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What's more rude - interrupting a reader OR ignoring an interrupter?

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MonsteraMama · 05/08/2024 23:16

An ongoing (and light hearted!) debate in my house currently which I think can be settled with a good old fashioned poll.

Here is the situation: a person is sitting on the sofa reading a book. A member of that person's family enters the room, sees them reading, and tries to engage them in a conversation (in this instance about cats, nothing important or an emergency). The reader "hmm hmms" and makes vaguely agreeable noises but otherwise ignores the interrupter until said interrupter realises the reader is too engaged in their book and leaves the room again.

Who's more rude?

YABU - The reader should have looked up from their book and engaged in the conversation being had with them.

YANBU - The interrupter was rude for expecting the reader to drop what they're doing and engage in conversation with them.

(I am neither interrupter nor reader, just interested in how this would go down in other people's houses, as it's caused some spicy debate this evening between the two parties.)

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Watchkeys · 06/08/2024 14:13

It's not unreasonable to want to sit and read uninterrupted for a bit in the living room

This. In your own house, you do what you want where you want, and respect the others. If someone interrupts you and doesn't realise it's disrespecting your wishes, you clarify your wishes. It's not 'A' is rude and 'B' is not. It's that it's rude to disrespect someone's wishes, and it's rude to expect someone to guess your wishes without you telling them.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 06/08/2024 14:10

WickieRoy · 06/08/2024 10:50

Absolutely, but not the communal bits, that's what bedrooms are for.

I shared a bedroom with my sister for a long time, so the bedroom was essentially a communal area as well. It's not unreasonable to want to sit and read uninterrupted for a bit in the living room.

Everyone is different, but I don't mind chatting so much if I'm gaming as long as there isn't a cut scene or conversation happening, but reading - or watching a film - there's a constant narrative that you're following and it's disrupting to be constantly interrupted. My DGM seemed to find me reading a red flag to a bull, as soon as I got a book out she seemed to feel compelled to talk to me even if she'd had no interest in communicating with me up to that point. I think she disapproved of me reading.

AnnaBegins · 06/08/2024 14:01

I've been trying to train DH for 18 years about how rude this is, without any success. I have carefully explained that, when reading, I am in a completely different world. He needs to get my attention first, then ask his question, not launch into something then get annoyed that I am not instantly "on it". Especially when it is something totally unimportant or incompetence ("where is my phone" for example).
I've stopped reading in front of him, except very occasionally, e.g. on holiday, which is really sad as I used to read avidly.
The interrupter is rude.

veganmayo · 06/08/2024 13:49

longdistanceclaraaa · 05/08/2024 23:26

Ohhh a bugbear of mine is people thinking that someone sitting peacefully reading a book is available to receive any passing thought of someone who happens to glimpse them. You wouldn't stride up and interrupt someone doing many other hobbies, so don't assume I'm fair game!

Exactly this. I don't know what it is about reading that makes people think you're open for conversation or just waiting for something better to come up that you can do instead? Nobody tries to start a conversation with me when I'm watching Netflix but when it's a book it's fine. Baffles me.

WheresFluffy · 06/08/2024 13:30

If I am reading and someone tries to engage me in a conversation, I look up and ask if it's urgent.
If it is, then I talk. If not, I gently point out I am busy reading and that we can chat later.
Easy.

JaninaDuszejko · 06/08/2024 13:18

I just asked my teenage daughters and DH for their thoughts. Both DD say it's rude to interrupt, DH said 'it depends on the context'. Guess who is the person in our house who is not a reader and does interrupt all the time whatever I'm doing, he even comes in for a chat when I'm doing yoga.

As far as communal spaces go, we have 2 seating areas at opposite ends of the garden, and two sitting rooms, there are lots of 'communal' places for being sociable or quiet. Meanwhile our bedroom is not yet decorated and so I'm absolutely reading in the library sitting room with all my books.

phoenixrosehere · 06/08/2024 12:53

The interruptor is rude.

Why not just ask instead of just start to talk at someone?

If someone is doing something imo, they are occupied so it is best to ask than just assume they are up for or want conversation and it shouldn’t matter if it is in a communal area or not.

DH would drive me mental doing this where he would just start talking at me while I was in the middle of something and it would usually be about something where he would have to explain what he was on why could he have not told me this at another time. I could be watching tv and he could see that I was and he would plop down and start talking to me and it didn’t matter if I was watching in the living room, or on my tablet in a bedroom.

