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To think there's got to be at least a couple of MNers involved in the rioting ?

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IdontlikePinaColada · 04/08/2024 20:30

Based in the broad views seen here, I can't believe that there isn't someone who is involved either passively or actively.
If you are one of those, would you like to explain why?

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ghostyslovesheets · 05/08/2024 00:00

You leave your sisters because they won’t be forced to fight and die for the taliban - not sure why you don’t understand that while life is shit for woman in Afghanistan it’s deadly for young men - and most don’t come here by plane they travel for months being abused and starved because they think the UK is safe - I mean, apart from seeing British forces attack the taliban first hand I’m not sure why they think that?

HelenaWaiting · 04/08/2024 23:56

TooBigForMyBoots · 04/08/2024 22:49

I don't think so. The rioters are a tiny percentage of the population.

Useful idiots? There's lots of them on Mnet. Stupid fuckers, they're nothing but unpaid Putin's puppets.🤦‍♀️ And then there are far right proponents and Russian trolls.🙄

I don't think there are any actual rioters though. There may be partners of rioters.Sad

That'll be everyone who tried to drum up support for Reform UK then. Because it is Reform's performance in the General Election that has emboldened these fuckwits.

ghostyslovesheets · 04/08/2024 23:56

ATenShun · 04/08/2024 23:50

I trust you have seen the condition of housing being offered to social tenants. I take it you have experienced the years decades wait for some people to get anywhere near an offer of a house of their own. What about the massively increased waiting lists for medical or dental treatment.

These are the kind of things that are affecting the average man/woman on the street. Want to talk about fleeing conscription into armed forces, tell me how large is the taliban force in Albania and Romania, one of the largest area of origin for current illegal immigrants.

The estimated payment to smugglers to just get across the channel is £5k. Why would a person travel thousands of miles, go through numerous Countries of safety to pay smugglers sums like that to enter here.

Or Albania or Romania, whats the cost of a flight? Considerably less than being smuggled I'd of thought.

Your Country of origin is unsafe, yet you decide to leave your parents, sisters, wives at home in that dangerous place. Or taking Afghanistan as example, you could travel into Pakistan and get flights direct to the UK or any number of other Countries and place of safety for under £500 each.

Albanians are sent back - they are not deemed to have a legitimate asylum claim

as to the rest - look to your government of the last 14 years - none of those issues are caused by people fleeing conflict

ATenShun · 04/08/2024 23:52

RosaRoja · 04/08/2024 23:51

Romania is in the EU, you muppet. There are no illegals immigrants from Romania.

Keep up we aren't in the EU! 😂

RosaRoja · 04/08/2024 23:51

Romania is in the EU, you muppet. There are no illegals immigrants from Romania.

ATenShun · 04/08/2024 23:50

ghostyslovesheets · 04/08/2024 23:19

look after our own problems first. Or to ask a limit on the amount of single male immigrants arriving and being put up in hotels in small towns as well as cities

but those 'statements offer no solution - they just say 'immigrants are a problem' so that's still fanning the flames of hatred that leads to this.

We DO look after our own - we have a benefit system, homeless officers in each LA, social housing, emergency accommodation and jobs! Males come here because they are more likely to be targeted by armed forces like the Taliban and forced to fight - I would not send my daughter on the journeys any of my young male AS I work with have made - criminal exploitation, abuse and assault are common - males have a better chance of surviving and once here and settled can get their female relatives to safety - so pat statements don't actually show the whole picture

I trust you have seen the condition of housing being offered to social tenants. I take it you have experienced the years decades wait for some people to get anywhere near an offer of a house of their own. What about the massively increased waiting lists for medical or dental treatment.

These are the kind of things that are affecting the average man/woman on the street. Want to talk about fleeing conscription into armed forces, tell me how large is the taliban force in Albania and Romania, one of the largest area of origin for current illegal immigrants.

The estimated payment to smugglers to just get across the channel is £5k. Why would a person travel thousands of miles, go through numerous Countries of safety to pay smugglers sums like that to enter here.

Or Albania or Romania, whats the cost of a flight? Considerably less than being smuggled I'd of thought.

Your Country of origin is unsafe, yet you decide to leave your parents, sisters, wives at home in that dangerous place. Or taking Afghanistan as example, you could travel into Pakistan and get flights direct to the UK or any number of other Countries and place of safety for under £500 each.

Krampers · 04/08/2024 23:37

Plenty of racists on here of course!

ghostyslovesheets · 04/08/2024 23:19

look after our own problems first. Or to ask a limit on the amount of single male immigrants arriving and being put up in hotels in small towns as well as cities

but those 'statements offer no solution - they just say 'immigrants are a problem' so that's still fanning the flames of hatred that leads to this.

