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To think is over generous gift of money for a wedding present?

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PrueHal · 07/08/2024 23:14

I've noticed since day one my partner is very generous with money. From early on he bought me expensive jewellery to my embarrassment, bought gifts for friends and family and used the phrase 'it's just money'. He earns 15k more than me and doing well though not loaded.

He's at a family wedding by himself (I have very good reasons for being unable to go) and as he didn't have time to pick from their gift list he tells me is giving them money - £1000!

AIBU to find this insane? And to think the bride and groom really won't expect it? I find myself thinking about the future and how I'd really not ever want to spend that on a wedding gift if we were, say, married. He is so generous but it's too much sometimes.

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Flossyts · 08/08/2024 07:19

Justtryingtofitin · 07/08/2024 23:21

Ok sorry but that’s a bit cheap. We got married recently and got at least £200 per couple. We usually give £250 and £500 if it’s family

In your opinion it’s cheap. At our wedding (albeit 13 years ago). Most couples gave between 20 and 50. We live in northern uk for reference.
I would have for someone to have not come to our wedding for fear of being ‘cheap’. In our area £50 is fairly normal.

CurlewKate · 08/08/2024 06:55

@theleafandnotthetree "I would consider anything less than 100 per person kinda cheap, only because the meal alone in most hotels is 80 euro at least"

So you're paying for your dinner? 😮

Cornflakes44 · 08/08/2024 06:22

I thought £50 a couple was about standard. When we got married that was about what people gave. It was a reasonably fancy wedding. I don't really see it as them paying back for their meal, it's my wedding I'm paying for it. I see it more on the same level as a birthday gift. If someone had given us £1000, especially a cousin-level person I would have rang them straight away thinking there was a mistake. I would also have felt extremely uncomfortable about it.

Sweetteaplease · 08/08/2024 06:04

Seems alot for a cousin, unless they are very close

CocoDolphin · 08/08/2024 05:58

Blimey, I think around £100 per couple is fine and perfectly generous. I did an online calculator thing recently that was based on a survey and it suggested that £100 per couple is well within the norm. I’ll try and find it to post it. A lot depends on how much to give including a balance of your own finances and what you can afford combined with your relationship with the couple. I have loads of cousins but am not close to them so I wouldn’t expect to treat them or have them treat me with an embarrassing degree of generosity. They are regular people and I’d feel really uncomfortable receiving such an insane amount even if they were multi millionaires because then it would seem a bit flashy and crass.

When dh and I got married twenty years ago we had an online gift list where the most generous gifts in it were worth £100 - equivalent to about £150 now. Most people spent today’s equivalent to £50. Even so, gifts weren’t expected and we certainly didn’t expect our wedding costs to be covered!

When did people get so grabby?

Isitovernow123 · 08/08/2024 05:54

TeenLifeMum · 07/08/2024 23:33

And I’d consider anyone hosting a wedding expecting that much to be grabby. I hate the “pay for your plate” culture. No, you host a wedding/party, the guests don’t have to refund you on top of all the other expenses they’ll incur coming to your big day!

recent cousin’s wedding for me, dh and 3dc
outfits £550 at least
petrol £200
hotel £600 (2 rooms incl breakfast)
gift £100

probably other hidden costs but their wedding cost us £1450 for our family and you think that’s cheap?! I didn’t even attend the hen do as I couldn’t get out of work.

Thankfully cousin isn’t grabby.

I bet this was probably one of the better weddings you’ve attended as well! We spent the equivalent 26 years ago, provided buffet food from the local supermarket, and apart from a glass of bubbly for the toasts (£5 corkage per bottle), everyone bought their own drinks.Even today, friends and family said it was the one wedding they really enjoyed because it was relaxed and not pretentious.

As for wedding gifts, you give what you can.

Thebaguette · 08/08/2024 05:35

AcrossthePond55 · 08/08/2024 00:41

@PrueHal

It's estimated that financial problems contribute to 20-40% of all divorces. That means that for every 10 marriages that end in divorce, four of them are because of money. Some sources say it's the leading single cause. Sobering thought.

