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Childcare - is she being a CF?

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Hardknocks · 07/08/2024 16:55

DH and I both work full time, but he’s off on a Thursday when he looks after DD who is 2.

SIL works 10-4 Monday to Friday and has so far avoided paying for any childcare for 10 year old niece by getting the neighbour to watch her..

Anyway the neighbour can’t do tomorrow or Friday so she has (just) text me to say please could DH have her tomorrow and I have her at home with me Friday (I WFH). I have work meetings but she said oh don’t worry she will just watch tv.. DH thinks she’s being a complete CF. I feel guilty for potentially saying no and leaving her in the lurch but also pissed off that I’m essentially paying for childcare for DD and looking after someone else’s child.

WWYD?

OP posts:
GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 07/08/2024 17:49

I would have said a flat out no to the Friday. Once you’ve done it once she’ll think it’s open season whenever she’s “in a bind” ie doesn’t want to pay for childcare.

The Thursday when your husband is off work I might have said yes to in his shoes as the 10 yo can help with the 2 yo.

Edit - I’ve seen she’s not his sister as I assumed but your brother’s wife - so request is really from your brother to you: still no to the Friday though.

SouthLondonMum22 · 07/08/2024 17:47

Hardknocks · 07/08/2024 17:43

To the person that said I was drip feeding - I certainly wasn’t purposely.

I have said it’s a one off as an emergency this week, my work don’t allow me to work with children at the same time but on this occasion I’ll make it work as she’s in a bind.

She’s in a bind because they have unreliable childcare.

I hope your work don’t find out. I certainly wouldn’t be taking the risk.

Twilightstarbright · 07/08/2024 17:47

As I said on another thread, there would need to be a serious emergency for me to look after someone else’s child whilst I paid for my own to be in childcare. This doesn’t sound like one- a failure to plan on your part is not an emergency on mine.

Abigail47 · 07/08/2024 17:45

Yes my workplace would not allow me to have a child in the house if I'm working from home either.

I would get disciplined for it.

SouthLondonMum22 · 07/08/2024 17:44

sunsetsandboardwalks · 07/08/2024 17:37

Well, I don't really think having a 10 year old on your sofa watching TV counts as childcare.

But as OP has done a massive drip feed that she already does plenty of actual care, that changes things considerably.

I’d be disciplined for that if my work found out I had a primary age child at home when I’m supposed to be working.

OP’s work may be more relaxed about it but many places aren’t.

Abigail47 · 07/08/2024 17:44

Hardknocks · 07/08/2024 17:43

To the person that said I was drip feeding - I certainly wasn’t purposely.

I have said it’s a one off as an emergency this week, my work don’t allow me to work with children at the same time but on this occasion I’ll make it work as she’s in a bind.

I would have said no straightaway.

Sometimes you have to stand up to people.

Especially in this instance where she has very shaky childcare in place.

How on earth would a neighbour ever be able to take care of the child for five days every week.

Hardknocks · 07/08/2024 17:43

To the person that said I was drip feeding - I certainly wasn’t purposely.

I have said it’s a one off as an emergency this week, my work don’t allow me to work with children at the same time but on this occasion I’ll make it work as she’s in a bind.

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Abigail47 · 07/08/2024 17:41

No is a full answer.

I would definitely say no

Daleksatemyshed · 07/08/2024 17:39

If you're happy to do it Op that's fine but I'd be very aware you're setting a precedent here. If the neighbour gets ill or fed up with the situation your SIL will be straight back on to you. Most employers really don't like you having children at home when you're WFH so I'd make it very clear this is a one off, you can't afford to lose your job because your DB and his wife don't want to pay someone to look after their DC

Abigail47 · 07/08/2024 17:39

OP I would say no.

You are working from home.

Also, it's not like your SIL has any kind of childcare properly sorted out, which she needs to do.

The neighbour is starting to back out and your SIL is going to start landing the child on you more and more if you say yes

I would say no.

Sil can pay for a summer camp

OlympicsFanGirl · 07/08/2024 17:39

eish · 07/08/2024 16:57

I would agree to Thursday as DH is not working but absolutely refuse Friday. You are working.

This

Yes to Thursday
No to Friday

Chocolateorange22 · 07/08/2024 17:39

'sorry I'm working, DC is in this holiday club I imagine they might have spaces. Unfortunately I can't take on Friday as it's a disciplinary offence as part of my contract to have children at home with me whilst working'

She's a CF

BettyBardMacDonald · 07/08/2024 17:39

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 07/08/2024 17:01

Assuming that you don't have the 2 year old at home while you work just say that your work have a policy that you can't have children in the house when you wfh. Let dh make his own excuses.

