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Ginge88 · 06/08/2024 09:48

If I forget something or use the wrong plug or something, DH says loudly

"And the 356th way Ginge has fucked up today is...."

Or whatever number is in his head. Frustrating thing is I actually don't mess up things v much and it's him that needs reminders of everything

But yes if he notices says the milk is left out or something il hear him say "and Ginge succeeds in fucking up for the 455th time this week" and chuckling to himself

I've told him to stop. He tells me it's a joke. He does now do it less but he clearly thinks I'm being totally over sensitive

Am I?

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DearDenimEagle · 01/09/2024 18:41

CrochetForLife · 01/09/2024 15:00

OP, what does your mum know about this? Does she know you are trapped in an abusive marriage? Can you confide in her? Can you go stay with her even for a week? I re-post something I said earlier to someone else on another thread:

"OP, every poster on here who is mistreated by their husband says the same thing. 'oh the kids adore him!', 'oh the kids will HATE ME if I leave him'. Please don't gaslight yourself. Kids will still adore both parents whether living with them full time or not. And many of us will attest that kids will appreciate seeing their mother happier. Happy mummy, happier life. Staying 'for the sake of the children' never, and I mean NEVER works. Kids know when something is up. You owe it to yourself to be happy so you can be an effective mother. Please leave. At least pack your bags and go stay with your parents (or relative) for a few days - 'give him a scare'. See what he says then when he comes back home and sees you've left him, and he has to explain to his mummy. Time for ULTIMATUM."

When you leave it has to be for good. This guy won’t behave because he had a scare. If he thinks he’s losing control he will get angry . You won’t like him when he’s angry …and I mean angry. You can’t let him know you are thinking of leaving until you are safely out for good.
I am serious. These guys can be dangerous.
Nothing wrong with saying you’re going to visit mother for a few days, but don’t use it as a threat of permanence depending on his behaving better.
it might seem impossible but your children need protecting from this. Their view of women and marriage is being created, the longer it goes on.

CrochetForLife · 01/09/2024 15:00

OP, what does your mum know about this? Does she know you are trapped in an abusive marriage? Can you confide in her? Can you go stay with her even for a week? I re-post something I said earlier to someone else on another thread:

"OP, every poster on here who is mistreated by their husband says the same thing. 'oh the kids adore him!', 'oh the kids will HATE ME if I leave him'. Please don't gaslight yourself. Kids will still adore both parents whether living with them full time or not. And many of us will attest that kids will appreciate seeing their mother happier. Happy mummy, happier life. Staying 'for the sake of the children' never, and I mean NEVER works. Kids know when something is up. You owe it to yourself to be happy so you can be an effective mother. Please leave. At least pack your bags and go stay with your parents (or relative) for a few days - 'give him a scare'. See what he says then when he comes back home and sees you've left him, and he has to explain to his mummy. Time for ULTIMATUM."

AutumnFroglets · 01/09/2024 14:53

I do worry when we split the two boys will end up with him somehow
He won't want them. He will fight for 50/50 but only so he won't have to pay cms or to mess with your head, but he won't want to do the school runs, or clean the uniforms or to do bathtime. The drudgery will soon turn him off.

I'm trying really hard to plan leaving but it's so hard.
Get a notebook and start writing things down. Make a list of what you need to do. Hide it somewhere he doesn't go, maybe with the hoover or amongst the decorating sheets or under the mattress your side. Don't start on the first five pages (maybe make a list of decorating projects or boring things on those so if he sees it he puts it back). Seeing things in black and white (and crossed off) is helpful imo.

You don't have to find your anger, I never did. I did start to find him ridiculously stupid and I ended up internally laughing at him like pp. I also made bets with myself as to what he would say over any given flash point, ie you bought wonky carrots (due to them being cheaper), so start thinking how you think he might react. When he reacts exactly how you thought you tend to giggle inside. This takes away his power and your fear. Try it next time.

Fannyfiggs · 01/09/2024 14:28

Oh Ginge, love. He's an absolute bell end!!

Tell him to shut the fuck up or you'll stick the wonky carrots up his arse.

So many people will be affected by this if you stay. Imagine your beautiful sons treating their future partners like this, their children seeing this thinking it's normal.

But please, do this for yourself, be strong and leave this sorry excuse for a man. Imagine the peace when you don't have to listen to the drivel he spouts or feel him in bed next to you.

Ginge88 · 01/09/2024 14:16

YouCanKeepHimJolene · 01/09/2024 14:10

I used to live with someone who got angry over stupid shit and I grey-rocked their shit but I learnt to have a silent chuckle to myself 'you are angry at a carrot you twat, imagine getting that worked up over a wonky carrot'. This sort of helped to rebalance how those times would affect me until I was able to escape. It was water off a duck's back at the end, I had not an ounce of respect left after the ridiculousness of him. I hope you are able to get away from him soon.

Yes, I don't feel anger but I know one thing for certain and that is I don't have an ounce of respect for him either as you say. I need to get better at grey rock.