We DO look after our own - we have a benefit system, homeless officers in each LA, social housing, emergency accommodation and jobs! Males come here because they are more likely to be targeted by armed forces like the Taliban and forced to fight - I would not send my daughter on the journeys any of my young male AS I work with have made - criminal exploitation, abuse and assault are common - males have a better chance of surviving and once here and settled can get their female relatives to safety - so pat statements don't actually show the whole picture

ATenShun · 04/08/2024 23:11

I suspect there is a silent significant proportion of the population who don't support the rioting, but do support what is being demonstrated against. I believe what was considered being middle of the road politically is now being wrongly labelled far right.

Statements like look after our own problems first. Or to ask a limit on the amount of single male immigrants arriving and being put up in hotels in small towns as well as cities. Should not be considered racist. Yet anyone of late speaking this type of talk get branded racist.

This is the same issue happening right across Europe and our politicians have ignored this simmering unrest for too long, and are now reaping the consequences.

ghostyslovesheets · 04/08/2024 23:11

and yes there are a lot of 'wide eyed innocent' 'what is this all about' trolls posters about along with the outright obvious racists

ghostyslovesheets · 04/08/2024 23:09

BeachParty · 04/08/2024 22:53

I just don't get the mentality.
"We want our country back, keep the streets safe for the kiddies and women!"
What, by setting bins on fire and rioting in the streets?!
Absolutely brain dead.

Well spitting on women, calling women cunts, attacking hotels where women are working/living, attacking female police officers, ripping the hijab off a woman in front of her children - kind of shows how much they care about women and children

Guavafish1 · 04/08/2024 23:08

I agree.

See there is a lot of white supremacy on this site

QueenOfTheNihilist · 04/08/2024 23:07

The thread on the very day of the horror in Southport was shocking. Loads of posts, before any details were known at all, insinuating various versions of religious / Islamic involvement, then numerous posts spewing the 100% false Twitter allegations and some spurious ‘news’ channel. A fake Arabic name, / came on a small boat last year/ watched by MI5… a Bingo list so obvious…. And then those that had spewed this stuff were telling posters who had urged people not to speculate to get off their high horses as obviously they had been right…Loads of people saying this is why they voted Reform.

There have been disingenuous threads concerned about ‘Tommy Robinson’s’ rights to free speech having been suppressed.

MN is teeming with people who at the very least share some sympathies with these thugs, or are trolls stirring it up.

I am guessing that none of those posters have been out rebuilding mosque walls or sweeping town squares.

RockyRogue1001 · 04/08/2024 23:06

SerafinasGoose · 04/08/2024 22:59

Those types hate women. Even those among their number who are women, hate women.

To be fair, there are some on here that are like that too 😂

TooBigForMyBoots · 04/08/2024 22:59

Babbahabba · 04/08/2024 22:56

More like to be one of the many abusive husbands/partners that so many desperate women start threads about in Relationships. Violent thugs are overwhelmingly male.

Yep. That sort of aggression doesn't disappear when those men get home.Sad

SerafinasGoose · 04/08/2024 22:59

BeachParty · 04/08/2024 22:53

I just don't get the mentality.
"We want our country back, keep the streets safe for the kiddies and women!"
What, by setting bins on fire and rioting in the streets?!
Absolutely brain dead.

Those types hate women. Even those among their number who are women, hate women.

BeachParty · 04/08/2024 22:56

HeddaGarbled · 04/08/2024 22:51

I think these men, if they were aware of or have an opinion about Mumsnet users, would despise and denigrate us. It’s hard to think of two demographics which are further apart.

I think it's naive to think it's just men out there
Saw a video of one woman pushing a bin down the street at one.
Some woman on our absolute cesspit of a local FB group is boasting about her husband being at one, and "he's doing it for the country" or some such shit. 🙄
Edited to say I bet there is a few MNers out there involved given how big it is on here.

Babbahabba · 04/08/2024 22:56

More like to be one of the many abusive husbands/partners that so many desperate women start threads about in Relationships. Violent thugs are overwhelmingly male.

BeachParty · 04/08/2024 22:53

I just don't get the mentality.
"We want our country back, keep the streets safe for the kiddies and women!"
What, by setting bins on fire and rioting in the streets?!
Absolutely brain dead.

DickEmery · 04/08/2024 22:52

I agree. Reckon Crumbs is putting a few windows through. Maybe getting herself a nice new diamond fondue set.

HeddaGarbled · 04/08/2024 22:51

I think these men, if they were aware of or have an opinion about Mumsnet users, would despise and denigrate us. It’s hard to think of two demographics which are further apart.

Scammersarescum · 04/08/2024 22:51

I was going to riot, but I got distracted by a massive salad.

Joking aside, I doubt there us any crossover.

RosaRoja · 04/08/2024 22:51

wutheringkites · 04/08/2024 22:42

Actively rioting? Probably not.

Spreading fake news and trying to drum up support? Yes, loads of them.

Exactly this

IdontlikePinaColada · 04/08/2024 22:49

FionnulaTheCooler · 04/08/2024 22:41

How do you passively riot then?

By that I mean that you know someone (partner/family member) who is involved.

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