To think there's got to be at least a couple of MNers involved in the rioting ?

It is not a 'skin-colour based slur' at all. Unless you include a rush of blood to the face when shouting abuse.

It's a criticism of behaviour. And a justifiably earned one, when we are talking about the incendiary racist commentary currently infesting this site.

Oh - you are claiming it's 'just the same', right?

I don’t think skin colour based slurs will help anything.

A sad gammon, more likely.

StarDolphins · Yesterday 22:45
My feeling is that MN is far too left wing to ever be involved. I don’t think anyone on here would do this.

I would not join these imbecilic riots, but if they ever start fracking here (they wouldn't, I have 18 ins of top soil then chalk) I will be the old lady glued to the road.
So, would I ever riot, yes, but safely, politely, and probably with a good book, my specs safely attached to a chain around my neck, a first aid kit, spare sandwiches and water for the feckless, plenty of tissues and a sun hat.
I also have a little knife with many, many attachments, but I am wary of carrying it whilst rioting. A little fold up stool, perhaps?

You may not see a vast amount of women throwing stuff but the ladies are using soft power behind the scenes with the men.The women are not all passive and think the government will sort out the issues the country is facing.So yes we are there just not on the front line.

How can anyone joke about this? When they burn buildings there are people inside, you are supporting and joking about burning people alive...... you are vile

The UK police have been defunded and 'politically messed around with' for decades and Labour have only been in office foir 2 weeks with full access to the ACTUAL books and a chance to speak to regional commanders.
At least the new Home Secretary can call on GCHQ and others to analyse phone data to build a proper picture of what is happening and who, which will of course will be a monumental task. Remember EVERY mobile phone communicates it's position to within 10 Metres so the data is available BUT it is the Home Secretary in the UK who has the power to DEMAND data is examined, not necessarily Starmer. There is of couyrse an issue that Foreign powers (USA and others) have probably also been collecting this data as 'secrecy' is largely a myth and it is ony a matter of TIME before data can be read and acted upon which in many cases maked the resulting DATA almost useless.

I tell you what, those big metal wheelie bins are fucking heavy!

Probably, it’s like the daily mail comment page on here sometimes 🤢

4 countries have now issued travel warnings to the UK. So the country that these idiots think they are defending they are damaging. Uni students are unlikely to want to come with this news and foreign investment will look elsewhere . Doesn't help that the government don't seem have done anything other than leave it to the police to take a battering .

There are plenty of "bad actors" stirring up hate on every popular online platform. Mumsnet is no different. There is no reason to believe anyone on here is who they claim to be. I'm sure there are Russian propaganda trolls on here.

this isn't funny. people are getting stabbed, attacked, actually hurt.

No.

Are you joking?!

ATenShun
Knowing the treatment than women get under the Taliban. Surely taking the whole family into a neighbouring country and then on to a flight to a safe country from there would be better than a single man suffering that horrible smugglers route.

Building on what others have said, getting a visa to enter the U.K. isn’t easy for many people from ‘poorer’ countries. Obviously the U.K. authorities are wary about potential overstayers.

Airlines have to check that passengers have valid passports and visas and if they transport passengers who are subsequently denied entry to the U.K., they are fined for each passenger and have to repatriate them at the airline’s cost. Clearly this incentivises (hope that’s a word) airlines to be careful about who they let on their flights.

So no. Travelling to Pakistan from Afghanistan and then onto a flight bound for the U.K. is not a viable option for most.

It was a woman who started all this with that false tweet, picked up by Robinson and passed on to his cronies. But now they all know it was fake news, they are still rioting.

The 'divide and rule' tactic is so strong as COL and other pressures bite.

It's not just race. Plenty of posters here, presumably including those who abhor the current riots and racism, were declaring themselves 'delighted' that the Winter Fuel Allowance has been scrapped, and shrugging at the possibility that this means pensioners living alone (only one state pension to heat a home) on the basic state pension and no more will die through lack of heating this year. Justified with a shrug and a 'there will always be those who miss out' . No interest in discussing a higher threshold etc. Just 'delighted' because they know pensioners who go on cruises.

That too is divide and rule - of course it is very hard for young families on low oncomes now, but divide and rule ageism and tropes about greedy wealthy boomers have fed right into a narrative that makes it OK for the Nans of struggling young families to die of cold.

Meanwhile the real issue is who owns the energy companies? (private tax dodging corporations, often not UK owned) Who runs the housing supply in this country? (private tax dodging developers, often selling to a foreign market) , who under-funds the NHS and why? And so on.

Misinformation has rich breeding grounds.

The rioters are a minority and tend to be men; women tend to join the peace protests or hide in fear when their communities are targeted.
I reckon it will be the same men that happily beat the crap out of their loved ones at home.

Looking at the other threads Instrongly suspect there are! I won’t name any posters but some of the threads started or the comments from people claiming to be Lib Dems etc. ‘ I didn’t vote reform but…’ on here show a level of bigotry and ignorance that is astonishing to me

Do some posters think they're being funny?

Me too.

I think I saw you. It was amazing the way you picked up that concrete bollard and threw it through the Pound Shop window.

No sorry, I wasn't implying you'd been deleted for name calling, I was just making the point of how you say something being the difference between breaking talk guidelines or not iyswim

I used the twat thing example because I think I'm funny. (I'm not funny)

It seems very unfair to be deleted for describing something you saw with your own eyes. It's hard to interpret that as anything other than mn saying you're a liar!

No it's not that, it was factual information (that I'd personally witnessed as well) that didn't fit the narrative here.

I rarely ever get into name-calling because I find it boring.

In fact over the years I've perfected several ways to call people fucking twats politely.

Which is not an achievement so much as it is proof I'm the bigger twat 🤣

What did you say?
I realise it will likely be deleted too but I suspect it will be the way you said it rather than what you said iyswim.
Things can break talk guidelines based on how they are said.
Eg you fucking twat, you talk shit
Will be deleted
But you could say wow, I think that's absolutely untrue and in my opinion people who say things like that run the risk of being considered utter twats
And most likely not get deleted.