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Dd wants to get fat loss injection

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Behappyandbehave · 06/08/2024 16:40

I don't agree. She says 'everyone is taking it and it works'. She is 20 and ND. Also overweight (in the obese category just). Has social anxiety and vapes too much which makes physical exercise difficult as she's too embarrassed. There is no one for her to exercise with and she won't do it alone. She thinks the injection is the answer. Help!

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SilenceInside · 06/08/2024 20:13

@VoyOySaveloy you really can't eat junk food whilst on Mounjaro, I can't even face it in the slightest. Haven't eaten sweets, crisps, biscuits, chocolate, icecream, chips, takeaway, pizza etc etc in the 5 weeks I've been on it.

VoyOySaveloy · 06/08/2024 19:51

grapesstrawberriesplease · 06/08/2024 18:31

@VoyOySaveloy Mounjaro has taught me to reach for higher calorie, more nutrient dense snacks like nuts and seeds rather than quick fixes like chocolate bars, crisps and biscuits. It’s taught me to listen to my hunger cues and not just boredom or emotional eating. It’s helped regulate my hormones and lower my blood sugar also.

I’m very aware that many people pile the weight back on when stopping MJ, but at the heart of it, my cravings for UPF’s have stopped and I’m now genuinely really fancying higher fibre, higher protein snacks. It’s teaching me to listen to my hunger and not fill up on pasta and carbs (SW), calling chocolate ‘syns’ (SW) or calling food ‘points’ (WW). I will probably continue on a low MJ dose for as long as possible.

Respectfully, mounjaro hasn't taught you what foods to eat.
You could have just eaten the same junk food as usual on mounjaro, albeit in smaller quantities. I got zero nutritional advice on mounjaro.

I am old enough to know about UPFs, but wouldn't have been clued up on that kind of food at 19 when all my friends are eating burgers and chips.

AGoingConcern · 06/08/2024 19:40

She's 20. Unless she's asking you to pay for it then it's not your decision and you shouldn't be trying to tell her what to do.

Support her in making a decision about her body that she feels good about. Encourage her to explore the pros and cons thoroughly for herself but don't try to scare her out of it or shame her for it. Unless she directly asks your opinion, don't bring it up.

NeedSomeAnswersPlease · 06/08/2024 19:37

@Thegreatgiginthesky not being funny but I'm 0.6 off being morbidly obese, I don't care if a bit of muscle goes with the fat

Thegreatgiginthesky · 06/08/2024 19:34

Footballwidow24 · 06/08/2024 18:57

Doesn't that apply to all weight loss through diets though? Hence yo-yo dieting leading to weight increase long term

Yes it does although it does depend on the speed of the weight loss. It is likely to be faster if you are taking a drug that curbs your appetite and if it is faster a higher % will be muscle.

Idontjetwashthefucker · 06/08/2024 19:33

iamtheblcksheep · 06/08/2024 17:37

Which one are you taking

Mounjaro

Idontjetwashthefucker · 06/08/2024 19:31

letsjustdothis · 06/08/2024 16:58

Big risk of thyroid cancer, doesn't actually teach you to eat better, put the weight back on when you stop.

Edited

Way to be supportive, cheers

PrincessPeache · 06/08/2024 19:31

Sunsetbeachhouse · 06/08/2024 19:17

The context to this is weight loss requires will power. If you are otherwise medically able then you have the ability to lose weight without injections. if this wasn't possible ppl with obesity wouldn't slim down ever without aid. You both have good points but ultimately it comes down to if you want to then you CAN lose weight with a calorie controlled (safe and healthy controlled) diet.

Edited

Actually there are evidenced biological processes that do prevent obese people from losing significant amounts of weight and which also predispose them to gain even more weight after they’ve lost a small amount. It’s not a case of not “wanting it” enough.

GoFigure235 · 06/08/2024 19:30

OP, was your DD overweight as a child/teenager? If so, it's going to be significantly harder for her to lose weight naturally than someone who reaches 18 a healthy weight and then piles on a few pounds in their 20s. Childhood weight issues are incredibly hard to sort out in adulthood.

I've heard good things about this treatment. It works, apparently. There may be side effects, but I'm not sure they're going to be worse than the health effects of carrying excess weight, self-esteem issues and (self-imposed often) social exclusion.

And the 'what do you learn?' crowd can take a hike. Obesity isn't a moral issue or a lifestyle failing. It's the result of a complex set of interacting factors, only some of which are within the patient's control.

LoquaciousPineapple · 06/08/2024 19:28

Mercurysinretrograde · 06/08/2024 18:43

I’ve been on Ozempic for 4 months with good results but I would hesitate with this. Is she able to pay for it herself and to inject herself? And remember when to do it? If the answer to any of these is no then don’t go there. If she is able to take on this responsibility including cost and administering the injections then she may also be responsible enough to reform her eating habits and take up exercise. If not you’re both wasting your time and subjecting her to health risks and she will go back to eating afterwards with increased enthusiasm. You’d be better cutting out junk food and any snacks at home and going for a family walk once a day. The injections are hard work with nasty side effects and if she does not stick to a proper diet while on them she will struggle with nausea and diarrhea/constipation. It’s not much fun and not an easy fix.

The injections aren't "hard work with nasty side effects" for everyone, stop scaremongering. I've been on it 14 weeks and the worst I've had is some mild constipation which was handled by drinking a bit more water.

