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"It's a shame you can't get a new build"

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itscominghomeee · 04/08/2024 18:18

I am mid-twenties and single. I have worked hard to save up a deposit to buy a house and now have enough of a deposit, and a not-huge-but-reasonable salary in my first managerial post, to make offers on houses. None of my similarly aged friends are at the stage of buying a house yet. I am looking at typical first time buyer houses: terraces or even some semi-detached, but my mum and her sister have commented a couple of times that it's a shame that I can't buy a new build.

I went yesterday to see a house with my mum and the current owner has refurbished downstairs and put a new kitchen in and installed a downstairs toilet within the last two years. Upstairs is in good condition too, but my mum said afterwards, "from downstairs you almost think it's new, but when you go upstairs you remember that it's a very old house".

My mum also told me yesterday that her sister had said to her again recently, "couldn't itscominghomeee get a new build? There are lots of new builds being built in that area".

AIBU to feel upset by these comments? Of course a new build would be lovely, but it's unrealistic for the vast majority of people in my age bracket and stage of career, especially those who are single. The comments feel like they're undermining my hard work saving up and like my mum/aunt are saying that the houses I can afford aren't good enough.

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Thebellofstclements · 04/08/2024 20:25

We all bought Victorian terraces/converted semis when I was young. They are so well built. New builds do not have that reputation unfortunately

brunettemic · 04/08/2024 20:24

😂 utterly baffled at why you’re upset 😂

Another2Cats · 04/08/2024 20:23

Fannyfiggs · 04/08/2024 18:35

Jesus, the comments. I live in a new build and I love my home. I have a huge garden and it's certainly not soulless nor made of cardboard. I feel so lucky and grateful to have been able to buy my own home.

I appreciate they're not for everyone but have a bit of respect.

OP, well bloody done for saving what you have. It's not easy so you buy what you want, unless your mum and aunty are willing to top up your funds.

"I have a huge garden and it's certainly not soulless nor made of cardboard."

While you may have this, that is certainly uncommon in most new builds.

If I can be really nosey, can I ask just how huge a garden you're talking about?

To me, a "huge" garden is around 3/4 acre or half an acre at a minimum. I remember back in the 1980s-1990s that a decent sized plot for a detached new build house would typically be around a quarter of an acre, but sometimes they were really squeezing them in and only giving around half that much space, say 500 sq metres of garden.

But, if you look at most new builds these days the amount of land is so much smaller.

Here are some typical four bed detached new builds in the city where I live:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/147832049#/?channel=RES_NEW

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/149647076#/?channel=RES_NEW

They have nowhere near this much land.

and here is what you can get for the same money with an older house:

1707 house with exposed beams and half an acre of land:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146363957#/?channel=RES_BUY

Typical 1930s detached with 1/4 acre:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/149124956#/?channel=RES_BUY

Check out this 5 bedroom detached house for sale on Rightmove

5 bedroom detached house for sale in Towngate East, Market Deeping, PE6 for £500,000. Marketed by Winkworth, Market Deeping

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/146363957#/?channel=RES_BUY

DodoTired · 04/08/2024 20:22

As someone who bought a newbuild, DONT buy a new build!

ShoehornSheryl · 04/08/2024 20:20

You couldn’t pay me to buy a new build.

outdamnedspots · 04/08/2024 20:20

Give me an older house with character every single time!

Your family should be building you up, not criticising you and bringing you down.

Congratulations on having saved up to buy a house - that's a great achievement.

Straightouttachelmsford · 04/08/2024 20:19

I've worked in show homes and had to listen to people tearing their hair out about snagging. Give me a solid house anyday.

TheFormidableMrsC · 04/08/2024 20:19

I bought a relatively new build and it's made of cardboard. My next property will be something old. They are thrown up, lack storage in my experience and the rooms are small. Not worth the price premium IMO.

VaguelySpecific · 04/08/2024 20:18

babasaclover · 04/08/2024 18:22

New builds are made of cardboard. Why on earth would anyone want one!!!

Because their old landlord wanted to sell up and that's all they could afford? Because a relationship broke up and to stay in the same area as their children and support system that's what they could buy as no one else was selling?
I get that people like to come on these threads too be dismissive of those who live in new builds but can you really not think of any circumstances people might live in one?

VividQuoter · 04/08/2024 20:17

These are relatives yet they throw jealousy spanners in your works!

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 04/08/2024 20:17

You don't want a new build. They lose value after the first sale as there is a "new build premium" on the market value. And the quality these days is appalling. You see so many people talking about that, so many people with snags lists as long as their arms.

My DH used to work in a building adjacent trade and still has a lot of contacts there. A lot of his mates from that time are refusing to take those contracts because they aren't allowed to do good quality work. It has to be fast and cheap.

Lilacapples · 04/08/2024 20:17

Our first house at 19 was a 1960’s terrace. I loved it and we extended it and did a loft conversion over the years and increased the value so much. Our house now is a 1930’s house. I love this too, lots of character, big garden , huge bedrooms, original features, cornice, skirting, light fittings. I’d never buy a new build. They usually come with a whole host of problems, gardens that flood being an issue I see constantly on SM. They’ve got no character and usually small rooms.

LyricalGangsta · 04/08/2024 20:17

In response to OP :

Shame?!

🤔

Corvidmango · 04/08/2024 20:15

I don’t like new builds and I’ve heard lots of stories of things going wrong. I love old houses. Way more character. Go for what YOU want within your budget and ignore what anyone else thinks.

