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sunglassesonthetable · 06/08/2024 11:50

LoremIpsumCici · 06/08/2024 11:47

Btw, it’s been £250k raised since 2017 as of 2023 (last years event).

Anyone succumbed to the High Risks yet?

llamajohn · 06/08/2024 11:50

MogTheMoogle · 06/08/2024 07:58

It looks like they are not running normal sessions...only dog ones.

I assume then it's a little way of keeping it popular, in possibly an otherwise quiet month.

As its only dogs, I presume it coincides with a drain and/or big scrub at the end of the month.

I'm not thrilled with the idea of swimming in a pool alongside multiple dogs, or getting into one after hundreds across a weekend has got in. But if it's been completely cleaned ready for when they reopen for humans, it can't be any dirtier that whatever anyone else has got in.

People are in there as well as dogs.

One lido round her does it for the last ever session, dogs only, then it drained for the winter.

OP posts:
Astrabees · 06/08/2024 11:49

I saw this and can’t wait for the opportunity to swim with our next dog in 2025. It is clearly very popular and not inconveniencing anyone who doesn’t want to go.

LoremIpsumCici · 06/08/2024 11:47

Btw, it’s been £250k raised since 2017 as of 2023 (last years event).

sunglassesonthetable · 06/08/2024 11:43

LoremIpsumCici · 06/08/2024 11:35

50 dogs running off the lead around a lido in an enclosed space - nothing low risk about it. It’s a money grab that is intended to go for as long as they are lucky.

Do write to the council. So many flagrant breaches.

K0OLA1D · 06/08/2024 11:41

LoremIpsumCici · 06/08/2024 11:35

50 dogs running off the lead around a lido in an enclosed space - nothing low risk about it. It’s a money grab that is intended to go for as long as they are lucky.

They'll be swimming. Not running.

LoremIpsumCici · 06/08/2024 11:39

Hobbes8 · 06/08/2024 11:32

This is such a bad faith thread. Continual vague references to health and safety, ignoring the multiple posters pointing out the deep clean. Now referring to an all male directors (which is irrelevant) and ignoring the female director. Insisting the lido could make £250K from fucking kayak lessons? I call bullshit.

I live in Saltdean, I swam in the lido yesterday, I have dogs, I don’t go to the dog swim because I don’t fancy it….see how easy that is?

  • I listed the specific health risks upthread with link for reference
  • The deep clean after four weeks of human owners swimming with dogs doesn’t do anything to prevent these health risks to those humans then
  • I originally said mostly male, which was 100% correct and made an self admitted error when wrongly called out for making it up, when it is true and only because I was called “cute” for having a different opinion from the esteemed managers
  • I have not said that the lido could make £250k from kayak lessons- that is bullshit twisting of my actual suggestion
sunglassesonthetable · 06/08/2024 11:37

LoremIpsumCici · 06/08/2024 11:26

Ah, well presumption is a step up from assumption.
This is a forum for expressing opinions. You are assuming it’s a great idea. I am presuming it is a risky idea that puts money ahead of health & safety. Nothing I have read has convinced me otherwise.

We have replicated all sorts of wildly popular but very bad ideas.
Humans are known for this as a particular talent of ours.
Currently you can find a few thousand new ones on TikTok which kill off a few people each week.

Presuming you don't run a Lido then.

But I'm sure you'll be looking out for Dog Swim casualties when they occur. Do post when they do. Hopefully they won't be killing off a few people at every event.

Thank goodness for chlorine and draining and cleaning eh.

And all this, including wading through the Lido management details etc because some on the internet took the mick out of your kayak classes idea.

Peonies12 · 06/08/2024 11:36

maybe read it properly? It’s only at the end of season, and surely then pool gets drained and cleaned. Honestly I despair people’s stupidity

LoremIpsumCici · 06/08/2024 11:35

sunglassesonthetable · 06/08/2024 11:23

Bags of money in exchange for low risk is a great deal.

50 dogs running off the lead around a lido in an enclosed space - nothing low risk about it. It’s a money grab that is intended to go for as long as they are lucky.

K0OLA1D · 06/08/2024 11:34

Hobbes8 · 06/08/2024 11:32

This is such a bad faith thread. Continual vague references to health and safety, ignoring the multiple posters pointing out the deep clean. Now referring to an all male directors (which is irrelevant) and ignoring the female director. Insisting the lido could make £250K from fucking kayak lessons? I call bullshit.

I live in Saltdean, I swam in the lido yesterday, I have dogs, I don’t go to the dog swim because I don’t fancy it….see how easy that is?

Crazy! So the lido owners don't actually make local residents with dogs march through the streets at gunpoint to take part! Who'd a thunk it

LilBowWow · 06/08/2024 11:32

The reach was you assuming the previous op was sexist and didn’t want you to worry your pretty little head because you’re unable to fathom that the owners of the business might know a little more about it than you do.

Hobbes8 · 06/08/2024 11:32

This is such a bad faith thread. Continual vague references to health and safety, ignoring the multiple posters pointing out the deep clean. Now referring to an all male directors (which is irrelevant) and ignoring the female director. Insisting the lido could make £250K from fucking kayak lessons? I call bullshit.

I live in Saltdean, I swam in the lido yesterday, I have dogs, I don’t go to the dog swim because I don’t fancy it….see how easy that is?

