Dd wants to get fat loss injection

It's not a quick fix and there's also no shortage in the UK.

Tell her that because of people like her who want injections as a quick fix to lose weight, there are people with T1 diabetes that are struggling to get their medication to keep them alive.

As an ND person who is also considered obese, I am wary of these medications because of the effects on co-morbid conditions.

I don't know what other health conditions your DD may or may not have, but it is very common for ND people to have connective tissue disorders and GI issues, both of which put you at increased risk for gastroparesis- a known potential side-effect of these medications. I have thought about these injections before and, ultimately, I came to the conclusion that for me, with my existing chronic health conditions, it isn't worth the risk.

Obviously this may not be the case for your DD, but it's worth looking into those risks if she's ever had any issues with hypermobility, muscle tone, or her GI system.

Also, I think people seem to misunderstand that being in the 30+ BMI category and trying to lose weight for health is a very different situation to being in a normal BMI category and trying to lose half a stone before a beach holiday or whatever.

I think a GP visit is a good idea, maybe the three of you can create a plan for the next six months and go from there.

If she's uncomfortable at her weight, feeling embarrassed to exercise, it's going to limit her ability to take in new information, create positive habits, etc. So it sounds like the ADHD meds are the first port of call to help her get in a better headspace.

I'm using Mounjaro for weight loss and it's working well for me. My weight crept up over the years, and now I'm peri-menopausal so it's even harder to lose the weight than when I was younger (and pre-DC).

The nay-sayers for this method of losing weight seem particularly vitriolic, but I think there is a swathe of MNers who enjoy being nasty towards overweight people. Oh well, not my problem.

Exercise can be walking. Surely she will go for a walk alone. Up to her I guess but I would be a little worried if my 20yr old was using them. Largely as they will just end up piling it back on again (like any diet if not sustained, but with a regular diet you get used to the hunger and it subsides, I guess with the drug it very helpfully gets rid of the hunger, which will be a problem when it’s stopped). Just my opinion, I have never taken it, I’ve lost weight many times but just reduce calories and increase walking, it works

Some very misinformed attitudes here! I would advise her to hold off for the time being, simply because she is starting ADHD meds which may reduce some of the compulsive behaviours and give her some headspace. She may lose her appetite initially on the adhd meds. The combination of both, at least at the beginning, could cause her to restrict too much. I would advise her to educate herself as much as possible on GLP1 medications and how they work so that her decision is an informed one.

Me personally, I think they are life changing and the benefits to my health have been extraordinary.

I would definitely support her on this, and encourage her to discuss with her doctor beforehand.

They are much better than SW, WW etc IME. I was using Saxenda from January and now I use Wegovy. I have not been a super responder, and I am losing slowly. My endocrinologist is very happy (she says it is better than losing quickly, for my body and for lose skin). This enables my body to reset its set weight and balance my metabolism again. With regards to the health concerns, I discussed it with my doctor, a dietician and an endocrinologist (who now follows me) for 6 months before I started this treatment. The health risks of being obese far outweigh the possible risks of these injections, and we are tackling the issues now so that when I do come off the medication, I have a good idea about nutrition, how to maintain etc etc.

The common misconception is that people expect this injection to make the fat simply disappear easily and quickly. I see a lot of people posting on social media 'I've only lost 1 lb this week. I am paying good money and expect more!' 🤦‍♀️

It doesn't do this! You still have to do all the hard work. You have to balance your diet, learn what's what. You have to work hard at it.

With meal replacements, WW, SW ETC you are not learning, you are mostly replacing food with fake food stuffs.

UPF is the villain that needs to be tackled here, IMO. I would encourage you and your DD to read Ultra Processed People and The Glucose goddess. The obesity code and why we eat too much are other great informative reads. You can also listen to them on audible, I believe. Cook real food. Once she has learnt about this, she can change her eating habits and then look at starting the injections.

Taking the injections and not making any great changes to her lifestyle won't help her in the long run and she will just put the weight back on when she stops. But they are brilliant at helping you maintain newly implemented habits. I had a terrible Coke Zero addiction. I haven't touched a drop in over a year now. I also gave up alcohol very easily and now will happily have a glass, on special occasions, but no more. My blood sugar was all over the place and I shook a lot. Gone. This didn't happen with WW or SW as they were still encouraging me to have a bar or a meal replacement, none of which is real food. (Which I why I wouldn't encourage her to do these plans. They are BS and create bad habits/yo-yo dieting.) As an ex smoker, I know that I will always be saying no to these things, but that's all down to mental strength. But they did help a lot in breaking the habit!

