Dd wants to get fat loss injection

Too many so called " Specialists" on here.
I spoke to my GP and diabetic nurse before l started ( I'm type two) even if you're not diabetic I'd speak to your GP.
I'm 3 weeks in and lost a stone .
My energy is better. I'm sleeping better and no side effects .
But everyone is different.

Yes the point about UPF is a good one but at the end of the day, obesity is an epidemic and these medications work. It doesn't have to be the absolute best way, the fact they work at all is great.

@NeedSomeAnswersPlease im not certain it’s the best way because we don’t yet know the reasons for obesity other than the catch all ‘you’re eating too much’. We need to understand why some people are eating too much or even not to excess but gain weight more easily than others.
There is a school of thought that ultra processed foods switch off the feeling full button in the brain so people eat to excess because they genuinely feel hungry - not because they are greedy. Could this contribute to T2 diabetes?
I am T2, not overweight and exercise daily. I was on the injections because after about 10 years of the disease, sufferers stop producing the feel full hormone. I controlled my eating, because I had to, but I constantly felt hungry and thought about food.
Unfortunately I can no longer get the injections due to supply issues. I have a daily tablet replacement but it’s less convenient.
I think cutting out upf as far as possible is a good way to eat but the injections can support people whilst making those lifestyle changes.

The online GPs associated with the company I use for my weight loss medication will not prescribe it to anyone with a BMI of under 30, that's not to say some people don't lie, but the company I use ask for a photo on the scales with a proof of date, along with another full length & side photos

It's a drastic measure which might well be medically justified, but it's important to speak to a medical professional, preferably your GP, who can look at the complete picture of your health and any possible side effects which might affect you in particular.

Pre-existing conditions or family histories of certain illnesses, drug interactions, certain supplements can cause nasty side effects and reduce the efficacy of the injections.

It also doesn't work without lifestyle changes, and it's expensive.

That said, it's a very powerful treatment for obesity, and can increase life expectancy.

Why are you not certain when they're clinically proven?

I think it’s good she wants to try and improve her health.

GLP1 meds have been well studied.

It Is expensive and she’s need to be able to commit to it each month.

Honestly the way some people bang on you’d think people were injecting straight up deadly poison on to them.

If you actually look in to the research papers it has shown promising benefits for a number of things.

I’ve said before that obesity is a complex condition. I’m not certain that the injections are the best way to treat obesity but it is one way. IF the weight increases after the injections stop then it’s no different to most diets.
I think the best thing to do alongside injections is to massively reduce ultra processed foods and hopefully stick to that when the injections stop.
Definitely be very wary about buying online as there are fake injections. As ever, always some scumbag after easy money at anyone else’s expense.

It's £200 every 4 weeks

It is priced per month not per week

It's a good idea. "Just" obese is unhealthy and we should stop dissuading young people to lose weight.

Pulled out of her arse, I would expect.

Source for this?

If there are people who aren't obese taking them, that's one thing.

But as someone who borders on morbidly obese who is about to start a course of them, I can say on behalf of everyone using them that your judgment is not needed

Where are you getting your stats from that most people getting private prescriptions are not obese?

It's easy for those who have never struggled with their weight to weigh in (pardon the pun). Please leave it to those who have experienced it

Given most of those on these injections are not obese, and they are not ‘struggling’ with their weight, and getting online prescriptions, how are those taking these injections ‘experienced’ in gaining weight?

@linsey2581 again, these medications are not a quick fix. You do not wake up ten stone lighter overnight.

Mounjaro is not prescribed for use in people with T1 diabetes. Judging people for taking control of their own health is shameful

I have and still am experiencing with my weight over the past maybe 7-8 years. I’ve been down the route of trying to do quick fixes like tablets shakes all that crap. Im now cutting out all the crap food cooking properly and I’ve been doing park run for over a year. I’m definitely not at my target weight but slowly getting there.

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/about-us/news-and-views/our-response-serious-supply-issues-drugs-people-living-type-2-diabetes

Here is the correct info on these injections from Diabetes UK. The global shortage of Ozempic is now being managed, and a separate brand (Wegovy) is available for weight loss.

Also, these injections are NOT £200 per week, they are around £150 - £200 per month.

I pay for it for my Daughter.
She is obese. Has tried to lose weight.
Has various health issues. Was diagnosed with type2 diabetes.

The GP and diabetic nurse both agreed to supply weight loss injections but her health authority is not a tier 3 prescriber so she could not have it.

I agreed to pay for it and she has a private pharmacist that prescribed it to her and offers a good coaching program.

She has lost 50 lbs so far and is much happier. Her health is improving.

This is not true and it is not a quick fix.

It's easy for those who have never struggled with their weight to weigh in (pardon the pun). Please leave it to those who have experienced it

Tell her that because of people like her who want injections as a quick fix to lose weight, there are people with T1 diabetes that are struggling to get their medication to keep them alive

This is sadly true. They pharmacists have to save a number of these for those who need it and those going in with there £200 a week private prescriptions, many who aren’t obese and have lied to obtain the prescriptions are kicking up merry hell.

The private doctors will offer expensive treatments and you’ll find your GP won’t fill them in the NHS (and quite frankly why should they?)

All about the money.

OP why don’t YOU and your DD work together? Go for a walk? Cook fresh food? Get rid of the snacks in the house.

Don’t be a bystander and help her help herself.

I would suggest she pay her way or at least as much as she can afford to with you then topping it up. The medication is a tool, not a miracle, it will help curb appetite so she can try and make better food choices. The financial commitment would help with motivation to do this.

I have lost 6 stone since November on Wegovy from Boots online doctor. They have great resources about nutrition, exercise, the psychology around weight loss and have weekly seminars on these topics too. They’re also on hand to help advise on side effects etc too.

Wishing your DD all the best with her weight loss journey, whatever route she takes.

Haven't rft but have you at least googled the side effects?
I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, there are plenty of reasons in your dd's individual circs to make it a very unwuse chouce. Glad to see you've made her a GP appointment, best decision by you. Obviously s/he will tell her in no uncertain terms the risks for her, and refer for other weight loss support, ideally.

It’s quite hard to exercise when you’re obese, and it’s reported the injections help with any addiction so it will help her quit vaping. Given her young age she’ll probably suffer minimal side effects. Both my mother and a good friend have managed to get down to a normal weight and quit smoking on the jabs, so I’d personally be supporting my child in this endeavour if she was 20 and obese.

@letsjustdothis

Big risk of thyroid cancer, doesn't actually teach you to eat better, put the weight back on when you stop.
Nope.
Small risk. Smaller than the risks of all the associated diseases relating to being obese.

Bet you are scared of HRT and the MMR too 🙄