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AIBU - not inviting everyone to the leaving do is a dick move

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Packingcubesqueen · 06/08/2024 15:19

I work in a school. One of the other teachers is leaving. They have invited a group of people to their leaving do and left a few out. The people who have been invited are various ages and job positions (SLT, TAs, Teachers etc) she has basically just excluded a few people she doesn’t like (including me). I have never had any conflict with this person, there is no back story that I know of. I am often excluded from things but never with so many others being included. Usually about half of us aren’t invited. We are also having a lunch on her last day, that is for everyone. She didn’t organise the lunch.
YABU - it’s her leaving do she can invite who she likes
YANBU - it’s a dick move

OP posts:
Moveoverdarlin · 06/08/2024 16:42

Packingcubesqueen · 06/08/2024 15:25

Not more closely no. Just people she likes.

Isn’t that a really obvious, normal thing to do??? If she’s having a leaving do why would she invite people she DOESN’T like? Surely that’s two faced?

BeckiWithAnI · 06/08/2024 16:39

kimchi81 · 06/08/2024 16:25

please say the grievance was totally dismissed

Yes- that one was, thankfully. She did end up dragging a few people into the world’s most pointless mediation sessions, where said Tea was brought up again. I can’t remember if that was part of the Tea grievance or one of the others she raised for equally pointless things that could have just been solved with a conversation like an adult.
A total PITA.

Wanttobefree2 · 06/08/2024 16:39

Packingcubesqueen · 06/08/2024 15:19

I work in a school. One of the other teachers is leaving. They have invited a group of people to their leaving do and left a few out. The people who have been invited are various ages and job positions (SLT, TAs, Teachers etc) she has basically just excluded a few people she doesn’t like (including me). I have never had any conflict with this person, there is no back story that I know of. I am often excluded from things but never with so many others being included. Usually about half of us aren’t invited. We are also having a lunch on her last day, that is for everyone. She didn’t organise the lunch.
YABU - it’s her leaving do she can invite who she likes
YANBU - it’s a dick move

I agree with you, I think it’s mean and unnecessary if she has invited eveyone but a few people. Some women are just like that, but I don’t know why!! Remember, it says more about them than you…

Tiredofallthis101 · 06/08/2024 16:38

I think it's unpleasant personally if it is a large group. I'd invite everyone. People you don't like probably won't come and if they do you can just not spend much time with them, especially if there's quite a few of you. I don't understand posters that say this is OK. If she'd invited say 45/50 people in the team that's quite different to 3/8 say, so I do think the size of group here matters, but ultimately I'd invite everyone anyway.

AngelinaFibres · 06/08/2024 16:34

She's a work colleague. None of these people are anything more than people you see because the governing body and headteacher chose you all as the best option for a particular role. Enjoy the fact that you don't have to go to yet another school thing in your own time . You will never see her again and I dare say neither will any of the people she has invited to this extra off-site do.

Dweetfidilove · 06/08/2024 16:32

No-one likes everyone and you don't need to be somewhere you're not liked/wanted.

Dora33 · 06/08/2024 16:30

It makes sense she is only going to invite her friends or people she likes to her leaving drinks.
But that doesn't take away hurt in realising that you are 1 of few that she has left out. Especially as you work in the same department, to know that she doesn't want you at her leaving drinks.

This happened to me when a person I worked with, invited everyone in the department except me and another person to an event, they were hosting.

The other person not invited, had always kept themselves separate from everyone. Based on previous invites, wouldn't have even gone.
I felt quite awkward and hurt to suddenly realise that this person didn't see me as a friend. I worked the closest with the person and everyone knew I was the only other person not invited.
We had all gone out numerous times over the years as a group. I had even had meals out with this person
I decided to smile and wish them the best of luck with their event and afterwards, say I hope it went well.

BadNeighbour101 · 06/08/2024 16:29

Elisheva · 06/08/2024 16:27

It’s been established that omitting just a few people from social events is considered to be work place bullying. If she was inviting a selection of friends/just her department then it’s fine, but inviting the majority is not on.
I’m not sure what you would like to do about it. It is the responsibility of management to make sure that their employees are not bullied. It speaks badly to the culture of the school that it hasn’t been called out.

what do you want management to do? It's a leaving do. It's better for everyone to let this go and move on.

Topofthemountain · 06/08/2024 16:28

I don't drink tea or coffee, I always tell new starters so they don't read anything into someone else not asking me.

However back to the OP, yanbu, but on the bright side she's leaving. Some of the responses on here are shocking though, verging on bullying.

ChubSeedsYorkie · 06/08/2024 16:28

I agree with you but every place I’ve worked all colleagues have always been invited to leaving dos.

Elisheva · 06/08/2024 16:27

It’s been established that omitting just a few people from social events is considered to be work place bullying. If she was inviting a selection of friends/just her department then it’s fine, but inviting the majority is not on.
I’m not sure what you would like to do about it. It is the responsibility of management to make sure that their employees are not bullied. It speaks badly to the culture of the school that it hasn’t been called out.

Winky2024 · 06/08/2024 16:26

Why do you care so much? She’s leaving!!

