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To not want to buy property for fear of WW3?

212 replies

Vizella · 07/08/2024 22:06

Hi all,

I’m finally getting to a stage where I’ve saved enough for a house deposit, earn well in a remote finance job and am willing to leave London to go to South Yorkshire and buy a house.

Then a niggling thought in my mind says, if your house is destroyed in WW3, all your savings will go down the drain and you will be left destitute.

I appreciate that it’s a crazy thought to have but Iran and Israel are at each other’s throats and Russia has no intention of backing out of Ukraine. When people had their cities bombed in the past, how did they survive?

Tell me if I’m being unreasonable? If so, why?

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BloodyHellKenAgain · 07/08/2024 23:15

TheYearOfSmallThings · 07/08/2024 22:15

I think the question is, what will happen if WW3 doesn't start. You keep on renting, house prices rise over time, the value of your savings is nibbled away by inflation and in 20 years time where will you be?

We tend to consider the risk of taking an action while failing to recognise the risk of inaction.

An excellent reply.

DaisyFloop · 07/08/2024 23:14

Vizella · 07/08/2024 22:43

Of course I know that, I meant a state in America that specifically doesn’t have these things 😊👍

You've never been to America have you

CiaDinnerout · 07/08/2024 23:14

@Vizella u are being unreasonable, due to history always haveing different fears during different eras, the tech advances but people are the same

suburberphobe · 07/08/2024 23:13

Build up a liquid fund as well

No idea what that means...... visions of a well-stocked drinks cabinet. 😅

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 07/08/2024 23:13

Vizella · 07/08/2024 22:43

Of course I know that, I meant a state in America that specifically doesn’t have these things 😊👍

How will you get there OP?

Ww3 will be tech based I'm sure so you won't be able to book a flight online for a start! Whatever happens US will be in the thick of it. Your savings in the bank will be inaccessible as systems will fail. The best position you could be in is owning your own place and growing some food.

You know of course this is all ridiculous and you should just do what makes you happy now, assuming no apocalypse.

MrsMop1964 · 07/08/2024 23:12

Has someone been watching Threads? It was South Yorkshire (Sheffield) that got nuked .

ElizabethCage · 07/08/2024 23:10

Apparently if there's a nuclear attack one of the safest places to be is Skegness and I still wouldn't move back there! Move somewhere you'll be happy and get a therapist.

tara66 · 07/08/2024 23:08

Leaving your savings in a bank may be less safe than buying a house as banks are likely to crash in the event of WW3 and your money will be gone. So you won't have either house or money.

DaisyFloop · 07/08/2024 23:08

In a WORLD War, you would leave South Yorkshire for America?! 😂 sorry but that had me laughing

Leanmeansmitingmachine · 07/08/2024 23:08

Is this really how people are thinking?!

Education79 · 07/08/2024 23:08

Bear in mind that money these days has no intrinsic value, if the central bank or currency you have goes pear shaped due to war the notes, coins or figures on a spreadsheet will have no value.

To be sure you would need to change your money to gold or jewels now, which can be traded anywhere.

There must be some old ROC posts for sale in South Yorkshire, usually run about £30K, resistant to all but a direct strike, one bedroom, one desk, two bunk beds and a chemical lavvy.

Here's one in cumbria, sadly sold STC, only £15K

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/150092108#/?channel=COM_BUY

Check out this Land for sale on Rightmove

Land for sale in ROC Nuclear Bunker, Land to the North East of Dent Station, Sedbergh, Cumbria LA10 5RF, LA10 for £15,000. Marketed by SDL Property Auctions, Nationwide

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/150092108#/?channel=COM_BUY

TeaGinandFags · 07/08/2024 23:07

This isn't meant to be harsh, but have you considered counselling?

There's something eating you away in the back of your brain and it's finding it's expression here.

Buy your house and dare the drones to do their worst. You're actually all set for a lovely life. If WW3 comes to pass, you'll be able to say you told us so - and that is priceless.

maddening · 07/08/2024 23:04

If you own your own property you could build a bunker in the garden?

Mirabai · 07/08/2024 23:02

You sound young. I remember thinking WW3 was coming in Gulf War 1. Still here and property is worth a helluva lot more than it was then.

JustKeepSwimmingJust · 07/08/2024 23:00

It’s a very slim margin between a large majority of housing in the U.K. becomes uninhabitable and pounds Sterling have no more value than the ability to use them to start fires.

there is no point keeping hold of money which is intrinsically valueless and not having secure shelter, which has actual value.

Build up a liquid fund as well, but the mostly likely outcomes in order are that ww3 either won’t happen, won’t affect your specific house, or will cause a systemic collapse where we return to hunter gatherer living.

unless you want to move to a remote island in advance, just live your life.

LovelyDaaling · 07/08/2024 22:56

You can't live your life thinking like this. Yorkshire won't be top of the hit list in WW3.

Terea · 07/08/2024 22:55

i think you should talk to your GP, not Mumsnet.

Saschka · 07/08/2024 22:52

Vizella · 07/08/2024 22:19

America- somewhere remote and with a good enough climate- no tornadoes, hurricanes or earthquakes.

America won’t be letting refugees in. And how are you going to get there, swim?

AutumnLeaves5 · 07/08/2024 22:46

I think it’s more likely that America will have destroyed itself in a civil war before your house in Yorkshire gets bombed in WW3…

alwaysmovingforwards · 07/08/2024 22:45

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Exactly 😆😆

OP, your mindset is akin to not leaving the house on the basis you might get struck by lightening, or get hit by a bus or a piano falls on your head.
Yes it might happen, but part of life in general is about appropriately managing risks & rewards.

Lovingsummers · 07/08/2024 22:44

You can't live like that. I'm not sure how much savings will be worth in the event of the scale you're worried about anyway.

Vizella · 07/08/2024 22:43

Greenbike · 07/08/2024 22:25

America has all three of these things

Of course I know that, I meant a state in America that specifically doesn’t have these things 😊👍

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NannyGythaOgg · 07/08/2024 22:43

If WW3 hits, it will be the last thing on your mind (probably literally as you wont be here any more). If you are still here. The only people getting out will be those with MILLIONS in the bank - and that ain't you.

The superpowers (egomaniacal idiots) such as Putin and Trump are 100% bluffing because now ONE GOES, WE ALL GO. They are stupid in a different way to the rest of humanity BUT they do know the consequences.

Dinosaurs existed for millions of years and (as far as we know) were wiped out by a single cataclysmic event.

Live life for today (financially for your reasonably expected demise) but. A traffic accident is far more likely than a world event

LadyRoughDiamond · 07/08/2024 22:42

Before you make a decision, spend some time reading a few history books (I recommend Andrew Marr, History of Modern Britain) and listening to podcasts (The Rest Is History - Dominic Sandbrook is fab). You’ll get more of a sense of how cyclical these things are; an idea of how the world has been through, and survived, so many peaks and troughs. It’s natural to be worried, but history gives us a great sense of perspective and of hope.

MsCactus · 07/08/2024 22:40

I think to be safe you should buy three houses in different locations and an underground bunker