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Remember when a white man went on a stabbing spree in Hainault in April and killed a young black boy?

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EddyF · 04/08/2024 22:30

Or when a white man walked round Plymouth with a shotgun and killed 5 (including a 3yo girl). Where were the "protests" then? Stony silence from this lot.

Or the (white) thug that barged into poor Olivia's home chasing his rival and shot her dead.

What we are seeing has less to do with poverty and everything to do with full on racism. All this sociological analysis of poverty/feeling left behind is a cover for their down right racism. You could each of them a million pounds and they would still have HATE in their heart for ‘foreigners’ born here or from boats.

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BeEasyonYourself · 05/08/2024 13:54

DancefloorAcrobatics · 05/08/2024 13:46

@BeEasyonYourself Obviously EDL ... I'm not against protests.

It's the rioters that I despise. It's a small group of people who will need to be stopped by police (government) ASAP. Otherwise we'll see a lot more of this shit in the near future.

They were pathetic. They were throwing empty bottles and cans at my husband and others and when I called them out on it (the adrenaline had kicked in) they literally ran away! OK tough guy 😅

DancefloorAcrobatics · 05/08/2024 13:46

@BeEasyonYourself Obviously EDL ... I'm not against protests.

It's the rioters that I despise. It's a small group of people who will need to be stopped by police (government) ASAP. Otherwise we'll see a lot more of this shit in the near future.

FiveFoxes · 05/08/2024 13:39

It's definitely racism - they don't care that the 17 yr old attacker was born in Britain, they are just interested in him parents being immigrants and his skin colour. That's those who have moved on from the initial lies about him coming over in a boat. I don't think they'd care even if it was his grandparents or great grandparents who were immigrants.

But it is poverty too. It is people who feel hard done by who riot. It doesn't cause racism, but it fuels it.

I have been looking at Facebook profiles on those in my area who support the riots. They are largely people who have been sharing armed forces/ remembrance day/ England football things for years and years. They also seem to all have loved Boris, but moved onto Farage (no love for Rishi, strangely enough). And were in favour of a no-deal Brexit. They were massively pro staying at home at the beginning of COVID, but then became anti vaccines, masks and restrictions. Some veer widely into conspiracy theories too.

BeEasyonYourself · 05/08/2024 13:33

DancefloorAcrobatics · 05/08/2024 00:12

No-one is protesting. Some people are using it as an excuse to have a riot

This ^ 100%
Just some bored thugs testing the new governments response to their radical views.

Are you talking about the EDL or the counter protests?

I was a part of the counter protest in Bristol and I'm glad I was, we made it very clear that they weren't welcome here and we outnumbered them massively. No rioting involved.

Eviebeans · 05/08/2024 13:32

Sadly the people who are rioting just need an excuse anything will do
I for one have no sympathy for them - so they feel poor, neglected and left behind.
So what -
I care less about their own situation with every window they break and every racist name they shout

VerySadCase · 05/08/2024 13:31

RadFs · 05/08/2024 13:26

I work in Health care and the number of times I come across far right patients who think they are better than me and I’ve stolen their job. I had to go to university to earn my degree. How we are stealing their jobs I have no idea. I didn’t migrate to the United Kingdom. They just chose not to study and get a good career. Probably relying on handoffs.

My dd did work experience at a GP surgery and she was humbled and inspired by the incredible care and compassion shown by a black nurse to even the vilest of racist patients. She had so much admiration for that woman, and will no doubt remember her when she encounters racist patients of her own in the years to come.

Thank you for doing what you do.

RadFs · 05/08/2024 13:26

I work in Health care and the number of times I come across far right patients who think they are better than me and I’ve stolen their job. I had to go to university to earn my degree. How we are stealing their jobs I have no idea. I didn’t migrate to the United Kingdom. They just chose not to study and get a good career. Probably relying on handoffs.

littletesco · 05/08/2024 13:26

Persiancouscous · 04/08/2024 23:52

No one protested when the soldier was recently stabbed in the back 🤔... I don't understand your point.

After many riots and protests from blm/ pro Palestine, Manchester/ Rochdale. Why are these bothering you?

Today in Bolton with 200 Asian men running around screaming God is great has been enriching 😂

"Enriching" ??

The racists code word. No longer so coded. You'll need another.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 05/08/2024 13:23

They were looking for an excuse, and in effect egged on by bad actors, including far right MPs. Goodness knows what "Tommy Robinson" (self styled) and his ilk put on Telegram, as I don't have it.

RadFs · 05/08/2024 13:21

EddyF · 04/08/2024 22:45

I have just seen a video of a little girl about 10 years old walking hand in hand with her mother chanting “Pak** OUT” over and over again. Faces clear as day with the mother laughing. What mother uses a child in that way?

Can you share a link to it please?

This guy was hit by his own like. He’ll end up going to the hospital and being treated by mostly a ‘foreign’ doctor.