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Ginge88 · 01/09/2024 14:14

I wish I had my anger as they say. I don't feel anger at him. Pity, resentment, but the feeling of guilt is the most overwhelming feeling. So many people will be negatively affected. And he is going to lose his mind. Sorry to keep rambling on. I'm usually quite tough or I thought I was but it feels a bit impossible. I'm scared of him as an ex husband.

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YouCanKeepHimJolene · 01/09/2024 14:10

I used to live with someone who got angry over stupid shit and I grey-rocked their shit but I learnt to have a silent chuckle to myself 'you are angry at a carrot you twat, imagine getting that worked up over a wonky carrot'. This sort of helped to rebalance how those times would affect me until I was able to escape. It was water off a duck's back at the end, I had not an ounce of respect left after the ridiculousness of him. I hope you are able to get away from him soon.

Ginge88 · 01/09/2024 13:53

He just started ranting at me about the fact I'd bought wonky carrots. Saying "I thought we'd had this conversation, I thought you understood, they are a stupid ridiculous affectation, I can't believe you bought these again" again and again. Me and the kids were watching a film and he wss just going and going. Now he's so grumpy.

I'm trying really hard to plan leaving but it's so hard. Him and the kids are just here all the time. I can't wait for school next week.

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PinotPony · 01/09/2024 13:53

Ginge88 · 31/08/2024 20:50

Also he winds the kids up so much. I thought it was fun play fighting but he can be so OTT with them, calling them "poo head", (which they are now repeating in public as loudly as they can) pretending to throw them in the bin/fight, and then theyrr totally crazy and he just disappears and now I've been doing bedtime alone for 90 mins with two v hyper small kids. Doing bedtime tonight compared to the last week is so different. Tonight I'm doing bedtime, tidying up, and cooking dinner. He's playing video games. He even made a joke about me "making him a lovely return dinner". He's blatantly going to try and have sex tonight. I will say no. But it will be grim.

I do worry when we split the two boys will end up with him somehow. He okays video games, he buys them toy guns, sweets, he says stupid stuff all the time, and he slags me off to them! I'm v boring in comparison.

He might be the "Disney dad" who buys sweets and lets them stay up late but that'll soon wear off. When he actually has to parent them, you won't be there to do it for him, to calm the waters.

The kids will quickly realise that Dad is a short tempered arsehole with no patience. And they'll come to appreciate reliable, calm, loving Mum.

Toastghost · 31/08/2024 21:49

What a bastard. The only positive thing that comes to mind reading your posts is that often people who behave horribly feel like shit because of it, let’s hope that’s true in his case.

I do not have your patience.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 31/08/2024 20:53

“…and the billionth time twatfeatures has made that same laboured shitty comment”

Ginge88 · 31/08/2024 20:50

Also he winds the kids up so much. I thought it was fun play fighting but he can be so OTT with them, calling them "poo head", (which they are now repeating in public as loudly as they can) pretending to throw them in the bin/fight, and then theyrr totally crazy and he just disappears and now I've been doing bedtime alone for 90 mins with two v hyper small kids. Doing bedtime tonight compared to the last week is so different. Tonight I'm doing bedtime, tidying up, and cooking dinner. He's playing video games. He even made a joke about me "making him a lovely return dinner". He's blatantly going to try and have sex tonight. I will say no. But it will be grim.

I do worry when we split the two boys will end up with him somehow. He okays video games, he buys them toy guns, sweets, he says stupid stuff all the time, and he slags me off to them! I'm v boring in comparison.

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Arconialiving · 31/08/2024 15:15

LoggedOutAgain · 31/08/2024 14:46

I have read all your posts OP and I’m absolutely horrified that you are stuck with this monster. You sound so rational and reasonable in the face of such deep provocation. I really hope you manage to get away and I hope that he will realise he’s a shit parent and leave you to it for a while. What a sad little man.

Couldn't agree more! You are very strong Op.

Would you consider telling your manager or HR? It would be good if you could, to get their support especially if you need time off at short notice or extra flexibility with your workload / hours etc.

Good luck!

Gollumm · 31/08/2024 14:54

Ignore my first comment, I've now read all your comments. I'm so sorry you're living with such a horrible bastard. Don't doubt yourself, leaving him is the best decision despite worries you may have about sharing care of the kids. It's more important for them to have a happy mum, than to live with a man who belittles their mum constantly. You need to split for their sakes, so they don't learn his behaviour and think that's how you treat women. Do you have proof that you have been paying the mortgage by yourself? If you earn more than him could you afford to buy him out so you don't have to leave the kids home? It's a lot to think about and process but I truly believe you need to leave him as soon as you can. I'd even go so far as so create a case with the police and record all the abusive behaviour so that it's on file for when you come to splitting care of the kids.

LoggedOutAgain · 31/08/2024 14:46

I have read all your posts OP and I’m absolutely horrified that you are stuck with this monster. You sound so rational and reasonable in the face of such deep provocation. I really hope you manage to get away and I hope that he will realise he’s a shit parent and leave you to it for a while. What a sad little man.

Gollumm · 31/08/2024 14:36

Do it back to him. I'm sure he'll soon stop.

