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Would you trust a dentist to do facial procedures?

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cookiesnScream · 05/08/2024 08:19

I’m just getting really anxious now. I have a neighbour friend whose a dentist but also dabbles in aesthetics (no idea really what that means but I think Botox, fillers etc). His social media page is always full of people saying thank you etc. and he’s fab etc. and praising him for the work he’s done on their face.

I hate looking at pictures of myself so I decided last week to contact him and book a consultation. I’ve transferred a deposit already (£50) and my appointment is next week. Am I being really silly by going? I’ve never had any work done to my face and honestly I don’t even know what I expect hence the consultation. Please tell me am I being silly by going to a dentist or do most dentists now specialise in facial things too?

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Timinfuckingruislip · 05/08/2024 15:23

cookiesnScream · 05/08/2024 11:50

Thank you everyone! Can someone advise me before I go for my appointment what I should be discussing - I have wrinkles around my eyes and generally just look tired all the time

A good practitioner should be able to discuss this with you.
But - the wrinkles around your eyes - are these “smile lines” if so, Botox can help. Of under the eyes (bags) they might suggest tear trough filler (but I’d be wary of that).

Generally Botox will be done on forehead, frown line and around the eyes (hence when they say “three areas”. The results for Botox aren’t instant - takes a couple of weeks and you often go back for a “top up” (which should be free).

Filler is instant and more for “filling in” lines - I’ve had it around my mouth for example as have some smokers lines. You can also fill out cheeks etc with filler.

Honestly don’t panic - you will be fine

Hoppinggreen · 05/08/2024 15:22

Better a medical professional than some 19 year old who did a 1 week course somewhere.
My friend was a dentist for 20 years and recently sold her practice and in between doing a bit of locum sedation she does Botox and fillers too.
I have no intention of having anything done but tif I did it would be her rather than a beautician

1BodyProblem · 05/08/2024 15:21

Westfacing · 05/08/2024 08:25

A dentist is a fully-trained surgeon - I'd rather a dentist than a beauty therapist or similar injecting chemicals into my face.

Er , no they aren't 😂

Epicaricacy · 05/08/2024 15:21

Werweisswohin · 05/08/2024 15:00

Shouldn't someone be encouraging them to also do some NHS work instead of beauty therapy though?
Vanity over wellbeing.

why? they are not a charity?

Why should they be expected to give away their time for free or next to nothing?

We are not a communist country, they run their private business as they see fit. Most dentists I know are actually heavily involved in charity work, but that's entirely their decision.

NeighbourTrouble63 · 05/08/2024 15:20

Personally I’d much rather go to someone who does aesthetics full time, rather than a dentist who just ‘dabbles’ in it. I appreciate that they have excellent facial anatomy training but there’s more to it than that, it takes experience to get the balance right for Botox in order to avoid the awful frozen face/droopy look that so many women are wandering around with these days.

I go to an ex-maxillofacial surgeon who now does Botox full time. He is absolutely excellent, would never go to anyone else. Those ‘nurse aestheticians’ terrify me - how can you allow someone who has done a few days of a Botox course to make a quick buck near your face?!

PortiaWithNoBreaks · 05/08/2024 15:15

NHS work and their contract is down to the government so maybe lobby your MP for change @Werweisswohin

Werweisswohin · 05/08/2024 15:00

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/08/2024 14:23

As it's all private (other than for a small number of medical conditions), it's entirely up to them if they do this or opt for the stereotypical golf on a Friday and private orthodontics on Tuesdays.

Shouldn't someone be encouraging them to also do some NHS work instead of beauty therapy though?
Vanity over wellbeing.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 05/08/2024 14:26

I'd trust a dentist far more than anyone else to do such procedures.

halava · 05/08/2024 14:24

(I'm not in UK, Europe though), my GP has an aesthetics service. I must find out more about who actually gives the treatment. It is a private practice so it costs, but then it costs to have it done anywhere I suppose, and I'd feel safer having it done at the GP surgery in case I had a bad reaction etc. with all the other stuff I have going on - including old age tramlines lol Grin

Toottooot · 05/08/2024 14:24

Much rather a dentist than someone’s who’s great at eyebrows/nails then decides to take a 2 week course in ‘asfetiks.’

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/08/2024 14:23

Werweisswohin · 05/08/2024 14:17

I don't disagree that they're qualified.
I just feel that actual dentistry is a better use of their time.

As it's all private (other than for a small number of medical conditions), it's entirely up to them if they do this or opt for the stereotypical golf on a Friday and private orthodontics on Tuesdays.

MereDintofPandiculation · 05/08/2024 14:23

Werweisswohin · 05/08/2024 14:17

I don't disagree that they're qualified.
I just feel that actual dentistry is a better use of their time.

But you could say that about so many jobs! Do we really need so many people in advertising? So many spin doctors? So many nail bars? Dentists have paid for their training, it's up to them as to what they do with it. And if as a society we value aesthetics more than healthy teeth for the less well off, well, that's just part of the system.

