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autism07 · 08/08/2024 08:37

Married 14 year. No kids together. My DH has a 38 year old daughter who has 4 children.
She has always been jealous and never included me in anything. DH has done holidays with them and birthday parties etc.
I am not the OW. DH had been separated from her mum 20 year before i met him.
Getting older and starting to realise this can't go on. Feel bad for DH as children don't have sleepovers, come for tea etc but would if I wasn't here. She has never accepted any woman in DH's life.
AIBU to consider leaving DH so he can have a better relationship with his blood family.
It's really starting to make me feel unhappy.

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AssassinsEyebrow · 11/08/2024 17:23

Where has this idea of you leaving him so that he can have the relationship he wants with his daughter, come from?

It isn't you preventing the relationship, it's her.

RawBloomers · 11/08/2024 17:18

autism07 · 11/08/2024 17:02

No other reason at all apart from him allowing her to control his life for all these years. As someone said earlier what happens when he gets older? Can't visit? Babysit? Pay for holidays etc.

If you think that in the future when there are more constraints, he’s going to pick her over you and end up treating you in a way you won’t like, that’s a reasonable concern. But own it. You’ve framed things here as you leaving for his sake.

Your contention is that leaving means he can have a better relationship with his DD. But there’s nothing in his past that suggests his relationship with her will be any better if you leave. Because his history suggests he doesn’t choose to center her in his life the way she wants (and I don’t blame him, it doesn’t sound healthy).

Createausername1970 · 11/08/2024 17:12

When he gets older, they will be older and perfectly capable of deciding for themselves. They may decide to visit him in his own home - initially because they are curious about what deep dark secret has resulted in them never going there.

Once they realise there is no deep dark secret and it's just mum being weird again ( and I bet she is weird in other ways too), they will probably visit, both when invited and also off their own bat.

autism07 · 11/08/2024 17:02

RawBloomers · 09/08/2024 07:35

It’s pretty wild to reason that you should leave him because (in your opinion) he craves a relationship with his DD that he can’t have while you’re around.

He’s clearly choosing you over this relationship with his DD that you think he craves. And from what you’ve said so far, he’s chosen other women over it too, so would probably find someone else if you leave him. It seems clear he craves a steady romantic relationship over a closer relationship with his (controlling) DD.

Why would you want to override his autonomy in this? Are there other reasons you want to leave him? Is this a palatable excuse so you don’t have to confront other issues?

No other reason at all apart from him allowing her to control his life for all these years. As someone said earlier what happens when he gets older? Can't visit? Babysit? Pay for holidays etc.

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autism07 · 11/08/2024 17:00

Pipsquiggle · 09/08/2024 07:12

Does your DH have any other DC?
Could they talk to her?
Could you talk to her?
Could anyone talk to her? Her mum? Her husband/ partner? Therapy?

It just seems so sad. Unless there is a huge backstory, it seems that all of this is her 'problem' and something you have no control over.
Do you think she has the capacity to change? Sounds like she has behaved consistently with various women for a long period of time, so actually it's not about 'you' but about 'her'.
Do you live close to her?

Talk to your DH about it and listen to what he would like to do. I think leaving him over this is extreme as ultimately the problem stays the same. Is his DD only happy with him when he's single?

All the family have tried to talk to her. It's due to her that the grandchildren are missing out but she can't seem to see this. We live close to them and he visits them every week.
He said he has told her that next year I will be invited on the holiday!!! It's too late I don't want to go now. Should have said this 7 year ago not just now!!
I am at the point that I don't suddenly want to be involved, it has gone too far for me. I tried to talk to her 3 year ago 🙄. I just think that now I know in my heart I don't want this issue sorted I should leave and let them get on with their pathetic ways.

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RawBloomers · 09/08/2024 07:35

It’s pretty wild to reason that you should leave him because (in your opinion) he craves a relationship with his DD that he can’t have while you’re around.

He’s clearly choosing you over this relationship with his DD that you think he craves. And from what you’ve said so far, he’s chosen other women over it too, so would probably find someone else if you leave him. It seems clear he craves a steady romantic relationship over a closer relationship with his (controlling) DD.

Why would you want to override his autonomy in this? Are there other reasons you want to leave him? Is this a palatable excuse so you don’t have to confront other issues?

Pipsquiggle · 09/08/2024 07:12

Does your DH have any other DC?
Could they talk to her?
Could you talk to her?
Could anyone talk to her? Her mum? Her husband/ partner? Therapy?

It just seems so sad. Unless there is a huge backstory, it seems that all of this is her 'problem' and something you have no control over.
Do you think she has the capacity to change? Sounds like she has behaved consistently with various women for a long period of time, so actually it's not about 'you' but about 'her'.
Do you live close to her?