I don’t start talking at him when he is doing things unless necessary. I realise he has blinders on when he wants to talk about something and doesn’t take full focus until after he has finished or I tell him to wait.

MonsteraMama · 06/08/2024 12:34

WickieRoy · 06/08/2024 12:33

I don't think @Bloom15 is referring to gamers as losers, she's referring to the prevailing anti-gaming attitude on MN.

If you posted this thread about gaming your daughter would have been flamed to oblivion, along with your own parenting for raising her.

Aaah I see, I misunderstood. Apologies @Bloom15 if that's the case.

Yes you're quite right, I think if she'd been absorbed on her switch or playstation she'd be being lambasted for being a rude and ignorant teenager!

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WickieRoy · 06/08/2024 12:33

MonsteraMama · 06/08/2024 12:27

Tiny bit ironic for you to be calling anyone rude when you've just said something quite rude yourself.

Why does gaming specifically make someone a loser, out of interest?

I don't think @Bloom15 is referring to gamers as losers, she's referring to the prevailing anti-gaming attitude on MN.

If you posted this thread about gaming your daughter would have been flamed to oblivion, along with your own parenting for raising her.

MonsteraMama · 06/08/2024 12:27

Bloom15 · 06/08/2024 12:09

Agree with this. But if you game then you are a loser (I don't game BTW). It's rude to ignore someone talking to you just because you are reading. Go and read somewhere private if you can't put up with interactions

Tiny bit ironic for you to be calling anyone rude when you've just said something quite rude yourself.

Why does gaming specifically make someone a loser, out of interest?

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Gatehouse77 · 06/08/2024 12:12

I’m a reader and do it ‘communal’ areas. DH and kids will say my name and then wait for me to come to an appropriate place to stop and then engage. Sometimes I put on noise cancelling headphones when I’m reading (to cut out ambient noise) so they have to attract my attention.

If your DH thinks his desire for conversation is more important than his daughter’s pleasure in reading then he’s the one with an issue. Unless it’s a time critical conversation but even then I’d wait to have their attention.

Personally, I’d be glad to have a avid 16 year old reader so wouldn’t want it to become an issue.

MrsMitford3 · 06/08/2024 12:09

Thanks for letting us know who is who @MonsteraMama

I think I am even more #teamdaughter.
She has to be able to set healthy boundaries and not be expected to drop what she is doing to placate her DF.

I think a compromise-could he poke his head round the door? Ask if it is a good time?
I don't think just because she is in the living room that she has no right to refuse an unwanted interruption.

How would your DH handle it if he were engrossed in something- Work/film/football/cricket etc and she came in to discuss the cat?

I think it is def about respect and boundaries here.

Bloom15 · 06/08/2024 12:09

sunsetsandboardwalks · 06/08/2024 06:20

Reading seems to be some weird, sacred hobby on MN that can never interrupted, but if anyone is doing anything involving a screen, they're always told to pause it or put their phone down, interact and not be rude 🤷‍♀️

Agree with this. But if you game then you are a loser (I don't game BTW). It's rude to ignore someone talking to you just because you are reading. Go and read somewhere private if you can't put up with interactions

takealettermsjones · 06/08/2024 12:02

MonsteraMama · 06/08/2024 09:33

Go on then, I was starting to annoy myself with the Reader and Interrupter thing anyway. Most people seem to have assumed it's me and my husband anyway.

Reader is our 16yo daughter, Interrupter is my husband/her father.

A few things people have mentioned: daughter was reading in the living room rather than a private space because she wanted to bask in the sun and that room has the best sun. She was reading a book not her phone, and it was at the end of a day we had spent together as a family so while she is prone to vanishing into books, she'd actually been quite social yesterday!

I'm still on the fence over who was more rude, but I was enjoying their lively debate over it! Seems the poll is weighted in daughter's favour, but I've enjoyed reading the mixed views here.

I know it's not what you asked, but I really like the picture you've painted of a fiery debate and them both holding their own while you watch with popcorn 😆 love that for them. We should all be able to have a good robust argument without falling out about it.

Could you come to some kind of arrangement where she's allowed to wear noise cancelling headphones to signal that she wants to concentrate, on the mutual understanding that she still has to be polite if someone really needs to interrupt, but interruptions are not allowed when the headphones are on unless it's v important!