LoremIpsumCici · 06/08/2024 11:31

sunglassesonthetable · 06/08/2024 11:22

@LoremIpsumCici

Ah Health and Safety expert too.

You definitely don’t manage any kind of facility then. H&S is baked in with RAMS.

LoremIpsumCici · 06/08/2024 11:29

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 06/08/2024 11:28

No. Dogs are not 'people'.
Same as dogs are not children and don't need to be compared to them in every thread that isn't pro dog.

(Haven't read the full thread so no idea if someone has made the old faithful "I'd rather share with dogs than kids!" comment, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have!).

Yes that has been said…

LoremIpsumCici · 06/08/2024 11:28

BobVanceVanceRefridgeration · 06/08/2024 11:25

What happened to poor Pamela Shepherd? Didn't suit your '100% male' post?

What a random derail you seem to have created here!

Oops that was genuine oversight. When I initially wrote I did say mostly male so I had it right the first time. I haven’t created a derail the accusations of making up “mostly male” and being called ridiculous or massive stretch when I was right in the first place and then had to prove it is the derail, if you’d all checked and seem yep, they are mostly male and not mistakenly said I had made it up we wouldn’t have had a detail.

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 06/08/2024 11:28

NoisyDenimShaker · 06/08/2024 11:24

The dog weekends don't start until mid-September. (Sep 15.) The reason it runs for three weeks right then is because they want to catch the milder weather to make sure people come, because Dogtember is a really, really important month for the Lido, which is a charity. They raise more money from those few weekends than all the previous season's swimming, about 250k. If it got too cold, and rainy, the event would be less popular and they wouldn't get the same money.

It's almost as if they thought it all through!!!!

Plus, the doggies are people too and they deserve a nice swim and some doggie ice cream.

Edited

No. Dogs are not 'people'.
Same as dogs are not children and don't need to be compared to them in every thread that isn't pro dog.

(Haven't read the full thread so no idea if someone has made the old faithful "I'd rather share with dogs than kids!" comment, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have!).

Mercurial123 · 06/08/2024 11:28

The OP is stirring the pool does get drained, deep cleaned and a water change BUT some people just love to complain, especially when it involves dogs. Save your anger for the next dog thread it will be along in a day or two...

To think having dogs in Saltdean lido is utterly disgusting?
NoisyDenimShaker · 06/08/2024 11:27

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 06/08/2024 11:26

Well that sounds fucking rank 🤢

Why, if it takes place after the pool is closed for the season? And it's drained, cleaned, and refilled before the next season?

LoremIpsumCici · 06/08/2024 11:26

sunglassesonthetable · 06/08/2024 11:20

@LoremIpsumCici You're getting cuter with every reply.

I don't run a Lido but I don't presume an idea I see replicated across many of the same businesses is a poor one. And that without experience, my idea is obviously better. Like you do.

But then you haven't answered the question, so maybe you do run a Lido.

Ah, well presumption is a step up from assumption.
This is a forum for expressing opinions. You are assuming it’s a great idea. I am presuming it is a risky idea that puts money ahead of health & safety. Nothing I have read has convinced me otherwise.

We have replicated all sorts of wildly popular but very bad ideas.
Humans are known for this as a particular talent of ours.
Currently you can find a few thousand new ones on TikTok which kill off a few people each week.

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 06/08/2024 11:26

Well that sounds fucking rank 🤢

BobVanceVanceRefridgeration · 06/08/2024 11:25

LoremIpsumCici · 06/08/2024 11:05

Which part is a “massive reach”? I was told to assume the managers all know better and the directors of Saltdean currently are 100% male:

  • David Bailey, Solicitor
  • Paul Burgess, Town Planner
  • Derek Chester, no occupation
  • Derek Leaver, Company Director
  • Richard Lloyd-Owen, Accountant
  • Gaston Paul Mallia, Designer

What happened to poor Pamela Shepherd? Didn't suit your '100% male' post?

What a random derail you seem to have created here!

NoisyDenimShaker · 06/08/2024 11:24

ticktickticktickBOOM · 06/08/2024 09:06

Yes this has been said many times now on this thread. We get it.

What I don't get is why the pool is specially reserved for dogs in September when they could be making money out of the thousands of people that are only just discovering the lido is open?

September is pretty warm.

I think they need to change this dog promotion - push it back to October when it's colder. Info about the lido is getting out and locals want to visit once the summer tourist season is over. Now we hear it is going to be reserved for DOGS!

The pool should be for humans to enjoy in September.

The dog weekends don't start until mid-September. (Sep 15.) The reason it runs for three weeks right then is because they want to catch the milder weather to make sure people come, because Dogtember is a really, really important month for the Lido, which is a charity. They raise more money from those few weekends than all the previous season's swimming, about 250k. If it got too cold, and rainy, the event would be less popular and they wouldn't get the same money.

It's almost as if they thought it all through!!!!

Plus, the doggies are people too and they deserve a nice swim and some doggie ice cream.

sunglassesonthetable · 06/08/2024 11:23

Bags of money in exchange for low risk is a great deal.

sunglassesonthetable · 06/08/2024 11:22

@LoremIpsumCici

Ah Health and Safety expert too.