LlynTegid · 06/08/2024 16:25

If it is out of hours and off-site, then it is her choice. Just as you can think it a bad choice though.

kimchi81 · 06/08/2024 16:25

BeckiWithAnI · 06/08/2024 16:22

Nope, not a school. It was someone who came in later than the rest of the team and the teas were made before they even arrived. It’s also the kind of environment you can get up and make a tea at any time, so it’s not like they went without. They just had to make their own when they arrived.
This person was unfortunately someone who was always out for office spats.

please say the grievance was totally dismissed

BeckiWithAnI · 06/08/2024 16:22

kimchi81 · 06/08/2024 16:16

these tea rounds were during school hours
on school site
correct?

Nope, not a school. It was someone who came in later than the rest of the team and the teas were made before they even arrived. It’s also the kind of environment you can get up and make a tea at any time, so it’s not like they went without. They just had to make their own when they arrived.
This person was unfortunately someone who was always out for office spats.

Packingcubesqueen · 06/08/2024 16:22

I don’t think my friend was stirring the conversation went something like-
friend- are you going to the night out?
me - no I didn’t even know there was one, is it on email?
Friend - erm I think it was a WhatsApp, maybe they forgot to add you
Me- who else is going?
friend - (awkwardly) while looking at the group - ‘pretty much everyone’.
Me - Even x and y?
Friend - yeah, sorry… I’d go out with you instead though.

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Jellybeanbag · 06/08/2024 16:21

If she left a few out, it is a dick move. Its immature and nasty if only a few are left out. I certainly wouldn't be going to her leaving do.

How did you find out about it?

kimchi81 · 06/08/2024 16:16

BeckiWithAnI · 06/08/2024 16:15

I had someone raise a grievance because they were missed out on tea rounds. Although I did want to roll my eyes, it can be seen as bullying (being missed out on tea rounds and eye rolling, actually!).
If she’d just invited her immediate team that would be fine, but opening invitations to wider colleagues but excluding others is a dick move.
I wouldn’t get upset by it though. It’s a reflection on her, not you. There are just some cultural things you have to do when you leave (provided you aren’t leaving under a cloud!) like the obligatory “thanks [insert manager’s name here] for all your support”, “I wish the team well” “yes, let’s invite everyone for a leaving drink (….even though I don’t know half of those people’s names)”. It’s just good etiquette in a professional capacity, particularly given how small some industries are.

Edited

these tea rounds were during school hours
on school site
correct?

BeckiWithAnI · 06/08/2024 16:15

I had someone raise a grievance because they were missed out on tea rounds. Although I did want to roll my eyes, it can be seen as bullying (being missed out on tea rounds and eye rolling, actually!).
If she’d just invited her immediate team that would be fine, but opening invitations to wider colleagues but excluding others is a dick move.
I wouldn’t get upset by it though. It’s a reflection on her, not you. There are just some cultural things you have to do when you leave (provided you aren’t leaving under a cloud!) like the obligatory “thanks [insert manager’s name here] for all your support”, “I wish the team well” “yes, let’s invite everyone for a leaving drink (….even though I don’t know half of those people’s names)”. It’s just good etiquette in a professional capacity, particularly given how small some industries are.

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 06/08/2024 16:13

I did the exact same, I went out for a drink with my actual work friends when I moved jobs. It’d be weird for her to invite people she didn’t like or didn’t have much to do with/in common with.
If you throw a party you invite your friends don’t you? You don’t invite every person you’ve ever said more than one word to

Iwasafool · 06/08/2024 16:10

Ivehearditbothways · 06/08/2024 16:00

Did you ever speak to her? Did she know about the night out and plan it herself? Or was it a surprise planned by the one who wanted to exclude you?

Maybe your friend didn’t know about it and had been told there would be a surprise thing, and maybe she thought you just couldn’t make it?

I was told by the person I shared an office with that the leaver invited people, she planned it. The one who decided she didn't like me was very manipulative and very quickly things got to the point where people didn't want to upset her, I assume they worried they'd be the next target. I worked there for 20 years, had always been popular but she made it unbearable. Fortunately I was due to retire the following year so I didn't have to put up with it for long. When I retired several people came to say goodbye and thanked me for things I'd done for them over the years. As I'd been there so long I was offered a big leaving do paid for by the company. I declined and told the one who organised that sort of thing that I knew certain people would be included and she agreed it would be awkward.

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/08/2024 16:09

You don’t even know for sure how many people are or aren’t invited. It’s just your so call friend stirring the pot, I’d be much more annoyed with her. Why did she feel the need to tell you anything about an event which you aren’t invited to?

Cattenberg · 06/08/2024 16:08

Iwasafool · 06/08/2024 16:03

I'm not sure that is true with work things. If you invite virtually everyone and leave one out it isn't appropriate and can be viewed as bullying. Different if you invite your close colleagues and leave the rest out but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

This

Packingcubesqueen · 06/08/2024 16:06

kimchi81 · 06/08/2024 16:02

And she, presumably, is part of this group

She goes out with them but isn’t a ring leader. But yes I get your point.
It feels mean but she owes me nothing. It isn’t what I would do. But it seems like it’s completely within normal social/professional behaviour. I felt it was outside of the norm compared to places I’ve worked before but maybe I’ve been in unusually inclusive places previously.

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Maddy70 · 06/08/2024 16:06

Shes invited her friends on her leaving do. Fair enough. Why would she invite people she doesnt like? She doesnt have to see them ever again