I won't say they're an "easy fix" but they make eating a calorie controlled diet incredibly easy for me, which I have never managed to maintain in the past.

TheBanffie · 06/08/2024 19:23

Whatever happens, she should NOT buy it from anywhere that's not properly regulated. There are reports of fake ozempic being sold and causing serious illness- sometimes because the fake pens have insulin in them. There is a major shortage and people need to be very careful. If someone is selling it on facebook or from a beautician's it's illegal and probably fake.

MeinKraft · 06/08/2024 19:23

GingerPirate · 06/08/2024 17:35

Watching what and how much you stick in your mouth works better and is safer.
Not mentioning the cost.

Wow if only someone had thought of this before now the obesity crisis would be solved! You should write a book, you'd make millions. 👏🏻

Jk987 · 06/08/2024 19:21

She can exercise if she wants because there's brisk walking, home workouts, endless possibilities.

Does she buy lots of chocolate and crisps? Maybe she's comfort eating.

NeedSomeAnswersPlease · 06/08/2024 19:19

@Sunsetbeachhouse of course you can. But usually obese people have a mental health condition such as an eating disorder

Sunsetbeachhouse · 06/08/2024 19:17

PrincessPeache · 06/08/2024 18:48

Except it doesn’t work, actually.

Just another person who believes that a person with obesity is just a glutton who doesn’t try hard enough to lose weight.

The context to this is weight loss requires will power. If you are otherwise medically able then you have the ability to lose weight without injections. if this wasn't possible ppl with obesity wouldn't slim down ever without aid. You both have good points but ultimately it comes down to if you want to then you CAN lose weight with a calorie controlled (safe and healthy controlled) diet.

Snozzlemaid · 06/08/2024 19:17

Support her to do proper research on this and make sure she gets a proper prescription from a legitimate pharmacy.
Her info will be checked by a doctor before being prescribed.

The many Mounjaro threads on here would be a great read for her. They're so supportive, which is a great help when all we get from those who don't know much about it is ridicule and scaremongering.

FunWithFlagz · 06/08/2024 19:14

letsjustdothis · 06/08/2024 16:58

Big risk of thyroid cancer, doesn't actually teach you to eat better, put the weight back on when you stop.

Edited

No there isn’t. No human got thyroid cancer in any of the big trials. It’s only been proven in animal studies. There obviously is a risk, but to say there is a ‘big risk’ is misleading

SilenceInside · 06/08/2024 19:07

@Soontobe60 the worry about thyroid cancer comes from a study on mice where they were exposed to lifelong super high amounts of the drug. No evidence was found in the two main large human studies. The manufacturer has to mention it but the risk is not significant.

Sunsetbeachhouse · 06/08/2024 19:00

Op please speak to a health professional with your dd. They will need to discuss this with her, to see if this is the right option and I'm sure take note of medical history. There are pros and cons as with any mediation , and these need to be discussed with the correct health professional.

Footballwidow24 · 06/08/2024 18:57

Thegreatgiginthesky · 06/08/2024 18:31

I would support her but make sure she realises that unless she lifts weights alongside the medication around 50% of the weight loss will be muscle and then when she stops the drug her TDEE will have decreased and she will put the weight back on and end up with a higher fat % than what she started with.

With these drugs it is vital that lifestyle changes happen alongside.

Doesn't that apply to all weight loss through diets though? Hence yo-yo dieting leading to weight increase long term

SilenceInside · 06/08/2024 18:54

@CombatBarbie except, the whole point of the medication is that you don't want to and essentially can't overeat. You end up reducing calories easily because of a lack of hunger, a lack of a drive to binge on quick easy calories, and feeling fuller on much smaller portions.

Ottervision · 06/08/2024 18:54

Mercurysinretrograde · 06/08/2024 18:43

I’ve been on Ozempic for 4 months with good results but I would hesitate with this. Is she able to pay for it herself and to inject herself? And remember when to do it? If the answer to any of these is no then don’t go there. If she is able to take on this responsibility including cost and administering the injections then she may also be responsible enough to reform her eating habits and take up exercise. If not you’re both wasting your time and subjecting her to health risks and she will go back to eating afterwards with increased enthusiasm. You’d be better cutting out junk food and any snacks at home and going for a family walk once a day. The injections are hard work with nasty side effects and if she does not stick to a proper diet while on them she will struggle with nausea and diarrhea/constipation. It’s not much fun and not an easy fix.

She is 20! Not 12! Op can't impose family walks on her ffs.

Choochoo21 · 06/08/2024 18:54

How long has she been overweight?

Some people have tried for years to lose weight and just struggle.
This is a tool to help them.

But some people see this as an easy fix and a miracle cure, which is just isn’t.

If you are paying, I would tell her that you will only pay if she joins a gym/club and exercises 3 times a week and eats healthy, whole foods.

She needs to build healthy habits into her life because it’s not possible to stay on this medication long term.

If she really wants the medication and she’s serious about losing weight, then she’ll be willing to work hard to achieve the results.

PrincessPeache · 06/08/2024 18:48

GingerPirate · 06/08/2024 17:35

Watching what and how much you stick in your mouth works better and is safer.
Not mentioning the cost.

Except it doesn’t work, actually.

Just another person who believes that a person with obesity is just a glutton who doesn’t try hard enough to lose weight.

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