MyOtherHusbandIsAWash · 04/08/2024 20:14

I wouldn’t buy a new build unless you paid me or I was incredibly desperate. Build quality, crappy room and garden sizes, management companies, often rubbish parking. And the prices you then pay for the ‘benefit’ of it being a new build?! The one and only reason I can see for shirking houses older than 1990 is the risk of bad asbestos. Get whatever it is you want, you worked hard to save that money.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 04/08/2024 20:14

I bought a new build flat as my first home back in the early 90’s. Also looked at a terrace near to my family home which I liked - same price.
My late DM said at the time - I was brought in a terrace, I’m not having you going backwards, you are buying that over my dead body.
My parents helped with my deposit and I got the flat.
SO badly built I recently saw one for auction for 25k (15k less than I paid for it 30 years ago!) The terraced house is now worth 190k.
The lesson - go with your gut and your mother isn’t always flipping right!!!!
(Within a year of moving into my flat the ceiling was falling in, the electrics blew, the heating packed up and it was riddled with damp - I couldn’t get out of it quickly enough!) Have friends in new builds which are lovely, for balance!

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 04/08/2024 20:13

blueberryforest · 04/08/2024 20:07

I'll never understand the widespread dislike of new builds on MN. It's not just the dislike, but the vitriolic disdain and the absolute pride in their disgust for anything less than 100 years old. Confused
My new build was new in the early 2000s and has more than doubled in value since we built it. Maybe it doesn't have all the charm of an older property, but it's served us fairly well, and there are pros and cons to every home, regardless of age.

OP, I'd ask why people in your life are recommending a new build, then counter with your own view and finish by saying that you've made your decision and will appreciate if they can try to be happy for you.

You say you built it? If it’s a home you had built with builders you commissioned yourself, then that’s not the sort of home people refer to when they talk of ‘new builds’. New build disdain comes from the estates that are thrown up from the same developers, when they buy a plot of land and proceed to vomit out 400 near identical variations of the same cardboard house
Also, even typical new builds of the early 00s are far better than the new builds of the last 15 years. I bought a new build in 97, wasn’t as good as an older house, but nowhere near as awful as what they throw up today.
we viewed quite a lot when we moved 5 years ago, all awful-we eventually bought a house built in the early 80s

Bellyblueboy · 04/08/2024 20:13

New builds aren’t necessarily superior - yes they will be bang on style for today, but can lack character.

there are advantages and disadvantages. My first two homes were new builds - I was very proud of them but now have enough money to have bought somewhere older with character. It has a much bigger garden and the sound proofing is much much better!!

to each their own.

bit tell your mum not everyone prefers new builds - you want something unique!

Purplebunnie · 04/08/2024 20:12

FinallyMovingHouse · 04/08/2024 18:27

Our solicitor has warned us off a new build of any type as he estimates that 90% of the people he's sorted conveyancing for in the last 20 years who've bought a new build have had problems of some sort, ranging from the legal to the build quality (even with the HSBC or equivalent schemes).

I've also heard this

OP you are better off with an older house. My current house built in 2000 we don't put much on the walls, curtain poles are constantly coming out the walls even with the raw plugs.

I bet you also get a better garden with an older house, well at least a garden and not a pocket handkerchief

HAF1119 · 04/08/2024 20:12

Personally even if I had unlimited funds I wouldn't go new build!

If it felt right to you ignore anyone else's view. Don't let anyone rain on your parade ❤️

Calliopespa · 04/08/2024 20:11

DandyClocks · 04/08/2024 20:01

Re: new builds. They’re not all the same and some of these comments are plain silly.

My new build house is a large detached 5 bed property with a 30ft sunroom and surrounded by fields. Our nearest neighbour is at least half a mile away. We have excellent insulation, triple glazing and a high BER rating. It was designed in Germany and built in Ireland.

Probably not what OP is in the market for though ..,

Enough money will always get quality if wisely spent.,

yikesanotherbooboo · 04/08/2024 20:11

If it was a new build with excellent insulation, solar panels, plenty of storage, green spaces all around , heat pump or similar future proofed heating system in an area that didn't require getting in a car to buy a pint of milk it might be worth it . I live in an area with loads of new build houses many of which have bad reputations for mould, damp, poor build quality etc and you have to build in the fact that they depreciate like new cars. My DS and his young family are house hunting and after initially being dazzled by new builds have stopped looking at them.

Doris86 · 04/08/2024 20:09

DandyClocks · 04/08/2024 20:01

Re: new builds. They’re not all the same and some of these comments are plain silly.

My new build house is a large detached 5 bed property with a 30ft sunroom and surrounded by fields. Our nearest neighbour is at least half a mile away. We have excellent insulation, triple glazing and a high BER rating. It was designed in Germany and built in Ireland.

That’s really not comparable. It’s obviously not a typical new build estate house. It’s a one off high spec house built with no expense spared.

Calliopespa · 04/08/2024 20:08

BeachRide · 04/08/2024 18:19

I hate new builds. Give me something that's been standing for at least 100 years! As long as the electrics/heating/windows are good, I'm there.

That’s what our builder/ handyman says. If ever we whinge about needing to fix something up he says “old buildings little problems; new builds, catastrophic problems.”

blueberryforest · 04/08/2024 20:07

I'll never understand the widespread dislike of new builds on MN. It's not just the dislike, but the vitriolic disdain and the absolute pride in their disgust for anything less than 100 years old. Confused
My new build was new in the early 2000s and has more than doubled in value since we built it. Maybe it doesn't have all the charm of an older property, but it's served us fairly well, and there are pros and cons to every home, regardless of age.

OP, I'd ask why people in your life are recommending a new build, then counter with your own view and finish by saying that you've made your decision and will appreciate if they can try to be happy for you.