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To be shocked it’s been this easy to loose weight!

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EatStopEat · 08/08/2024 00:57

On alternate day fasting - not 16:8 but fasting for 36 hours then eating anything you want for 12 hours. E.g stopping eating at 10pm on Sunday and not eating until 10am on Tuesday. Eat all you want until 10pm and the cycle continues. No calorie counting but essentially cutting calorie intake in half.

Thought about trying it for ages but never in the right headspace. Watched a Michael Mosley doc on Netflix out of respect for the great man and saw him talking about it again (welled up a bit when he was talking about wanting to live longer I must say) then just decided, F IT. I’m doing it.

Age 53. Starting at 18 stone 4. Aching knees and back, swollen ankles, couldn’t go upstairs without needing 5 mins to get my breath back, DC complaining that I’m heavy breathing over them 😳, high cholesterol, high risk for T2 diabetes, high blood pressure also hypothyroidism and deep in menopause,

In just over 4 weeks, I have lost 20lbs. Now 16stone 12. I absolutely love my food on feed days. I thought I would overeat but I don’t. In fact I haven’t got time to eat everything I planned (oohhh, I’ll have you tomorrow kind of thing 😃).

I work out in the gym on feed days so I go every other day instead of pressuring myself to exercise everyday and then not do any at all! I eat chocolate bars, big meals etc. I have started making overnight oats ready the night before feed days which I am loving and really fill me up. Drink tonnes of water etc. I have cut out normal bread and have gluten free instead just because it made me extremely bloated after fasting (wouldn’t have otherwise), gluten free pancakes with syrup too. More natural gravitation to healthy food now.

On fast days, I drink loads (as well as electrolyte water), have coffee with sugar, herbal tea with honey and two milk shakes with protein powder and ground flax seeds for extra nutrition. I will probably switch to fruit and veg smoothies when I get fed up with them but not yet!

I was worried I would be dizzy or have headaches but nothing! First few fast days were hard but now it’s so easy. I look forward to eating the next day and even fasting afterwards when I feel stuffed (!) and think about what I want to eat. I’m not starving when I wake up after fasting either and feel very cleaned out so to speak.

I have a busy household (2 adults - 4 older DC), I WFH, and it works fine. Don’t mind cooking for family as know I can have it tomorrow. Honestly I never thought I’d ever find a diet I’d keep up for more than 2 weeks which was my limit. I can’t keep up with calorie counting or denying myself nice food for months on end, so depressing.

I can see the benefits already to my skin, so much less tired, mental fog lifting, no swollen ankles!, dress size gone from tight 20 to comfy 18. I can almost run upstairs and the difference to how hard I can work out in the gym is amazing in just a month which is due to the fasting IMO. In addition there are internal benefits from fasting which will be adding up. I feel 100 times better than a month ago. I know the weight loss will start to slow down but I expect to reach a reasonably healthy weight before Christmas and can then do occasional fast days if my weight starts creeping up again.

Honestly, I really want to advocate this way of losing weight. It’s not a fad, we are designed for feast and famine. No extra costs, actually save money on fasting days as two shakes cost the equivalent of £2 and I’d easily spend more than that eating 3 meals a day especially if I was getting a cheeky Costa, McDonalds, or Subway for lunch although I can and have had that on feed days!

AIBU to think this is amazing and think more people should try it before resorting to spending hundred of pounds on weight loss injections which can have damaging side effects and are affecting Tyoe 1 diabetics getting life saving medication and equipment for that medication?

Obviously fasting is not for pregnant women or people with contraindicated medical conditions but most people could do it if I can!

OP posts:
manova366 · 08/08/2024 06:44

I'm with you OP. I've lost about 10kg in the past couple of years, and I don't even properly fast. I've just found it a sustainable way to reduce the total calories I eat. Diets always felt like deprivation so I know what you mean - I never feel deprived - if I do get hungry when I'm in a 'no eating' stretch, I remember I can eat whatever delicious thing I want at dinner.
It is a very simple way to reduce calories while never having to think about calories or make exhausting small decisions or feel a sense of failure about a 'wrong' decision. Even having the occasional 'cheat' day where i eat three big meals doesn't make any difference.
I never eat breakfast anymore (but I do drink coffee with milk, so technically breaking the fast). I skip lunch a few days a week, and when I do have lunch I have a protein bar or small sandwich. Then for dinner I eat whatever I like, and generally don't eat anything past 9pm.
It works for me because my job is extremely sedentary - I am never actually hungry for lunch.
Weight loss has been a benefit, and dropping the weight has drastically reduced menopause symptoms; but it has also made me more conscientious about balancing my dinner meal - making sure it has sufficient carb, protein, greens, veges, etc.