Talk to your DH about it and listen to what he would like to do. I think leaving him over this is extreme as ultimately the problem stays the same. Is his DD only happy with him when he's single?

AprilShowerslastforHours · 09/08/2024 07:06

He knows exactly how I feel and says he won't be made to choose.

But he has chosen. You. He sees his family as much as he’s allowed as he has chosen to be with you.

Don’t feel guilty, but don’t leave. Unless you feel he is blaming you, which would be unfair of him. But otherwise enjoy your life together and let her revel in her bitterness.

Tel12 · 09/08/2024 07:02

But the children are growing up and in a few years won't want to spend so much time with granddad. It's almost like the DD is the OW.

Pinkypinkyplonk · 09/08/2024 06:59

Does he love and want to be with you?

Pinkypinkyplonk · 09/08/2024 06:59

Do you love and want to be with your husband?

autism07 · 09/08/2024 06:57

PurpleReindeer2 · 09/08/2024 06:50

If you end your marriage, could you afford to keep your home? The house would be included in the divorce settlement.

Yes. Even though married we had things put in place incase of divorce.

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autism07 · 09/08/2024 06:55

andfinallyhereweare · 09/08/2024 02:34

Could you go away for a night (somewhere fabulous on your husbands bill) every few months so he can have grandkids over. He gets the relationship, you get a fab break and keep your relationship?

No. The house is our home. She won't allow this unless it was just his.
I am not bothered about her at all, I just feel for DH not having the relationship with his grandchildren that he deserves.
My only fault in stopping this is existing. Yet her mum has had a lot of different partners and this isn't a problem to her.

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PurpleReindeer2 · 09/08/2024 06:50

If you end your marriage, could you afford to keep your home? The house would be included in the divorce settlement.

Sweetteaplease · 09/08/2024 05:44

Unless there's some huge backstop, she sounds incredibly selfish for a grown woman. Why is she allowed to be happy but her dad is not? I think you need to speak to your DH. And someone needs to speak to her. Don't break up if this is the only reason, although I admire your love for him wanting him to be happy

Purplecrush · 09/08/2024 03:04

OP, if you are not happy then there is nothing to keep you together.
Start by asking him to move out of your house and take a break.
Hopefully that will clarify how you feel.
She is toxic.
You are correct to stay away from her.
Thankfully she doesn't come near your home.

andfinallyhereweare · 09/08/2024 02:34

Could you go away for a night (somewhere fabulous on your husbands bill) every few months so he can have grandkids over. He gets the relationship, you get a fab break and keep your relationship?

tolerable · 09/08/2024 02:09

walk away end your unhappiness?might as well then

PaminaMozart · 09/08/2024 01:43

I agree with @timetodecide2345 , especially this:

I think it leaves you with a sense that you're not important and somehow making a fuss about nothing. If he doesn't respect your feelings in this then I don't see that you have a choice.

It is clear that he is NEVER going to do anything about this intolerable situation. This will be your life, and I fear that, as he gets older, he might start blaming you.

Happyinarcon · 09/08/2024 01:35

Just get him to go down and see the grandkids by himself every so often. Get him to stay in an Airbnb close to her house. You don’t need to get involved or overthink this, pick your battles. Frankly i would love a few quiet weekends.

timetodecide2345 · 09/08/2024 01:16

He's acted cowardly. Avoided confrontation at the expense of you.

I know where you are coming from. My DH has done this with his sister. She will blatantly ignore me and communicate only with him and our children. It all could have been avoided if he had spoken with her at the time but he didn't. I now don't respect him and want to leave.

I think it leaves you with a sense that you're not important and somehow making a fuss about nothing. If he doesn't respect your feelings in this then I don't see that you have a choice.

Kitkatcatflap · 09/08/2024 01:07

I think it's his problem and he should have sorted it out years ago, especially as she has ruined previous relationships. The children will get older and will be able to develop a relationship with him independently of their mother

If you are happy, stay and have a clear conscience. If you are not happy, are you looking for an excuse to leave.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 08/08/2024 23:33

Also if you left him for that reason he'd find a new gf and then have the same problem

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 08/08/2024 23:33

If you love him and you're good together why would you end the whole relationship just to enable them to have sleepovers a few nights a year. If you want you could always book yourself on a yoga retreat and they visit then. But that is still doing too much- it's on your dh to find a solution not you.

MoveToParis · 08/08/2024 22:00

Imagine being 38 and trying to stick yourself in the middle of someone else’s marriage to ruin it, and then it being your parent’s marriage. There is something wrong with her, and I would be letting her know that as my parting shot!