I understand her anxiety about exercise. I feel the same. But only now that I have lost some weight am I willing to start exercising. Slowly slowly. But I know that losing weight doesn't equal healthy and I have made myself targets and goals to aim for.

Shred the weight first, and then tackle the health and exercise, because they are too different things altogether.

Finally, don't shut the conversation down. She is 19 and an adult, but she is also only 19 and she has come to you to discuss it. Also, please do not buy cheaper versions. These are unregulated and potentially very dangerous!

There is an injectables board, where you will get more information from people using the medication rather than people whose neighbours cousin met someone in a supermarket whose head caved in due to these injections etc etc.

Sorry, but its insane your young daughter wants to inject herself with chemicals because she is too "anxious" to exercise. I'd not encourage this at all, get her to do some healthy eating and so some exercise and set a good example for her. This attitude of a quick fix at such a young age should be concerning

We don't know the long term impacts of these drugs, so I would be also be wary for someone young and healthy.

Id be encouraging more conventional weight loss routes.

Has she tried diet and exercise??!

From personal experience I would most importantly check if she has any allergies to the ingredients. I have zero allergies and I started my injection 4 months ago. After a few days of the first injection I wasn’t able to walk properly my knees gave way I didn’t understand I thought perhaps I’ve been sleeping wrong. Long story short I ended up bed bound for 1 month as the injection attacked every joint in my body. I was in and out of hospital, on oxygen then inhaler, antihistamines every 4hrs as my throat would close, my whole body had red lumps and I mean everywhere even my face. And that was just from one 10 second stab of the injection. Managed to walk unaided after 2 months. Still to this day doctors have not been able to tell me what ingredient or chemical in the injection I was allergic to.
on a positive note it seems to work for everybody else, just the usual nausea and faint feeling is common which shouldn’t be a problem.

Don't pay for it then. She's working if she wants it she pays for it, then she takes responsibility for making sure she exercises and keeps the weight off if she's the one having to pay for it.

Toying with the idea myself

Exactly...so that poster is STILL talking bollocks...

She needs to drink loads of water and exercise after or they won't work
Lemon bottle is good let her get them nothing wrong with it

It definitely sounds a very good idea to discuss with her GP to check if it would be advisable with her history of eating disorder and ADHD.

Because don't you know? All fat people are lazy gluttonous masses who deserve nothing and they have to slave away to lose every single pound through misery!!

It’s odd - being obese is so bad for long term health. Not only heart health - massively increased risk of cancer, if dementia… but when drugs come along that help people lose weight, everyone Pooh poohs them!

I had a bmi of 31, been on an injection (wegovy) for a while. Losing 2lb a week steadily, it’s helping me a huge amount. I’m learning how to eat well again. I’m also decreasing my risk of cancer and practically every other disease. With not one single side effect

If she is about to start adhd medicine I would hold off, I lost a lot of weight when I was on it due to just losing my appetite and I’m not sure how that would work in combo with the injections?

@VoyOySaveloy I disagree with that. The way MJ has worked for me is that the injection has totally changed the foods I crave. That’s clearly a reaction to a change happening within my body. I could have continued eating junk, but the injection has worked for me by genuinely changing my cravings.

For example, I no longer crave processed sugars or excess salt. I wake up genuinely wanting fresh foods and things like oats. On SW and WW, I could never control the cravings for crap. Even allowing myself a few ‘syns’ or points wasn’t enough. I’d still binge. MJ has totally changed my life in that for the first time since I was about 13, I no longer have that desire.

@Thegreatgiginthesky of course, and I do intend on it. But your comment overstates it

Me too @Olika. But I think injectables are a perfectly good tool and people are strangely down on them.

Fair enough. I think the more overweight you are the greater the case for using these drugs. I don't think the OPs daughter was in quite the same situation though and I also think everyone using them should still try to maintain muscle as best they can through exercise and adequate protein ingestion.