It's not going to work for everyone, like I would never have done this when my kids were little and I was more active, but it is absolutely the key for me in middle age.

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 08/08/2024 06:43

@DistanceCall
”Nonsense. Maintenance Phase is a pro-Fat Acceptance podcast that spouts misonformation about your “set point” and so on. Bodies are not “programmed” to recover lost weight. If you go back to overeating, you will get fat again. It’s not genetics, it’s caloric intake,”

I don’t agree with you, ‘set point’ is a very well researched topic and one which my elder son who is a GP agrees with. Maybe you would find reading around the subject enlightening.

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 08/08/2024 06:38

XlemonX · 08/08/2024 02:45

Well done OP

further down the line you should try to clean fast and only have water on fasting hours to achieve the full effect of autophagy and detoxing.

I am a true believer of OMAD (one meal a day) it works better longterm and I throw in longer fast a few times. That works wonders. My fat just melts off and I become full of energy, skin becomes flawless.

@XlemonX ,
Do you not allow black tea or coffee or a squeeze of lemon in your water. How about gassy water would you have that?

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 08/08/2024 06:31

@EatStopEat , I was going to ask about this:-
“On fast days, I drink loads (as well as electrolyte water), have coffee with sugar, herbal tea with honey and two milk shakes with protein powder and ground flax seeds for extra nutrition. I will probably switch to fruit and veg smoothies when I get fed up with them but not yet! ”
but I see you are doing a version of 5:2 namely 4:3. I have had my best weight loss doing various fasting methods from 5:2/4:3 through to absolute fasting 3 x 42 hrs per week.
I recommend you look up Jason Fung and read The Obesity Code there are many advocates of fasting. You may become interested in autophagy which is one of the great benefits of absolute fasting. If you are only interested in losing weight then I’m very glad for you that you’ve found a method that works for you.
Alas despite losing a huge amount of weight, I put it all and more on again and as a post menopausal woman I had convinced myself that my hormones were against me. Your post has inspired me to try again, I may try your exact regimen although when I did 4:3 I only allowed myself 400 calories a day.
Please learn from me and when you are content with your weight keep one 36 hr fast a week, it’s scary how easily weight piles on again.
Thank you for your post and good luck!
P.S
Is there a fasting discussion on Mumsnet?

FeelingUnsure99 · 08/08/2024 06:28

It's great that you've lost weight op but I think a lot of people would disagree that regularly fasting for 36 hours is easy.

theworldsmad · 08/08/2024 06:26

Op I love fasting. Something really clicked for me when I discovered fasting.
My mum used to always say 'kitchen closes at 6mp' when we were growing up. She used to say you're body is not doing anything with that food after that sice you are sleeping And my mum was always skinny and still is. And now I realise that she was basically IF (although she doesn't call it that) and not eating for at least 14 to 16 hours every day
Anyway when I grew up and had my own household I struggled to not eat later. I would pop grapes into my mouth while cleaning up after the kids.
DH and I would sneak some chocolate as a dessert later before we went to bed.
But the moment I was fasting it was like some will power kicked in and I wouldn't eat because I didn't want to break my fast.

And like you say, because you know you can eat tomorrow I'm never feeling like I'm depriving myself, but I'm more conscious of what I break my fast with. I don't want to not eat for 36 hours I don't want to break my fast with chocolate that will just cause my blood sugar to spike.

I'm currently breastfeeding, and have read somewhere you're not supposed to fast longer than 18 hours. Don't know how true it is. MN? Can't wait to get back to 36 hour fasts!

27Bumblebees · 08/08/2024 06:24

DistanceCall · 08/08/2024 04:59

Nonsense. Maintenance Phase is a pro-Fat Acceptance podcast that spouts misonformation about your “set point” and so on. Bodies are not “programmed” to recover lost weight. If you go back to overeating, you will get fat again. It’s not genetics, it’s caloric intake,

Did you read my source? That's not maintenance phase, it's from academia.

