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I guess the rioters have booked time off work?

216 replies

SunQueen24 · 07/08/2024 10:44

Just strikes me that they’re all available during the working week and yet they somehow think they’re the backbone of society.

If I had to chose who I wanted to eradicate from society it would be exactly these cretins. Fit and healthy enough to riot, fight and terrorise police officers who all have families to get back to but not fit enough to be occupied with any economic activity during the day.

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NeverEnoughPants · 07/08/2024 11:37

Not everyone works 9-5 Monday to Friday.

hotpotlover · 07/08/2024 11:37

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 07/08/2024 11:12

I agree.

I am in no way defending the rioters or anything that they are doing, but happening to be free at (for example) 3pm on a Tuesday doesn't mean that someone must be unemployed. I'd much rather focus on condemning their actions rather than their perceived socio-economic status.

Lots of people are self-employed, or work part-time. Lots of people work unusual shift patterns. Lots of people work at weekends and have time off during the week. This is particularly true of those in working class jobs.

(Of course, those who are caught/convicted will likely lose their jobs, unless self employed. Those are the consequences of committing violent crime though.)

Edited

But even if that is true, don't you have to do other things to do in your time off work?

Looking after your kids, cooking, cleaning, life admin, gym? Or maybe just relaxing and watching Netflix?

Aren't these nicer activities rather than bashing in a migrant hotel?

I couldn't muster up the energy to do what they do after a hard day's work.

SunQueen24 · 07/08/2024 11:37

Beezknees · 07/08/2024 11:35

Nothing wrong with ranting about violent thugs but now you've got people calling them "scroungers" so that means anyone who is unemployed for whatever reason is a "scrounger?" Demonising benefit claimants isn't the way to go.

The post isn’t about “anyone who is unemployed for whatever reason” though?

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HeyTalkToMeGoose · 07/08/2024 11:37

The Muslim community are the one dishing out the tea and biscuits...

Fizbosshoes · 07/08/2024 11:37

One of the most depressing things about the riots is that after reports of police behaviour in recent years , there will be a contingent of them who love a riot and probably enjoy that they get get to be involved in a "legitimate" way.

Absolutely not condoning rioters or saying that all police are like that but it just struck me that a proportion of the people we're trusting to control and calm the situation , probably have a similar mentality to the instigators....

verdantverdure · 07/08/2024 11:36

Theunamedcat · 07/08/2024 11:31

The riots that are planned are for after 8pm it's all over the Internet so I'm guessing office job people are joining in now

The would be domestic terrorists have to sleep off their hangovers, go and see their cocaine dealers and then get pissed up again before they have the courage to call names at police officers.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 07/08/2024 11:36

SunQueen24 · 07/08/2024 11:35

You’re right. I will repent by taking them refreshments later. Do you think tea and biscuits is ok?

This is a stupid response.

There are more options beyond "eradicate" and "serve refreshments to".

SunQueen24 · 07/08/2024 11:35

EI12 · 07/08/2024 11:34

Eradicating from society - are you off your rocker? Any others you would like to eradicate? Disgusting post.

You’re right. I will repent by taking them refreshments later. Do you think tea and biscuits is ok?

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Beezknees · 07/08/2024 11:35

SunQueen24 · 07/08/2024 11:15

Only on MN can people contort themselves so much that they can perceive a rant about violent thugs as personal insults… 🫢

Nothing wrong with ranting about violent thugs but now you've got people calling them "scroungers" so that means anyone who is unemployed for whatever reason is a "scrounger?" Demonising benefit claimants isn't the way to go.

ItsAlrightDarling · 07/08/2024 11:35

If they’ve got jobs at the moment, I’m sure they won’t when they have to take time out for their prison stay.

Lwrenn · 07/08/2024 11:34

My highlight is how they moan Muslims are taking their jobs, because people who think saving kids is looting a steak bake and robbing bath bombs are ever going to become doctors. There will be rioters who can't tie their shoelaces, the audacity to complain about anyone, ever, is shocking.

I'm not saying every rioter is unemployed, just that they're not going to be people I'd happily let remove my appendix unlike my last surgeon who was Muslim.
(And to add unnecessarily, was very handsome which I told him when i was waking up from anesthesia 😱😳)

EI12 · 07/08/2024 11:34

Eradicating from society - are you off your rocker? Any others you would like to eradicate? Disgusting post.

