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So much for rioters deterrent sentences

146 replies

GPTec1 · 07/08/2024 12:29

4 sentenced so far : 2 weeks, 3 years and two lots of 18months... for violence, attacking the emergency services, burning out a Police car, violent disorder & looting.

Quite honestly these sentences are beyond pathetic and will not stop anyone rioting.

Then we have very weak policing & lack of police numbers.

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marshlellow · 07/08/2024 16:39

Fifferfefferfeff · 07/08/2024 16:34

My nan went to prison for three weeks for refusal to pay a find for obstructing the highway (standing on the pavement) as a protest against trident. She was a pensioner, a little old lady, never hurt a fly.

She had an option to pay a fine though

magnificentkangaroo · 07/08/2024 16:39

Doingtheboxerbeat · 07/08/2024 15:56

I wouldn't survive 1 night in prison so I think that any sentence is better than none at all - I think even the toughest numbnut will be humbled by a six weeker.

that is what I was thinking, 18 months is a very long time to be incarcerated in one of our prisons, they lose their job (if they have one) come out with a criminal record and all what that means going forward in the future, just glad that these people are behind bars and I think it will be a deterrent to some of them, having said that criminals probably never think they're going to be caught so just carry on!

marshlellow · 07/08/2024 16:39

Sirzy · 07/08/2024 12:35

I think they will make many think twice. Add into that the fact the sentences will mean loss of jobs etc too.

how long where you expecting them to be sentenced to?

I agree.

Mrsjayy · 07/08/2024 16:38

Mrsjayy · 07/08/2024 16:10

Is it the 6 men I know including Dh that have a trade are decent men with no criminal record ! Please don't include all wc men in with your unfactual comment!

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God I meant non factual!

Fifferfefferfeff · 07/08/2024 16:34

My nan went to prison for three weeks for refusal to pay a find for obstructing the highway (standing on the pavement) as a protest against trident. She was a pensioner, a little old lady, never hurt a fly.

Fifferfefferfeff · 07/08/2024 16:31

Sirzy · 07/08/2024 12:35

I think they will make many think twice. Add into that the fact the sentences will mean loss of jobs etc too.

how long where you expecting them to be sentenced to?

Planning a traffic jam means a 5 year prison sentence, so I'd expect racist violence to carry at least 6 times that, to be honest.

Mrsjayy · 07/08/2024 16:29

ElspethofEcclefechan · 07/08/2024 16:26

Should've been longer.

I'm glad they're going to prison though. I don't think they would've expected that when they felt like tough guys 🙄

They probably didn't expect it to be so quick they probably assumed bail, the one who handed himself in had 20+ convictions so probably thought oh I've handed myself in, it will be fine !

Tattletwat · 07/08/2024 16:29

wizzywig · 07/08/2024 16:07

They're probably unemployed as their career or in trades. It's the norm to have a criminal record in the trades

Utter rot and you know it, imagine complaining about racism then tarring a group of people with same brush.

Kebarbra · 07/08/2024 16:27

wizzywig · 07/08/2024 16:07

They're probably unemployed as their career or in trades. It's the norm to have a criminal record in the trades

Don't be ridiculous ffs.

ElspethofEcclefechan · 07/08/2024 16:26

Should've been longer.

I'm glad they're going to prison though. I don't think they would've expected that when they felt like tough guys 🙄

TheMousePipes · 07/08/2024 16:22

wizzywig · 07/08/2024 16:07

They're probably unemployed as their career or in trades. It's the norm to have a criminal record in the trades

It really, really isn’t you know.

Mrsjayy · 07/08/2024 16:10

wizzywig · 07/08/2024 16:07

They're probably unemployed as their career or in trades. It's the norm to have a criminal record in the trades

Is it the 6 men I know including Dh that have a trade are decent men with no criminal record ! Please don't include all wc men in with your unfactual comment!

wizzywig · 07/08/2024 16:07

They're probably unemployed as their career or in trades. It's the norm to have a criminal record in the trades

maddiemookins16mum · 07/08/2024 16:03

3 years inside, losing your job, not seeing your wains, possibly losing your home, animals, friends etc, no money, pretty hefty deterrent if you ask me.