Depend upon it, marriage isn't going to change your DP's feelings about spending. Whether or not he'd expect you to be 'extravagant' isn't the real issue, the real issue is that he will continue to be so. Because he doesn't feel he's 'extravagant', he feels that he's spending his hard earned money as he sees fit. Do you really think you'll convince him that he doesn't 'deserve' to spend what he wants? Because I don't.

And many people who feel they're entitled to spend their hard earned money as they please also feel that the number one reason to spend that money is 'themselves'. And so their families come second to their 'needs' and their hobbies. New golf clubs, of course, and the very best there is! Large cash gift to impress his extended family? Of course!! Little Junior needs new shoes? No, his old ones look like they will still do. Oh, they have a hole? Well, take him to Primark, he doesn't need Clarks he'll grow out of them too soon.

You need to think very carefully and have more than one frank discussion before you even contemplate marrying this man.

That's not true. Some people are generous. No way, someone like Op's bf would be buying his own child shoes from primark.

junebirthdaygirl · 08/08/2024 04:38

Does he have ADHD?. My ds has a diagnosis and he only thinks of the moment. He would happily give someone 1000 but would then be shocked if l didn't want to give him 200 as he is now broke. He is so generous but it's madness as he can't hold money. He is literally have it/ spend it. He has very little capacity to save. He would give me his last penny but struggles with the fact l won't give him my last penny. Its a huge issue and possibly the most negative aspect of his diagnosis. There are lots of positives.

lunitunes · 08/08/2024 04:30

Again I think it depends on closeness to the cousin and cultural traditions. When we got married, some family gave us that amount as a way to 'help' because we never asked for support or contributions. It was unexpected but also amazing. And then some guests gave £50 or even nothing which was also fine as they would've spent money to attend and given us a day. It just depends..

LBFseBrom · 08/08/2024 04:19

PrueHal · 07/08/2024 23:22

I feel like £500 would still be incredibly generous but at least a bit more reasonable

I too think £500 would be more appropriate.

Quitelikeit · 08/08/2024 03:57

My question is - how much does he earn and can he afford this?

To gift that much he must be earning around 150k a year? Even then 1k gift will make a dent?

is he debt ridden? Does he have a inheritance

Bigcat25 · 08/08/2024 03:34

DaisyFloop · 07/08/2024 23:35

I don't think it's relevant. If you marry him and share finances it's different and you'll discuss what to give etc

But you should discuss these issues before the wedding to see if you're on the same page. Money is apparently the number one reason to divorce. It's good to have joint goals for the future.

ridl14 · 08/08/2024 03:24

Could it be cultural? We had family members gift us this amount for our wedding as in close aunties. English/UK only heritage I think standard is £50-100 per couple though, in that case YANBU. And in any case something you'd want to discuss (general finances) before getting married

Outofitagain · 08/08/2024 02:14

I think it's too much to gift a cousin and at risk of embarrassing them. Different maybe if he were absolutely loaded and that amount was a drop in the ocean for him, but it sounds like he isn't. Also different if it were a closer relationship, eg sibling or niece/nephew/godchild, but again only if he could afford it.

It does depend on cultural norms also. Not sure how they do things in Nordic countries or in America. I'm in Ireland and the 'going-rate' seems a bit higher than UK judging from threads on this topic. Personally I'd give 200 euro to a cousin as a single person (£170 approx).

redkiteonatree · 08/08/2024 00:51

theleafandnotthetree · 07/08/2024 23:27

I would consider anything less than 100 per person kinda cheap, only because the meal alone in most hotels is 80 euro at least.

so what? as a wedding guest, it isn't my job to fund the party and cover my expenses. People usually spend money on clothes, travel ans accommodation on top.