Fudgetheparrot · 06/08/2024 11:29

I don’t really get the whole “would you interrupt someone watching a movie/playing games/an instrument”- if they’re hanging out in the living room then yes, we’ll all casually chat to each other? Sometimes my husband will announce he’s going into a tricky boss fight when he’s gaming and not to talk to him, but I don’t think it’s rude to chat to someone in a shared space just because they’re doing an activity (and I’m an avid reader too).

If it’s every 5 minutes though that’s definitely annoying.

BadNeighbour101 · 06/08/2024 11:01

UtterlyOtterly · 06/08/2024 07:51

Only two interruptions are permissible :

"Would you like a cup of tea?"

"The house is on fire."

this!

WickieRoy · 06/08/2024 10:50

Hucklemuckle · 06/08/2024 10:44

@WickieRoy

It's normal, and positive, to have chit chat with the people you live with. Ignoring them because your book/phone/TV show/game is more interesting to you is pretty rude.
Its normal and positive for home to be a place of respite and a sanctuary where everyone respects each others needs to have uninterrupted quiet time to recoup their energy. If not at home then where?
Nope. This is exactly what home is for.

Absolutely, but not the communal bits, that's what bedrooms are for.

Hucklemuckle · 06/08/2024 10:44

@WickieRoy

It's normal, and positive, to have chit chat with the people you live with. Ignoring them because your book/phone/TV show/game is more interesting to you is pretty rude.
Its normal and positive for home to be a place of respite and a sanctuary where everyone respects each others needs to have uninterrupted quiet time to recoup their energy. If not at home then where?
Nope. This is exactly what home is for.

Arconialiving · 06/08/2024 10:38

Team DD here too.

I find it incredibly rude that someone thinks I need to pay attention to them when I'm quite clearly in the middle of something else requiring my attention. The interrupter should ask if they're free to speak or when would be convenient, not expect that their want to speak is more important than the person reading / watching TV / working etc.

Notthatcatagain · 06/08/2024 10:24

Someone in my home does that while I'm sewing, I have my machine in my private space, it's quite a powerful beast. Last time it happened I asked how he felt about getting the fire brigade in to release me if his distraction caused me to run over my fingers. I gave a fairly graphic description and included the cost of replacing the machine if the working parts were full of blood. Surprisingly he's not done it since. My tolerance is very low, I grew up in a home where reading a book was likely to get me a tongue lashing. My mother considered it to be very ignorant to read a book if there was anyone else (her) around. With hindsight I'm not actually sure that she could read at all. The only thing I ever remember seeing her read was a knitting pattern.

HardyRoseSquid · 06/08/2024 10:12

if we’re discussing a one off interruption then I think it’s rude to ignore the interrupter instead of politely saying ‘I’m reading, can we chat later?’

If the interrupter is a serial offender who hasn’t learned their lesson, ignoring them is justified.

Comtesse · 06/08/2024 10:05

Yup Team DD.

UpThereForThinkingDownThereForDancing · 06/08/2024 09:54

Team DD.

JudgeJ · 06/08/2024 09:35

Haveanaiceday · 05/08/2024 23:34

I'd say the reader is being more rude if they are just reading for fun. It's not like they can't take a short break then get back to the book. If they only have a short time to read then they wouldn't be rude to say they want to get back to the book after a short conversation though.

So trivial conversation trumps reading a book?

MonsteraMama · 06/08/2024 09:33

MrsMitford3 · 06/08/2024 09:11

@MonsteraMama Please will you tell us who is who?

I always feel so unsatisfied by threads like this. I think you are the reader?
Is it DH or DC that interrupts?

Go on then, I was starting to annoy myself with the Reader and Interrupter thing anyway. Most people seem to have assumed it's me and my husband anyway.

Reader is our 16yo daughter, Interrupter is my husband/her father.

A few things people have mentioned: daughter was reading in the living room rather than a private space because she wanted to bask in the sun and that room has the best sun. She was reading a book not her phone, and it was at the end of a day we had spent together as a family so while she is prone to vanishing into books, she'd actually been quite social yesterday!

I'm still on the fence over who was more rude, but I was enjoying their lively debate over it! Seems the poll is weighted in daughter's favour, but I've enjoyed reading the mixed views here.

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