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Very well put.

The reason why Brighton can do this when so many other places cannot is that on the whole, Brighton is an affluent, pleasant place to be, people who live there are educated and privileged and have access to a variety of cultural and enriching experiences.

To put it bluntly, they don't experience a lot of the issue that a lot of other places do - both in terms of the right wing extremism AND mass immigration into communities, which inevitably changes the culture and feel of a place, and can make people feel threatened if people aren't given the support they need to integrate into communities.

To compare Brighton with areas of socioeconomic disadvantage/ deprivation, riddled with issues and segregation - you are not comparing like for like.

Of course Brighton can do this - people there are perfectly set up to be able to have the resilience and emotional resources to respond to things in a healthy way - but also, the issues they are responding to in Brighton are not as bad as they are elsewhere.

I think everyone already knows rioters aren't reflective of whatever cause they are claiming to support.

But Brighton is one of the richest, most affluent cities and most expensive places to live in the UK - it has a very different demographics and community issues to say, Rotherham.

If you live in Brighton and your experience of UK cultural diversity is wandering down 'The lanes' and buying some fantastic gelato or pho; you're having a very different experience to many others in the UK.

A drug problem, well yes, it is a City, it has a population of 276000 as opposed to Blackpool that is a town and has a population of 141000. There are many residents in Brighton & Hove that are Media jobs, Actors and quite famous musicians, the average price of a house in Brighton is £505000, they are just as likely to be owned by people who have children and work in these industries because of its proximity to London! It has a huge student population and the highest percentage of the population are 20-29, this demographic aren’t the ones owning the period properties! Brighton has had an influx of people from London particularly over the last 20 years that push up the prices and it has a huge problem with AirBNBs that are just investment properties that push up prices and have made some families move away as it is unaffordable. It is disingenuous to say that those problems are comparable to Blackpool because they are not.

It would appear that Brighton has a child poverty problem, just like other seaside towns; that children have been trafficked from the town, and that there is a drug problem.
I think the point that some of the more wealthy may be gay couples is likely to be the case - esp if they have no DC and both are working. Others likely to be better off are 2 income no DC heterosexual couples.
Why did you not comment on the post I commented on (that actually made what you call a 'sweeping generalisation') rather than my post btw? Just asking.😀

No that's not true you can't shout fire in a cinema free speech has responsibilities as I say you can't shout stuff not ecpect folks to have a ho back that's not how free speech works

No one should get violent but if you are going somewhere saying opinions then expect backlash that's how free speech works. I side with trans people I am a woman to but if I started saying how women shouldn't exist I would expect your lot to tell me to shut up etc that's how it works. What alot want is to spout some horrible stuff and have no challenge that's not how protests work

there is a 4th issue with this in that the town (and other towns where this was done) not the hotels rely on seasonal business, and this has been affected by putting in the immigrants and restricting the amount of holiday makers to the town.

I didn't see the 'demonstraters' in Blackpool. Thought it was just last week-end. One issue in Blackpool is that a very large hotel on the Promenade has been filled with asylum seekers (mainly young men). The town has three issues with this:

1. Only large hotels - corporate-owned - were offered asylum seekers. Struggling B&Bs got no look-in. Seen as unjust even if B&B owners did not want asylum seekers - could at least have been asked.
2. The town received an influx of homeless in the noughties from Manchester etc. This means many hotels are now HMOs, which detracts from the holiday nature of the town and also fills its streets with beggars. Many hoteliers feel yet more displaced people, especially young men who have culturally different ideas, esp to do with women, are probably not best placed in a town that is full of young women scantily dressed (from asylum seekers possible pov) and which also has a problem with the grooming of underage girls. Blackpool is also the northern equivalent of Brighton, as a gay capital, with Pride events, gay hoteliers, gay bars and gay cultural events (Funny Girls, for example) etc. Some may feel very threatened by young men who have a different cultural outlook on homosexuality.
3. There are international events taking place in Blackpool (fireworks, ballroom dancing, various festivals) which may be affected by the advent of unattached young men on top of all the HMO residents.