The comment about qualifications wasn't aimed at you @Werweisswohin , I was just trying to get all my comments in one post rather than several posts.

Werweisswohin · 05/08/2024 14:17

MereDintofPandiculation · 05/08/2024 13:32

Who is "we"? It isn't as if the government can direct the labour of dentists and teel them all to get back to doing NHS dentistry.

Presumably he's finding this work a useful addition to what he earns from dentistry, which would imply the general public is willing to pay more for beauty work than for teeth work.

As to whether they're qualified - our hospital has a Maxilliary-Facial Unit which does things like stitch people up after head injuries. Most of them are dentists.

I don't disagree that they're qualified.
I just feel that actual dentistry is a better use of their time.

KimKardashiansLostEarring · 05/08/2024 13:34

I’d definitely trust a dentist more than a high street/home-based beautician. Sorry not sorry!

MereDintofPandiculation · 05/08/2024 13:32

Werweisswohin · 05/08/2024 08:41

I'd rather a dentist stick to being a denist tbh. Folk cannot get appointments and here we are prioritising this?

Who is "we"? It isn't as if the government can direct the labour of dentists and teel them all to get back to doing NHS dentistry.

Presumably he's finding this work a useful addition to what he earns from dentistry, which would imply the general public is willing to pay more for beauty work than for teeth work.

As to whether they're qualified - our hospital has a Maxilliary-Facial Unit which does things like stitch people up after head injuries. Most of them are dentists.

MrsAnon6 · 05/08/2024 13:04

I'd 100% trust a dentist. They train for 5 years and are medical professionals. They probably understand the structure of the facial muscles better than other healthcare professionals and a lot are classed as doctors as they are so well qualified. You also have to pass in-depth training to qualify to do facial aesthetics and people pay thousands to do it so it shouldn't be something just anyone can do.

Greenbananasoup · 05/08/2024 13:02

I had lip fillers done by my regular dentist and will be getting masseter botox in the future with the hospital dentist. Agree with what everyone’s said, they’re experts in facial muscles/anatomy!

Comparethemarket · 05/08/2024 12:58

The lady who does my Botox is a qualified dentist who went into full-time aesthetics. She's fab and as others have said, who better to know about facial anatomy?

Werweisswohin · 05/08/2024 12:56

Epicaricacy · 05/08/2024 12:50

NHS appointments are impossible to get around here, even being on an NHS list is not happening.

However private dentists see you within a week, and can usually slot you same day for emergencies. Nothing wrong with them expending their business.
It will be safer, meaning less risks or need to get things corrected on the NHS.

As already stated, I feel that dentistry takes priority over beauty treatment.

KohlaParasaurus · 05/08/2024 12:53

Yes, I think dentists doing cosmetic facial procedures is a very logical extension of their professional role.

Shinyandnew1 · 05/08/2024 12:53

I would trust a dentist over most people doing facial procedures, tbh. They do hundreds of procedure on people’s faces every week and are far more knowledgeable about anatomy, medication and pain than many other people offering fillers!

CormorantStrikesBack · 05/08/2024 12:50

I wouldn’t trust anyone who “dabbles” in it to do it. Depends on the extent of the dabbling I guess.

I have a doctor friend who does it, he did a one day course and treats it like a joke with Botox parties at peoples houses. Wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole.

i think experience is important. If he does it once a month then no. More regularly then maybe.

Epicaricacy · 05/08/2024 12:50

Werweisswohin · 05/08/2024 08:41

I'd rather a dentist stick to being a denist tbh. Folk cannot get appointments and here we are prioritising this?

NHS appointments are impossible to get around here, even being on an NHS list is not happening.

However private dentists see you within a week, and can usually slot you same day for emergencies. Nothing wrong with them expending their business.
It will be safer, meaning less risks or need to get things corrected on the NHS.

CurlsLDN · 05/08/2024 12:45

yes a dentist and a consultation fee (which Is usually deducted from your treatment bill) are normal and all good signs of a professional set up!

I’ve had Botox for migraine, that’s a recognised treatment on the nhs and privately. I’ve also had it for my ‘11s’

OP. Just say what you’ve said here and let them advise. If you are happy with their suggestions and feel confident you will probably be able to have the procedure straight away, at the same appointment, but if you are at all unsure or want to think it over it’s also totLlly normal and ok to leave and book the treatment later when you’re ready (if you want it!)

Goldcushions2 · 05/08/2024 12:39

Westfacing · 05/08/2024 08:25

A dentist is a fully-trained surgeon - I'd rather a dentist than a beauty therapist or similar injecting chemicals into my face.

Definitely.
Have you any idea just how skilled a good dentist is and how detailed their training is in the face and muscles.

Look at Profilho is recommended for the lower face and I have seen the incredible work of some dentists in this area for women in their mid late 50's.

You wouldn't notice except that they haven't any droop and appear nicely taught.

Very impressive IMO.