Thepeopleversuswork · 07/08/2024 11:32

@Saschka

See, I’m sure most of them do. Probably reasonably well paid too, to afford the alcohol, coke and travel expenses.

You might be right. Which makes it even more contemptible that they are blaming this on “poverty” and the supposed “vendetta against the working class” tiny violin shit they wheel out when someone challenges them on why they are violent bigots.

It’s all OK lads we’re working class and the metropolitan elite is out to get us so let’s crack on with scaring the wits out of vulnerable people and destroying property. As you were.

Absolutely pathetic.

HeyTalkToMeGoose · 07/08/2024 11:32

SunQueen24 · 07/08/2024 11:15

Only on MN can people contort themselves so much that they can perceive a rant about violent thugs as personal insults… 🫢

Mumsnet is not the place to have a sensible discussion I'm afraid

Used to be, not anymore

Theunamedcat · 07/08/2024 11:31

The riots that are planned are for after 8pm it's all over the Internet so I'm guessing office job people are joining in now

verdantverdure · 07/08/2024 11:31

The ones taking their children to a riot shoukd get a knock from Social Services. Who does that?!

DoIWantTo · 07/08/2024 11:30

YABU for wanting to eradicate any person. The eradication of any group of people is despicable and abhorrent, if you want to fall as low as the nazis on you go. And yes, the rioters are absolutely no better but that doesn’t mean you should be out there promoting violence too.

BlueGrackle · 07/08/2024 11:29

If you read some of the comments on my local newspaper site from people that share similar views, they seem to have a lot of time on their hands too, judging the sheer volume of comments and times of posting.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 07/08/2024 11:27

Saschka · 07/08/2024 11:25

See, I’m sure most of them do. Probably reasonably well paid too, to afford the alcohol, coke and travel expenses.

And that is making them feel superior to “illegal immigrants on benefits funded by my taxes” (which I am aware is nonsense)

Looking at what local convicted football hooligans have done for a living (from the local paper) they have been factory machinists, coach makers, estate agents, builders. Looking in street view at the roads they live on, they are all reasonable-looking owner-occupied 3 bed semis.

I agree. I think we'll see that lots of these people in reasonably well paid jobs when the identities of these thugs start being made public.

They are racist thugs - that is the problem here. A racist thug is a racist thug regardless of whether they are unemployed or earning £100k.

Those who are saying that they can't possibly have ever had a job are trying to other them, because it's more comfortable to tell ourselves that we don't have large numbers of racist thugs participating in normal UK society.

Well we do, and most of them will be people you interact with in everyday life. The joiner who fitted your door, the estate agent who sold your house, the sales person who sold you your car, the retail worker in a shop you visit....

Saschka · 07/08/2024 11:25

Thepeopleversuswork · 07/08/2024 11:18

I would hazard a guess that very few of these cretins have ever had a steady job. The whole concept of taking responsibility for their lives must be pretty alien to them. Hence the “waah waah the immigrants are taking our jobs” schtick.

See, I’m sure most of them do. Probably reasonably well paid too, to afford the alcohol, coke and travel expenses.

And that is making them feel superior to “illegal immigrants on benefits funded by my taxes” (which I am aware is nonsense)

Looking at what local convicted football hooligans have done for a living (from the local paper) they have been factory machinists, coach makers, estate agents, builders. Looking in street view at the roads they live on, they are all reasonable-looking owner-occupied 3 bed semis.

sandgrown · 07/08/2024 11:24

In my line of work it would be instant dismissal for gross misconduct. Totally agree benefits should be stopped for those who should be actively seeking work . I am not a benefit basher but many of the people rioting have the brain capacity of an amoeba and would struggle to get a job .

poppymango · 07/08/2024 11:23

5foot5 · 07/08/2024 10:49

Who would employ these thick as mince, racist scum?

Plenty of employers are thick as mince racist scum.

Beezknees · 07/08/2024 11:23

Grandmasswagbag · 07/08/2024 11:21

Good point. We all know the vast majority of these people don't work. Scroungers paid for by hard working immigrants!

Calling people "scroungers" doesn't make you any better than them by the way.

Grandmasswagbag · 07/08/2024 11:23

A lot of the looters appear to be kids, so on summer holidays I guess.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 07/08/2024 11:23

Benefits bashing is a shitty thing to do, regardless of who your target is.