Do you have a source from recent research?

LaLaLoca · 08/08/2024 06:10

The short reply is no, I’m not shocked as you’re massively reducing your calorie intake. Good luck with the maintenance- I'm sure you’ll continue to improve your health and feel great.

connie26 · 08/08/2024 06:01

Thanks for sharing op and well done! This sounds great. I like the idea of still having protein shakes as I don't think I could last that long without something. Do you make your own shakes?

CatLady476 · 08/08/2024 05:57

Just popping on to say that I have found Slimpod really helpful in keeping weight off in the long term (kind of like hypnosis tapes). I would not have believed how effective it's been with zero effort - I automatically eat less and genuinely want really healthy stuff. Never thought it could be so easy. 11 lbs off in a month and I'm not even trying - my body has naturally fallen into a 16:8 rhythm.

JudyBlumesBlubber · 08/08/2024 05:50

Well done OP!
I have never done fasting but lost a lot while calorie counting. It was a challenge to do all that logging and the “re-entry” to post diet maintenance was hard. I might try fasting.
What would you all recommend as a starting plan?

NinetyNineRedBalloonsGoBy · 08/08/2024 05:17

Well done OP!Flowers you're inspirational!

Ignore the posters who are criticising and nit picking- there's a few on MN who don't really like to read about genuine successes for overweight people Confused and become competitive about surviving only on a massive salad once a week... you have found a way that is sustainable for you and that is what is important and will genuinely work in the long term 👏

Butchyrestingface · 08/08/2024 05:03

23Shadows · 08/08/2024 01:55

I'm glad to hear this is working for you and I might try something similar but I'll just point out that you're not really fasting at all if you're having sugar, honey, milkshakes etc. It's more like an intermittent VLCD.

That’s what I thought. When I do a 36 hour fast, I FAST. The only thing that passes my lips is water - and lots of it, otherwise I’d get a crashing headache.

OP seems to be doing well though so her method is obviously working for her.

DistanceCall · 08/08/2024 04:59

27Bumblebees · 08/08/2024 01:54

Well done on making some positive changes to your health OP.

I would be mindful though of recent research that shows that long term effects of dieting actually lead to more weight gain due to the physiological processes that restrictive eating can trigger. Slower, gradual changes are much more likely to be maintained over time, and have fewer negative impacts on things like hormones and metabolism. The podcast "maintenance phase" has some great episodes on this, including the 5:2 diet and those like it.

Also the weight loss research centre at Sydney university has written quite a bit on the long term effects of dieting.

www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/05/its-time-to-bust-the-calories-in-calories-out-weight-loss-myth.html

This really isn't to rain on your parade, I hope your manage to continue your journey to a healthier weight (whatever you deem that to be). I guess it's just to say to take care that once you come off your diet, if you've lost a lot in a short period, you might put it all back on plus some - it's what your body is programmed to do. Go well.

Nonsense. Maintenance Phase is a pro-Fat Acceptance podcast that spouts misonformation about your “set point” and so on. Bodies are not “programmed” to recover lost weight. If you go back to overeating, you will get fat again. It’s not genetics, it’s caloric intake,

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 08/08/2024 04:50

EatStopEat · 08/08/2024 02:25

Oh I know but I’m following MM’s fasting regime which allows up to 600 Cals on ‘fasting’ days. I don’t want to get bogged down in carb counting so shakes are easier as don’t have to think about it and still getting some nutrition on fast days. The one I’m using has got iodine in it which I probably never had much of before and omegas in the flax seeds.

I’m not cutting sugar out of coffee and honey out of tea as it would just be miserable and not doable. I’m probably only having a fraction of the sugar (including in carbs) I’d have if I was eating food all day so practically reduced by a half to a third over the course of a week. Not going to stress about that!

I'm sure that's fine for calorie reduction and weight loss but it would be good to work some 16+ hour periods of actual fasting into your regime to enjoy all the unseen metabolic benefits.

creamofroses · 08/08/2024 04:41

Honestly, I really want to advocate this way of losing weight. It’s not a fad, we are designed for feast and famine.

IF etc is not recommended for anyone with a history of eating disorders, so it's not a cure-all for everyone. But well done on turning your life around like this!

livelovelough24 · 08/08/2024 04:27

I started doing OMAD some time ago and have been loosing steadily around 2 lb per week.