Bullbreedbliss · 07/08/2024 16:03

VanCleefArpels · 07/08/2024 12:36

They will however completely fuck up those peoples future employment prospects so there that….

No it won’t.

PandoraSox · 07/08/2024 16:03

They have all pled guilty though, haven't they? Which often means a more lenient sentence?

sunflowrsngunpowdr · 07/08/2024 16:00

GPTec1 · 07/08/2024 12:29

4 sentenced so far : 2 weeks, 3 years and two lots of 18months... for violence, attacking the emergency services, burning out a Police car, violent disorder & looting.

Quite honestly these sentences are beyond pathetic and will not stop anyone rioting.

Then we have very weak policing & lack of police numbers.

Longer than a lot of child abusers get.

OhmygodDont · 07/08/2024 15:59

Doingtheboxerbeat · 07/08/2024 15:56

I wouldn't survive 1 night in prison so I think that any sentence is better than none at all - I think even the toughest numbnut will be humbled by a six weeker.

Min security, low sentence. Three meals a day. TVs and games consoles in their cells, access to further education and work programs. Easy access to drugs too mind.

A cushty 6 weeks tbh.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 07/08/2024 15:56

I wouldn't survive 1 night in prison so I think that any sentence is better than none at all - I think even the toughest numbnut will be humbled by a six weeker.

CaptainBolt · 07/08/2024 15:54

Whenwillitgetwarm · 07/08/2024 13:04

Many of us know the type of animals running around destroying cars and setting fire to hotels. They were the ones at school who kept bunking off, weren’t interested, made ‘Swots’ lives hell. When teachers tried to discipline them, their mum, if she could be bothered, would ‘come up the school’ to scream at the teacher.

They left school at the first opportunity, with a reading age of 7 at best. They worked cash in hand in a trade, clocking off early on a Friday to go ‘up the pub’ and get coked up with the lads. Somehow they always seem to have a woman willing to take them on. Their poor neighbours have to listen to them effing and blinding. Their kids are out all hours, and when they go to school make the other kids and teachers lives hell.

They resent anyone who’s lives are more successful than there’s despite having done nothing to improve their own lives. They resent it even more if that person isn’t white.

When they reach retirement age they talk about having ‘worked all their lives’ when in reality they’ve been subsidised and have cost money, due to numerous A&E visits and lung issues from the fags.

Now them and their kids are running around like a pack of animals with England tattoos and flags, calling themselves patriots when they contribute the square root of fuck all and just take.

Haha this is a great write up. I wish there weren't people like this. 😞

OhmygodDont · 07/08/2024 15:53

Now if only rapists and child abusers were convicted so fast. Oh no wait will never happen 🙄

VanCleefArpels · 07/08/2024 15:50

mightymam · 07/08/2024 15:19

How else is the racist police and racist legal system going to deal with racists? 🤔🤔

how do you square that statement with the “two tier policing” claims??

Mrsjayy · 07/08/2024 15:39

AmusedMaker · 07/08/2024 15:28

They left school at the first opportunity, with a reading age of 7 at best

this in particular from your post.

why is that happening?

Trouble makers from troubled chaotic families barely make it to school I do think a lot of the teachers support staff time is taken up with getting them settled and to behave and that's before any senco is involved. 1 of my dc has a specific learning difficulty and was in a few sen classes and groups throughout school and a few boys in the groups were a total nightmare the parents didn't care unless they were in trouble then they would march to school complaininf and arguing, and schools couldn't cope it was a loop.
They are now grown men who hang about the bookies and the pub and are coked up and fight that's a normal weekend to them, they now have kids who they probably never bother about until it suits them and it just goes on I have no idea what the answer is.

DameCelia · 07/08/2024 15:37

mightymam · 07/08/2024 15:19

How else is the racist police and racist legal system going to deal with racists? 🤔🤔

@mightymam
I can't speak for the police but I can assure you that in many years in the profession I have met staggeringly few racist lawyers. I don't know how they carry on at home, granted, but it's kind of an obligation in our professional conduct rules to uphold justice, which usually means not being racist.

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