This. It's likely true; every employer I'm aware of doesn't permit childminding to be mixed with wfh.

Her emergency is not your problem. Let her find and pay a minder.

Abigail47 · 07/08/2024 17:38

Flossyts · 07/08/2024 17:21

Not sure what the big deal is tbh. Family should help each other. Presumably they’d step up if you were in a bind?
My 9 and 7 year olds entertain themselves if I happen to be working (a teacher training day or whatnot) and haven’t got childcare. They aren’t any bother at all 🤷‍♀️. The 3 year old goes into childcare as he is definitely bother!

You said "my 9 and 7 year olds entertain themselves".

I certainly wouldn't want to look after a nine and seven year old for a whole day.

Especially while Im working From home alone.

Seven is young . He could easily get into an accident

sunsetsandboardwalks · 07/08/2024 17:37

SouthLondonMum22 · 07/08/2024 17:36

It matters because OP is working. She’s paying for hers to be in childcare to work, not so she can look after someone else’s child for free.

Well, I don't really think having a 10 year old on your sofa watching TV counts as childcare.

But as OP has done a massive drip feed that she already does plenty of actual care, that changes things considerably.

PartOfTheFurniture12 · 07/08/2024 17:37

Do not give her an inch. Some people have very strange ideas about WFH - that it is somehow not real work because you're not physically in the office. If you give way, she will carry on asking you. She needs to address her childcare issues properly and at the very least communicate with the neighbour properly to avoid last minute problems (assuming it was a genuine communication error and she hasn't just left it until it's an "emergency" in the hopes of pressuring you into doing it). It's the summer holidays, for Christ's sake, it's not a surprise that her 10-year-old needs looking after.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 07/08/2024 17:36

@Hardknocks I would say that at the very least, your brother needs to bring her over to yours and collect her!! rush hour on fridays starts around 3pm and it is a nightmare crossing town. no idea how far they live from you but i can see this escalating into a regular occurence and them just using you!! you are being taken for a mug by both your brother and sis in law!

SouthLondonMum22 · 07/08/2024 17:36

sunsetsandboardwalks · 07/08/2024 17:31

But OP's child is two and the niece is 10 - in terms of care and supervision, you really can't compare the two. OP even says herself that she'll just watch TV.

I also can't see why it matters that the SIL doesn't use paid childcare? She had an arrangement in place that fell through so now needs some help - it's not really relevant that that help happens to be free Confused

It matters because OP is working. She’s paying for hers to be in childcare to work, not so she can look after someone else’s child for free.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 07/08/2024 17:36

Hardknocks · 07/08/2024 17:26

Questionable as in lots of drinking/arguing at home, hence looking after her on weekends but that’s separate to this thread

How is it separate when you already do plenty of childcare as it is? Confused

LookItsMeAgain · 07/08/2024 17:32

So you already look after your niece at the weekends and now your SiL is asking you (as a once off .... for now) to look after her tomorrow and Friday?

Tough shit.

Brother is going to have to take a day or two off and look after his own kid. I feel so sorry for the kid here but it is NOT your responsibility nor is it your DH's responsibility to look after this kid. Your brother has to step up here.

Therealjudgejudy · 07/08/2024 17:32

I would be concerned that this would become a regular request.

You need to say no, as you are working, not running a childminders.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 07/08/2024 17:31

PeloMom · 07/08/2024 17:22

The SIL has always relied on others to watch her child; I’d say it’s one off if say, club fell through last minute, an emergency happened to the paid childcare and she has a career breaking/making event so she can’t take a day or two off. But with a person like that it’s usually you give them an inch and they take a mile.
also OP’s H has plans for one day and she paid for childcare so she can work on the second day.

But OP's child is two and the niece is 10 - in terms of care and supervision, you really can't compare the two. OP even says herself that she'll just watch TV.

I also can't see why it matters that the SIL doesn't use paid childcare? She had an arrangement in place that fell through so now needs some help - it's not really relevant that that help happens to be free Confused

ILoveNigelTufnel · 07/08/2024 17:31

This is one of the reasons why so many companies don’t want to continue with WFH. You can not look after a child properly and do your job properly - it’s not fair on you or your niece.
You can and should say no, they’re totally taking the piss.

Hardknocks · 07/08/2024 17:26

Questionable as in lots of drinking/arguing at home, hence looking after her on weekends but that’s separate to this thread

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AnonymousBleep · 07/08/2024 17:26

You're making a rod for your own back. Agree to this once, and you'll be doing it on a regular basis. I honestly wouldn't - because you won't be able to work properly with a child to look after anyway.

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