FiftynFooked · 05/08/2024 13:21

I've just had a Muslim member of my team ask whether she can work from home until it all settles down as she's too scared to catch the bus into the office. Of course I said yes but I'm so angry and sad that she's had to do that.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 05/08/2024 13:10

@Werweisswohin I've seen comments saying that Nigeria and Malaysia have. The Nigerian one just advises caution and avoiding political rallies and protests, as well as large crowds.

They haven't advised against travel, it's more of a FYI.

BlackShuck3 · 05/08/2024 13:01

PollyPeachum · 05/08/2024 12:54

The King is forbidden from getting involved in Politics of any kind. Power has been taken away from them over the centuries. Bite by bite their role has been reduced and the power transferred to the Government of the day.
He will be keeping himself fully up to date.
Tony Blair mentioned in his diaries how he kept the Queen informed of events.

Poor Charlie, they won't give him anything important to do so he has no choice but to spend his time focusing on making himself even more wealthy.

PollyPeachum · 05/08/2024 12:54

The King is forbidden from getting involved in Politics of any kind. Power has been taken away from them over the centuries. Bite by bite their role has been reduced and the power transferred to the Government of the day.
He will be keeping himself fully up to date.
Tony Blair mentioned in his diaries how he kept the Queen informed of events.

Werweisswohin · 05/08/2024 12:51

stronglatte · 05/08/2024 12:49

4 countries have now issued Travel alerts to the the UK .. well done you idiots the country you say you are so proud of will suffer

Out of interest, which 4?
Surely they can't be included ALL of the UK?

stronglatte · 05/08/2024 12:49

4 countries have now issued Travel alerts to the the UK .. well done you idiots the country you say you are so proud of will suffer

Werweisswohin · 05/08/2024 12:48

StSwithinsDay · 04/08/2024 23:33

@LeFromage
I started a thread asking that question. One person responded that the King doesn't get involved in day to day shit. Someone else said it's trivial.

Others pointed out why a very privileged man making a statement probably wouldn't help.

PollyPeachum · 05/08/2024 12:48

In the examples quoted like Plymouth, The names were released there was no doubt about who was involved.

stronglatte · 05/08/2024 12:48

@DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace I saw this too. Horrendous to see the maternal pride in that woman's face as her daughter skips and shouts her racial expletives . Made me shudder

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 05/08/2024 12:48

Definitely wasn't "stony silence" when Olivia Pratt-Korbel was murdered in her own home. That is a false comparison OP.

Come on - there weren't widespread riots under the pretext of "saving our children".

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 05/08/2024 12:46

EddyF · 04/08/2024 22:45

I have just seen a video of a little girl about 10 years old walking hand in hand with her mother chanting “Pak** OUT” over and over again. Faces clear as day with the mother laughing. What mother uses a child in that way?

I saw that. Absolutely appalling. She's young enough to be holding her mother's hand, and half skipping down the street with a smile on her face like any other happy young child. But she's yelling racist insults while she does it.

JackRabbitSlim · 05/08/2024 12:45

Persiancouscous · 05/08/2024 11:58

Yes, perfectly normal for a 17 year old to just wander into a swiftie 2 hour event aimed at primary school children... I suppose if a 17 year old white boy walked into a cultural event and went on a stabbing spree, it wouldn't be seen as racist at all 🤔

You do know not all attendees were white?

Speculation is what is causing so many issues as well. We don't know why he did it. If asked, I would guess incel or mental health issues. It could be one of those, it could be racially motivated, he could have simply wanted to do something horrifically evil. Until he is tried and the professionals do their jobs, we won't know.

What will be causing even more pain to the families involved is the rioting, I dare imagine.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 05/08/2024 12:38

Persiancouscous · 05/08/2024 11:58

Yes, perfectly normal for a 17 year old to just wander into a swiftie 2 hour event aimed at primary school children... I suppose if a 17 year old white boy walked into a cultural event and went on a stabbing spree, it wouldn't be seen as racist at all 🤔

Are you being obtuse on purpose? How would said 17 year old know the ethnicities of the children taking this class? How do you know? A dance class isn't a cultural event it's a bloody dance class!

JazbayGrapes · 05/08/2024 12:31

Just some bored thugs testing the new governments response to their radical views.

A bit like BLM riots. All orchestrated "from above" so they could bring more surveilence and criminalize protests altogether.

VerySadCase · 05/08/2024 12:14

Persiancouscous · 05/08/2024 11:56

I dont spend much time on mn but you obviously do. But you do mean, you can't be bothered to discuss any of my points but come to some sort of conclusion. Not everyone who is white, agrees there is a two tier system, some of us that see this system and social problem are mixed heritage... think Iran 1970s and family being made to leave because of the Islamic revolution.

I'm not really interested in what your background is. I'm only judging you by the content of your posts.

And you're right, I can't be bothered to discuss any of your points. I think you have a clear agenda that will not change and it would be a waste of my time. However, I will keep on reporting your posts as I see fit.

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