MrsClatterbuck · 08/08/2024 00:45

Things have changed so much since we got married nearly 40 years ago. Then we didn't even have a list. We got some large presents like a nilfisk hoover le creuse casserole doulton ladies and China tea sets to an electric whisk and an electric knife. Money presents were rare. Biggest was a £50 gift voucher couple of £20 gifts. All these gifts were displayed in the house and when someone came with theirs you would display it and show them all the gifts received so far and go through the gifts explaining who had got what. Also providing tea and traybakes. It was a bit mad when you think about it now.
How times have changed. This was in NI
We did get 2 kettles 2 irons and 2 ironing boards oh and 2 toasters.

AcrossthePond55 · 08/08/2024 00:41

@PrueHal

It's estimated that financial problems contribute to 20-40% of all divorces. That means that for every 10 marriages that end in divorce, four of them are because of money. Some sources say it's the leading single cause. Sobering thought.

Depend upon it, marriage isn't going to change your DP's feelings about spending. Whether or not he'd expect you to be 'extravagant' isn't the real issue, the real issue is that he will continue to be so. Because he doesn't feel he's 'extravagant', he feels that he's spending his hard earned money as he sees fit. Do you really think you'll convince him that he doesn't 'deserve' to spend what he wants? Because I don't.

And many people who feel they're entitled to spend their hard earned money as they please also feel that the number one reason to spend that money is 'themselves'. And so their families come second to their 'needs' and their hobbies. New golf clubs, of course, and the very best there is! Large cash gift to impress his extended family? Of course!! Little Junior needs new shoes? No, his old ones look like they will still do. Oh, they have a hole? Well, take him to Primark, he doesn't need Clarks he'll grow out of them too soon.

You need to think very carefully and have more than one frank discussion before you even contemplate marrying this man.

BeanCountingContinues · 08/08/2024 00:24

You have to talk to him.
Does he want to save up for a mortgage? A pension?
What are his financial goals? Do they align with yours?

Marriages generally fail over money or sex. Being on the same page regards money is so, so important.

Cherry8809 · 08/08/2024 00:20

I gifted my youngest sister £1k at her wedding; money was tight for them, and I wanted them to be able to treat themselves to something nice or just alleviate some pressure.

As another poster said, it’s all relative to the relationship they have. It’s clear that gift giving is his love language, and I think until you share your finances, you can only really make suggestions on whether you believe the gesture is “appropriate” or not…but also appreciate that it’s his money to spend as he wishes.

Marine30 · 08/08/2024 00:13

RicherThanYews · 07/08/2024 23:47

This thread has blown my mind. My uncle and his partner put a £5 in an envelope at our wedding, it seemed normal at the time but now I'm wondering where the fuck the other £995 went.

😂😂

TheDuck2018 · 08/08/2024 00:10

LetsPlayShadowlands · 08/08/2024 00:02

'OK sorry but...'

You're not sorry, you're a materialistic judgy snob that looks down on people based on money. Hth.

My thoughts exactly! Think the username is very apt ....

L0bstersLass · 08/08/2024 00:10

PrueHal · 07/08/2024 23:22

I feel like £500 would still be incredibly generous but at least a bit more reasonable

It depends how close he is to his cousin.
We gave my brother in law £500 when he got married and that was 20 years ago.

dbeuowlxb173939 · 08/08/2024 00:07

Wow yes that's a lot! For my cousin a couple of years ago we gave £50!

NewName24 · 08/08/2024 00:07

PP is right that it isn't really any of my business what he spends on his family. But this is a serious partner I am considering marrying. I don't really want to live an extravagant lifestyle. How would he have reacted it this was a joint gift and I didn't want to give that much?

I think it's very relevant to think about.

I think it is not only very relevant to think about, but it is very important to talk about.

You are young, and you are at a stage where you are thinking about settling down together, so presumably talking about buying property together. You need to know that saving for joint goals is something you are on the same page about.

It's none of your business if you had just met, but it very much is your business if you are going to be spending the rest of your lives together.

The fact you mention he earns £15K more than you, doesn't suggest to me he is on £150K or something, when 'disposable income' would be different than it is for most people your age.

Sinderalla · 08/08/2024 00:05

we do £100 but it's been that long from I've been at a wedding it's prob a £150 now.

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