Stopsnowing · 08/08/2024 03:39

XlemonX · 08/08/2024 02:45

Well done OP

further down the line you should try to clean fast and only have water on fasting hours to achieve the full effect of autophagy and detoxing.

I am a true believer of OMAD (one meal a day) it works better longterm and I throw in longer fast a few times. That works wonders. My fat just melts off and I become full of energy, skin becomes flawless.

What time do you eat your one meal a day and is it massive and do you snack in between??

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 08/08/2024 02:58

The approach sounds intriguing, I do 16:8 but will look further into what you're suggesting.

I wonder though, if you're squeezing bread, pancakes, oats, chocolate bars and protein shakes into your 12 hour window, how on earth are you managing to eat all the fruit/veg/good fats you need for good health? I see you're eating some, but are you eating 5 a day/30 a week?

XlemonX · 08/08/2024 02:45

Well done OP

further down the line you should try to clean fast and only have water on fasting hours to achieve the full effect of autophagy and detoxing.

I am a true believer of OMAD (one meal a day) it works better longterm and I throw in longer fast a few times. That works wonders. My fat just melts off and I become full of energy, skin becomes flawless.

AInightingale · 08/08/2024 02:42

Well done OP. I find the fewer carbs/sugar you take in, the less you want. Have seen people refer to it as 'waking the carb monster' - eat healthily all day, then have one small biscuit and then get hit by nearly irresistible cravings. You must have tremendous willpower if you can resist the urge to eat in the evenings!

EatStopEat · 08/08/2024 02:25

23Shadows · 08/08/2024 01:55

I'm glad to hear this is working for you and I might try something similar but I'll just point out that you're not really fasting at all if you're having sugar, honey, milkshakes etc. It's more like an intermittent VLCD.

Oh I know but I’m following MM’s fasting regime which allows up to 600 Cals on ‘fasting’ days. I don’t want to get bogged down in carb counting so shakes are easier as don’t have to think about it and still getting some nutrition on fast days. The one I’m using has got iodine in it which I probably never had much of before and omegas in the flax seeds.

I’m not cutting sugar out of coffee and honey out of tea as it would just be miserable and not doable. I’m probably only having a fraction of the sugar (including in carbs) I’d have if I was eating food all day so practically reduced by a half to a third over the course of a week. Not going to stress about that!

OP posts:
EatStopEat · 08/08/2024 02:11

Oh yes, I know it will slow down. I’m finding I eat less now on feed days but being more mindful of nutrition which is a good thing anyway. I am a veggie than lived on bread products, very high carb diet, rest of the family are meat eaters so I’d make meat dishes for them add in some shop bought veggie thing and fill up on toast or crumpets before bed!

I found bread products bloated me so badly after a fast that I just couldn’t eat it anymore, Now I’m making more effort to add beans, eggs, seeds and fruit and veg so it’s a massive change. Protein yoghurt with seeds, nuts, fruit and honey for snacks, oats for breakfast, veggie omelette for lunch with salad and hummus etc, because having a break from food is making me think about what I want to eat and what will taste nice so I look forward to it.

It’s amazing I’m not thinking about doughnuts or cake anymore. If I told myself I couldn’t have it, I probably would be but I know I can so it doesn’t matter iyswim! It’s that mindset.

Anyway thanks for the replies. One of the things I’ve noticed that I also need less sleep although it’s deeper. Off to bed now!

OP posts:
crazybeelady · 08/08/2024 01:56

I’m doing one of Mosleys eating plans but only 2 fast days a week where I eat 900 or 1000 calories. The other days I eat around 1500 a day.

I was never really overweight at 73kg but slowly gaining weight through peri menopause. I exercise everyday including running 35km a week and thought I was eating well but couldn’t loose any weight.
I’ve been on it 6 weeks and have lost 5kg and feel amazing. One unexpected side affect is it has massively improved my running pace And a lot of my fatigue from my hormone issued have gone.
loving life and will definitely stay on this style of eating

23Shadows · 08/08/2024 01:55

I'm glad to hear this is working for you and I might try something similar but I'll just point out that you're not really fasting at all if you're having sugar, honey, milkshakes etc. It's more like an intermittent VLCD.