privilege'. Before long it's likely his son will be bigger stronger and fitter than he is. It's rather foolish to establish a dynamic where by the most able male controls through anger and violence. I've seen this backfire very badly on fathers of sons.

5128gap · 09/08/2024 10:33

Your husband needs to have a radical rethink. Somewhere along his journey to becoming an adult male he failed to take on board the essential life lesson, that with greater physical strength comes great responsibility, for self control, for active restraint and gentleness. He simply cannot go around indulging his anger in any way he sees fit as he will intimidate and hurt people. If he isn't willing to accept this most basic of truths, then unfortunately there is no hope and he cannot be trusted around a child.

basketlamp · 09/08/2024 10:17

Husband needs to apologise for his incredibly awful behaviour. The poor children. Yes adults get angry and he sounds very stressed - but he can't take this out on those who he is meant to protect. It's not on.

He must apologise to them. Speak to children and say dad's behaviour isn't right.

Then ask your husband to seek some help. People get stressed and do things they shouldn't, but that's his children and he has to help himself to be a better person.

lastminpanic23 · 09/08/2024 10:09

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/08/2024 09:38

Yes there are other dads who do these things. They’re nasty bastards too.
Why are you trying to minimise this?

It's not about minimising it. But what can she do? It's horrible but not illegal. She can and probably should leave him but it won't stop him treating the child like this. If anything he'll have free rein to do it without his mother being there to step in. It's an awful situation.

rrrrrreatt · 09/08/2024 09:49

Other dads do this but that doesn’t make it ok. My stepdad was one of those dads and my mum turned a blind eye and blamed me if pushed on it.

It impacted me well beyond childhood - when I was younger I had emotionally and physically abusive partners. I had to learn what a healthy relationship was because I thought fear, belittling comments and violence were part of love. I still jump easily at loud noises or unexpected movements, 20+ years later. My relationship with my mum is permanently impacted by her failure to protect me - she is not a person I can be open or close with because I don’t feel safe with her.

Your son’s deserve a safe home where they’re protected from an adult’s inability to regulate his emotions. You need to start dialogue with them now about his unacceptable behaviour too - once you’re divorced you won’t be there to see it and if they think it’s normal they may not tell you.