Bit of a tangent, but I noticed there were a lot more original rainbow flags at Brighton Pride this year (as opposed to the newer style flag). Also Mr Menno was there holding a sign about Puberty blockers being anti-gay. No one shouted in his face- that might be just because he’s male, but he also got quite a positive response from some of the Pride attendees. (So maybe the tide is turning, even in Brighton).

Very well put.

The reason why Brighton can do this when so many other places cannot is that on the whole, Brighton is an affluent, pleasant place to be, people who live there are educated and privileged and have access to a variety of cultural and enriching experiences.

To put it bluntly, they don't experience a lot of the issue that a lot of other places do - both in terms of the right wing extremism AND mass immigration into communities, which inevitably changes the culture and feel of a place, and can make people feel threatened if people aren't given the support they need to integrate into communities.

To compare Brighton with areas of socioeconomic disadvantage/ deprivation, riddled with issues and segregation - you are not comparing like for like.

Of course Brighton can do this - people there are perfectly set up to be able to have the resilience and emotional resources to respond to things in a healthy way - but also, the issues they are responding to in Brighton are not as bad as they are elsewhere.

Attack or was your voices just challenged as there are many women who disagree to I have seen many women want to say opposing stuff abd posie parker doesn't let them so let women speak or just women we want to hear from?

Again, showing no understanding of the demographics of the area, just sweeping generalisations!

Because free speech comes with responsibility aka you can't shout fire scare people in a cinema even though you can see that's free speech. The point is people don't want to be challenged sure go yo Brighton protest peacefully do that amongst loads of lgbt people who disagree with you who also have their free speech to challenge to say you feel intimidated is that words? If it's violence then that's a line not to cross but I see so many free speech flk who don't want yo be challenged

A pity about the attack on feminists trying to speak out for sex-segregated spaces - the Greens are not hot on that one being totally TWAW.

@Daltonbear1 I'm not sure what shouting fire in a cinema has to do with any of what I said, or what an alleged comment from KJK has to do with the women who are being abused and threatened for campaigning for the protection of single-sex spaces. I think you need to read up on what free speech actually means.

Brighton is different. It always has been. It's a liminal place, it was a getaway for the rich and royals from London and a getaway for holiday makers. Also has a left leaning Uni. It's always had a Liberal inclusive anything goes vibe, that's in its DNA. That's what makes it, IMO awesome, and unique and one of the reasons it's been Green (in parts) for years. Its not comparable to many other cities but it's worth holding onto as it's pretty special. But I don't agree with the spirit of saying if Brighton can do it, why can't everywhere else. It's a bit elitist.

TBH after last night with the against rascim protesters outnumbered them and all the ones who are being charged I think most won't bother. The one's in Blackpool last night on the roundabout looked pathetic.Don't know about anywhere else but it's wet and windy here and not very warm. So if it's like that anywhere else most should stay away.🥰

I tend to agree with you.

So probably worth looking at who in Brighton has the wealth? I bet it is skewed. My guess, and yes I have no facts, is that gay male couples are probably over-represented ( compared to general population) in the wealthy categories.

The people of Brighton have literally no idea of the issues faced by other areas of the uk due to migrants. They are very naive. The rioters are completely wrong in their actions, however there are normal people who have reservations regarding the arrival of large numbers of young men with different ideas of how people should live their lives. Especially regarding how young girls should be treated purely based on the fact they are out and not chaperoned by an adult male. To think these are not real concerns purely because the protests have been hijacked by trouble makers is to ignore the issues and give more traction to those who would use them to serve their own trouble making agenda.

Oh to add, imagine coming on a thread outlining a situation whereby people have protested against right wing thugs in good faith then slagging off the town as it's too "rich" therefore suggesting the residents have no idea about poverty and trying to invalidate their anti fascist message. What complete bullshit and this makes me really angry. The idea that Brighton is some posho utopia is ridiculous. I have to walk my daughter through streets of homeless and passed out druggies every day FFS. There may be some rich people but there are extremely poor people and the divide is wild. It's not an easy place to live if you're poor.