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So much for rioters deterrent sentences

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GPTec1 · 07/08/2024 12:29

4 sentenced so far : 2 weeks, 3 years and two lots of 18months... for violence, attacking the emergency services, burning out a Police car, violent disorder & looting.

Quite honestly these sentences are beyond pathetic and will not stop anyone rioting.

Then we have very weak policing & lack of police numbers.

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WickieRoy · 07/08/2024 13:01

You can tell someone's education level by their picture now?

PeachSnake · 07/08/2024 12:57

What I don't get is people saying these are middle class citizens from educated backgrounds, they aren't, you can see by the photos that they are mindless uneducated oxygen thieves.

So much for rioters deterrent sentences
Whenwillitgetwarm · 07/08/2024 12:56

VanCleefArpels · 07/08/2024 12:36

They will however completely fuck up those peoples future employment prospects so there that….

Watch an influx of tradesman and builders labourers available for work soon….This is why if I’m having any work done on my home, I will only be employing those recommended to me, and will be googling their names. I will be doing my best to avoid giving any of these rioters a job opportunity.

Kebarbra · 07/08/2024 12:49

GPTec1 · 07/08/2024 12:45

Neither do you.

Its my opinion and if JSO protestors get 5 years for non violent acts, why is smashing up a town centre, attacking the Police and burning emg service vehicles only worthy of 18months?

120 protests planned, MPs told to work from home.

How bad do you want it to get?

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Did you actually read much into the JSO sentences? All had previous convictions (which is taken into account when sentencing), and the length aligned with what they had done. Despite the narrative they were trying to push, they weren't imprisoned simply for peaceful protest.

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GPTec1 · 07/08/2024 12:47

Paganpentacle · 07/08/2024 12:45

Police don't decide on sentencing.
Judges are bound by sentencing guidelines and they are limited to what they can hand down.
I'm thinking water cannons in the first place would have been a better option...

I know that.

Rioting sentencing guidelines are 3 to 9 years with a max of 10 years.

Yes water canon but i understand that would require a change in the law, so irrelevant in terms of timescales.

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GPTec1 · 07/08/2024 12:45

HeyTalkToMeGoose · 07/08/2024 12:33

Quite honestly these sentences are beyond pathetic and will not stop anyone rioting.

How do you know that?? You don't....

Neither do you.

Its my opinion and if JSO protestors get 5 years for non violent acts, why is smashing up a town centre, attacking the Police and burning emg service vehicles only worthy of 18months?

120 protests planned, MPs told to work from home.

How bad do you want it to get?

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Paganpentacle · 07/08/2024 12:45

Police don't decide on sentencing.
Judges are bound by sentencing guidelines and they are limited to what they can hand down.
I'm thinking water cannons in the first place would have been a better option...

materialgworl · 07/08/2024 12:44

2 weeks in prison may seem low but a criminal conviction nonetheless

crumblingschools · 07/08/2024 12:44

I wonder if it will stop people attending the counter protests as wouldn't want to risk getting a prison sentence

crumblingschools · 07/08/2024 12:43

I wouldn't want to spend anytime in prison. Bet no-one thought whilst they were lobbing bricks and confronting the police that they might end up in prison, bet most thought they would get was suspended sentence/community service

Ponoka7 · 07/08/2024 12:39

Are you and yours applying to the Police and add on services? Were are they expected to pluck trained officers from?

Kebarbra · 07/08/2024 12:38

Of course it will deter some people at least, going to prison isn't just about the time spend serving, it has many implications (rightly or wrongly) on future prospects. If you want a real shock on sentences plenty of rape, manslaughter, death by dangerous driving sentences to be horrified at.

OlympicsFanGirl · 07/08/2024 12:38

Prison sentences of any duration are significant and the duration will be dependent on what the person actually did and any previous.

So YABU

taxguru · 07/08/2024 12:38

VanCleefArpels · 07/08/2024 12:36

They will however completely fuck up those peoples future employment prospects so there that….

It won't stop them being self employed in most cases, except maybe for professional roles where even self employed are vetted (financial services etc).

Begsthequestion · 07/08/2024 12:38

Maybe some of the judges support them. It's not exactly an institution that is a bastion of egalitarianism is it

Normallynumb · 07/08/2024 12:37

Hopefully they will be a deterrent for the planned riots tonight
One of them was guilty of inciting hate online too

VanCleefArpels · 07/08/2024 12:36

They will however completely fuck up those peoples future employment prospects so there that….

Maddy70 · 07/08/2024 12:36

Also means potential loss of jobs. When the new EU travel estas come in they may be refused

WickieRoy · 07/08/2024 12:35

I think both 3 years and 18 months are pretty hefty sentences that will hopefully act as a deterrent - and have many more lying awake at night waiting for their turn to be arrested.

Sirzy · 07/08/2024 12:35

I think they will make many think twice. Add into that the fact the sentences will mean loss of jobs etc too.

how long where you expecting them to be sentenced to?

HeyTalkToMeGoose · 07/08/2024 12:33

Quite honestly these sentences are beyond pathetic and will not stop anyone rioting.

How do you know that?? You don't....

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