AgileGreenSeal · 31/08/2024 14:25

Re co-parenting - about clubs /activities- if they are exclusively on “your days” you don’t need his consent nor do you need to inform him. You need his agreement for things like which school to attend etc.
xx

AgileGreenSeal · 31/08/2024 14:21

Ginge88 · 31/08/2024 12:33

@AgileGreenSeal yes, the co-parenting set up is v scary to me. I am confident i have the resolve to deal with the horrible messages or whatever - i've dealt with some shitty men before (pattern? a me problem?) but i worry about the kids a lot. and also as you say - so much needs discussion - schools, clubs, etc - so many joint decisions.

i can see how co-parenting can work really well when both parents put kids first. but it feels impossible with someone whos bitterness & rage is more important than his own kids. he has shown me that to be true on many occasions now. so it wil only get worse i guess.

When they are all he has got to try to hurt you with then sadly he might well do that. Just try to fight each battle as it comes and get as much as possible written into the order as it is the only thing you can do.

I’m the mother of someone who has exactly this problem and everything literally everything had to be thrashed out in court in repeated sessions and right now he is breaking the order with seeming impunity. It’s mentally and financially exhausting because yet again he will have to be taken back to court.

Sorry don’t mean to hijack your thread. Best wishes, OP xxx
try not to let him steal all your joy.
These men are pathetic.

Ginge88 · 31/08/2024 12:33

@AgileGreenSeal yes, the co-parenting set up is v scary to me. I am confident i have the resolve to deal with the horrible messages or whatever - i've dealt with some shitty men before (pattern? a me problem?) but i worry about the kids a lot. and also as you say - so much needs discussion - schools, clubs, etc - so many joint decisions.

i can see how co-parenting can work really well when both parents put kids first. but it feels impossible with someone whos bitterness & rage is more important than his own kids. he has shown me that to be true on many occasions now. so it wil only get worse i guess.

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AutumnFroglets · 31/08/2024 12:13

I wholeheartedly agree with pp. You felt good that week because he wasn't there. You were allowed to be you, the real you, and I bet that felt amazing. You could feel that way 24/7 for the rest of your life.

he just said "ah - you're prioritising that over family time on the last weekend of the summer then I guess?"
Look up DAVRO. Abusive, manipulative people use this technique to attack and confuse their victim.

Please start planning to leave before he breaks you too much.

RaspberryBeretxx · 31/08/2024 12:11

Well done for seeing it all so clearly. I think keep taking steps to get out. Can you go part time temporarily in your job then back up to full if needed later on? I’d look at all options in terms of what would be best when you split.

In the meantime, see friends, take the kids out by yourself, dream of the future and do whatever you can to boost your confidence and remember whatever he says is just him trying to tear you down. It’s in no way an accurate reflection of reality! You’re a capable and loving mother and woman and you’ve got this.

AgileGreenSeal · 31/08/2024 12:05

Ginge88 · 31/08/2024 11:35

The audacity of him! He organised a trip away with his guy mates for the whole week which meant I needed to take the week off work to be at home with kids. I just told him I was seeing a friend for coffee this afternoon for a couple of hours and he just said "ah - you're prioritising that over family time on the last weekend of the summer then I guess?"

What??? He's been on the piss for 5 days! I've been at home with the kids. Is he actually deluded???

Thanks for being understanding everyone. The kids are pleased to have him back but we got on fine without him. Co parenting with him is going to be so painful though.

Coparenting with a nasty person is really hideous- they use the kids to get at you- not returning favourite clothes, forgetting / refusing to administer meds etc.

I would suggest that all communication regarding the children be kept to one email account set aside for that purpose. Do not engage in any other discussion.

If you go to court to arrange the times when they will be with him/ with you/ where they will mostly live etc then you can get the drop off/ pick up arrangements written into the order. Same with arrangements for holidays / Christmas or anything you feel will be important down the line.

Send a “handover” email every time he picks them up with any info he needs to know about them. Expect the same from him, but don’t be surprised if he doesn’t bother.

Best wishes, and be prepared to have to go back to court if he decides to act unilaterally. xx

daisychain01 · 31/08/2024 11:49

I'm seriously thinking I need to work out away to step back from my career. I've always been ambitious but the boys are with him a fair bit without me and they always talk about missing me and they cling to me.

do think very long and hard before deciding to step back from your career. You will need it even more to ensure you have independence, and don't underestimate the self esteem that can be gained from being in a job, where you are valued for your contributions and getting paid for it! It gives you freedom. Your children will rise to the occasion and adapt to the fact you have to work. They will mature very quickly, as children do when confronted with a 'grown-up' situation like this.

daisychain01 · 31/08/2024 11:39

he does make me feel small a lot of the time. he is deeply insecure about everything so i don't feel anger towards him really

he sounds insufferable and passive aggressive. I wouldn't be able to stand that earache for the rest of my life.

notacooldad · 31/08/2024 11:37

Funny is once when you both can roll your eyes and laugh.
Carrying it on especially after you've asked him to stop is rude and disrespectful.