If Brighton can protest peacefully so can the

I'm ducking out of this thread now because I've made my point multiple times.

On Wednesday night there were peaceful antiracism protests in many places all over the country including impoverished northern towns. The country as a whole is rising against hatred, not only wealthier middle class people.
This wonderful working class woman from Barnsley is a good example. x.com/JerryHicksUnite/status/1821614674284069191?t=xV3t6bbdqKEAR9MwJfvbvg&s=19

This. Brighton is considered one of the most unequal areas in the UK with high levels of child poverty

Imagine growing up in a place with easy access to London, beach, happy holiday people, middle-class artists, pastel painted houses.

There are lots of places like that nowhere near London. I suspect that you are a Londoner or someone who wishes they lived in London.

Not everyone wants "easy access to London" (ex Londoner who has no wish to live there again)

Again, nobody is saying Brighton doesn't have its problems. Generally, it's an affluent place and it's a good place to live. It's not the same as the small deprived towns in the North.

(I have no idea what you're getting at with your comment about gay couples so I am ignoring that one).

I saw this footage at the Brighton protest. I agree. I don't like seeing masked men shouting for whatever reason. They were shouting fascist scum. It makes me uneasy. More male aggression.

It also reminded me of the aggressive behaviour of the people shouting at feminists that I've seen. The antifa people seem really aggressive.

Not in any way defending the right wing people. It is indefensible what we've seen lately.

THIS.

A family member visited Rotherham to visit a friend several times and said it was noticeably impoverished and disadvantaged compared to down 'South'.

Brighton, Bristol, both affluent and ''luvvy'' - markedly different to poor Northern towns where the Industry has closed.

But peaceful anti racist protests took place all over the country, including in many deprived areas.

It's also full of antisocial behaviour, hard drugs, homelessness, individuals with severe mental health / alcohol/ substance abuse issues, violence & depravation. See also large estates & child poverty, some children there have never even seen the sea. Ex Brighton resident

Obviously people are using words for ill purposes too - Yaxley-Lennon, musk, Cheshire woman etc...the people rousing the rabble are more culpable than the people they con into rioting.
But again, not the point. Genuine protest doesn't require violence and property damage.

Same in Sheffield. There have been a couple of attempts at riots and both times the rioters were vastly outnumbered by peaceful protesters.

Sheffield has a lot of overseas students, so I wonder if this might have influenced the good people of Sheffield.

Which is that the counter protesters did so peacefully, they didn't need to throw or set fire to anything. Even in 'left behind' areas, people are capable of using words, not bricks - if there was a coherent protest the 'protesters' would have brought banners not beer.

Yep, as seen by the suspended labour councillor that was arrested, he used his words well.

Blackpool has leafy suburbs too...
I dare say Brighton is overall less deprived but I'm sure that, like many seaside towns, it's got more than half a dozen 'left behind' white men.

Other towns had a similar response of counter protesters outnumbering 'protesters' to Brighton so nitpicking its demographic details is a bit besides the point.

Which is that the counter protesters did so peacefully, they didn't need to throw or set fire to anything. Even in 'left behind' areas, people are capable of using words, not bricks - if there was a coherent protest the 'protesters' would have brought banners not beer.

Another one who doesn’t have a clue about Brighton! Yes, just like Blackpool reflected in the prices of private housing 🙄

You obviously don’t know Brighton as it isn’t really known for ‘leafy suburbs’ the residential area closer to town have pockets of wealth but it is really socially mixed.

So probably worth looking at who in Brighton has the wealth? I bet it is skewed. My guess, and yes I have no facts, is that gay male couples are probably over-represented ( compared to general population) in the wealthy categories.

That doesn't really surprise me. I don't see Brighton as a leafy suburb, more the Blackpool of the south.

Yes.

I've lived in Brighton for 17 years but am from the North East. My father was from an affluent family and my mother from a poor family, so I saw both sides.

Of course Brighton has areas of deprivation, like anywhere else. But it really isn't the same.

@Littlepinkstarsbyradish I think anyone who feels Brighton has the same kinds of problems as some of the places in the UK that are at the centre of these issues, needs to go and live in a small town in the North for a while and see how they feel.

I've done both and I can say there is no comparison, despite the fact that Brighton has some clear issues, it is not the same.

sorry! i replied before seeing the later posts who made this distinction. apologies for clogging up the thread with repetition

Just to put it out there, there are some very different areas of Brighton and it is certainly not ubiquitously wealthy and middle class.

I live in Brighton actually, and I work for a charity as well. I do "have a fucking clue" what it is like.

It's one of the wealthiest cities in the UK. It does have deprivation and a lot of issues with homelessness and social inclusion. That doesn't change the fact that overall, it's one of the best places to live in the country, and one of the most affluent.

I don't disagree with your OP, but just want to add that Brighton is a particularly lovely place to live compared to most of the shit, left behind cities in the North.

Imagine growing up in a place with easy access to London, beach, happy holiday people, middle-class artists, pastel painted houses.

Then imagine growing up in somewhere constantly ridiculed for being shit, full of 'gammon', 'no brain cells', no jobs, transport, nice buildings and nothing but late night chemists and bookies and all the amazing free cultural sites of London completely out of reach.

I'm not sure what we expected to happen with all the forgotten Northern cities to be honest. But building more NHS centres won't solve it and not will reminding them how dumb they are

Ah - a good dose of "others are not like me so they are wrong and evil " be it race, class, sex , it's all pretty naff

Peaceful anti racism supporters outnumbered the far right outside an Asylum Centre in Liverpool last night as well and there was no trouble even though hundreds gathered.