Where is Keir Starmer?

Give it a rest. I bet you were so happy when you saw this thread @Firewalking so you could have a pop at him.

Yes because at this time, we want a very strong, charismatic leader who can speak to the nation and calm the rioters by speaking their language…

And let us not stigmatise these patriots because if they felt recognized, and Starmer had the words, it could stop today

Friends,

Why is anyone taking the time to write proper commentary on this?

The OP hasn't bothered to Google any news before posting, neither did they watch any of his statement today.

This is the very definition of 'fake news', designed to get people frothed up about someone who is working very hard to mitigate against these riots, and who has unmatched experience of how to handle these situations.

It is disappointing that posters like @DirtyCarrots can come on here, post misinformation, then disappear and never post again in the thread, leaving everyone else to carry on the misinformation

However it is very 2020s in terms of the 'post facts era.

People don't want facts anymore, they just want to hate people that don't represent their values. Hence why we are in this riotous mess at the moment.

Elon Musk should stick to hanging out with wives of famous men and advising D Trump. Bugger off and count some billions Elon.

He's probably busy taking the knee somewhere.

He is always like that.

Maybe cos its a massive cultural issue. Whatever he says will only piss people off though, so he's best keeping quiet.

Looks like he is getting on with his job.

Why is this anything other than a matter for the police? Riots are a public order problem.

They sort the tactics and the policing. Who wants a PM that directs the police? He’s done just what he should, provided extra resources and got his colleagues to make provision in the justice system. End.

@PocketSand blahdiblah! You may vote in your MP but you never see them and we all know effectively you're voting for the leader at that point in time. Starmer is the best Labour has and wont be going anywhere any time soon.

No, he didn’t say that.
Maybe you could do with a day off though, busy work posting all this nonsense.

@Radarkeigh are you not in the UK or just ignorant of how the voting system works here?

The only people that could vote Starmer in live in his constituency. Recent UK history should have taught you that the leader of the party can be changed without a general election and is the decision of the party not the electorate. Sunak was not the leader of the Conservative Party when they won the previous election. The Labour Party, with or without Starmer as leader, won this election. HTH.

Basic UK politics should be taught in schools as the ignorance is now getting embarrassing.

didn't he say he doesn't work weekends?

No.

Unless you have a source to the contrary?

I think laziness and gullibility are part of it too.

Wonder how many people who voted him in are pissed at his handling (or not) of these riots.

I assumed Starmer had been in meetings all week. He’s held press conferences too, have you missed them?

Don’t get me wrong, if it was say, Johnson in charge right now and he’d not been seen much I’d assume he was on holiday or shagging someone who he wasn’t married to. But he has form for being a lazy useless bellend.

The approach is 'arrest anyone committing acts of violence and get them to court quickly'. Works for me. Must apply to all rioters of all backgrounds.

The issues: racism, thuggery, scapegoating and misinformation. A lot of it driven by the last government.

The solution: investment in housing, health and education, consequences for violence, I.e. jail, reducing inequality.

Pandering to rioters is not a solution. I have been unhappy with many government decisions over the last 14 years. Not once have I considered filling myself up with booze and going out to set things on fire.

I know posts like this are supposed to be terribly funny.

But racist violence on the streets of the UK doesn't make me giggle.

And 30 seconds on google could have informed you and all the other 'funny' people that you are misinformed. Its not a good look.

@DizzyBumble

Is he allowed to eat? It's dinner with his wife and kids, not a Bullingdon club piss up.
I do believe that PMs are now equipped with all mod cons and communications devices, plus numerous staff, that in the event that something required his immediate attention he can be contacted immediately.

In any event, we don't know what he did last Friday, its Monday so not really an issue.

I seem to recall Boris Johnson got married and had enough time to procreate in the midst of the pandemic and no one seemed to mind

They could discuss the approach they are taking and whether it is working.

Maybe they could discuss the issues that are causing this?

They could even discuss finding a resolution for all?

Why?

in these circumstances - yes I do

A bit thick?
Thick as fucking mince and with an agenda to boot.

He's literally out having meetings etc. What else do you want him to do? Come round for a cup of tea?
He's cancelled his holiday, so why would you think he'd be sunning himself in the Med?

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/08/04/starmer-not-going-holiday-riots-downing-street/

This. People have gotten so used to performative politics filled with grand gestures and empty rhetoric that they seem to be genuinely dumbfounded by people doing they're jobs quietly, effectively and with a degree of competence.

Now I know using the words like effective and competent to describe Keir and Co will send elements of this site into an utter froth but, in the 4 weeks they've been in power they've already sorted out the junior doctors strikes, made amendments to the immigration act that will save the taxpayer hundreds of millions and announce a new national planning framework that may help withnthe housing crisis. You might not agree with these but there's no denying they're motoring on.